April 2004 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

When saving a file with staroffice it is not saving with extension.
by Ravi Kumar April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

Hello Sir, I am working with wine for some time now. I faced with a problem, whenever i am saving a file from Windows version of Staroffice from wine it is saved without extension. I think it is a problem with wine, as staroffice in windows stores files with extensions. I am using wine-20031118 version. Can anybody help me out in this regard. I will also check out to see if it has been solved in later versions. Thanking in advance. regards, ravi.

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Development CDs for Windows
by Steven Pignataro April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

I have a large amount of Windows Development CDs....i am wondering if these would be of any interest to the Development team of Wine.... I think that these would become very usefull at developing for Wine as well as alot of what Windows does is still most of the same. They are Windows NT 4 development kits and much much more. We where going to chuck them at my school...but salaviged them Please let me know Thanks -- Steven Pignataro A+ Partner/ CSO Computer Vision Networks, Inc. Toll Free: 866-897-8896 Phone: 269-979-5582 Fax: 269-288-0418 http://www.computervisions.net/ (c)2002-2004 --

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Re: Developer's path to Windows/*NIX multi-platform?
by greensh＠knology.net April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

> integration. Ideally, we will have a GTK theme and a QT theme > that just calls the respective toolkit's theming code, so a > Wine app will look native both in GNOME and in KDE. I 100% agree > that native integration is paramount, and this is why we will > have it. This sounds very good. Maybe someday. > Since you've mentioned the toolkits, a small comment on that. > Of the two only QT is a serious option for cross-platform development. > It's a good option, but it's not perfect because your application > will not be native in GNOME, Well not to start a KDE vs Gnome debate, but Gnome is way behind KDE development... it doesn't even support Superkaramba (last I checked). Gnome users typically do not prefer KDE or Qt, and part of that stems from that KDE was developed using Qt and it's integration is woven throughout. > you will not be using the native toolkits > in Windows, you have to pay a lot of licensing fees, etc. You only pay licensing if your Qt app is commercial. The free version is perfect for opensource (ie GPL software) hence why it's included in almost all linux distros and you can D/L the same version for winders. Maybe > wxWindows is a better option... It requires too many code changes (at least in Python) for easy cross-compiling. In Qt you simply generate a .pro file for the platform. Shaun > > -- > Dimi. > > > > >

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winapi_stats
by Tom April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

Hi, http://www.winehq.org/site/winapi_stats Is incorrect as it shows Total 19640 100% 100% would be nice but its incorect! Tom

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Re: GDI: Merge the enhmfdrv into one .c file.
by Mike McCormack April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

I object! Being one of the people who sometimes works on EMFs, I don't like this change. A flat namespace in my mind meants that we have one dll's code in each subdirectory in wine/dlls, not that there's no other subdirectories under those. It's a bad precedent to set that each dll can have no further subdirectries. I don't think this change is necessary, and it's going to make the EMF code harder to manage, since the file you've created is very big. Ditto for the MF change. Mike Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: > Merge the entire enhmfdrv into one .c file. > It's not big, and it's the way we usually do > things in wine (e.g. dlls/comctl32/*.c). > Moreover, we get rid of the extra dir in > dlls/gdi/, and gets us closer to a flat > dlls/*/ namespace.

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Re: Developer's path to Windows/*NIX multi-platform?
by greensh＠knology.net April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

At work we write A LOT of 3D graphics code that has requirements to run on winders/linux/macintosh. Qt has definitely proved the way to go (5 years now) with only minor changes required and then it worked on ALL platforms. Java and Python were too slow and required too many code changes for each platform, whereas Qt worked with our existing C/C++ code nicely. BTW, a real good book that's out now is "C++ GUI Programming with Qt 3" by Jasmin Blanchette and Mark Summerfield. It starts very basic from Hello World. It's worth the $30. I'd have to say, so far from what I've seen Wine still has a long way to go before it's ready for production, and reliable use... it's getting there but just not there yet. It's great for porting apps, but too poorly documented for actual development. I mean this forum is about it and you're lucky if you can get answers. But thanks to all the helpful people here, maybe it will grow. Shaun On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:39:14 -0500 (EST), "Dimitrie O. Paun" <dimi(a)intelliware.ca> wrote : > > You ask: > > > I am willing to re-write my best Windows software from scratch, but I > > insist that the result is native or almost on Linux so there are not any > > weird GUI glitches. Do you think Wine is the way to go for me, or am I > > better off writing individual versions and keeping the Windows software > > native and then producing QT or GTK versions for *NIX? I'm at a cross-roads > > here, since I'll be dedicating years of work in whatever direction I take. > > IMO Wine is the perfect tool for you. We know, it's not perfect. > But the best use of your time (and the most efficient) would be to: > 1. Fix any problems in your apps (like reliance on strange Windows > corner cases, use of very obscure features) > 2. Help out fix Wine so that your apps run properly. > > This will not only help us a lot, but it will help you make good > use of your time, and it will allow you to do cross platform > development (even for Windows) from your Linux box. > > Please direct questions to wine-devel(a)winehq.org, where people > can help you out. > > -- > Dimi. > > > > > > >

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abnt2 delete keys problem
by Rafael Ávila de Espíndola April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

I am having the following problem with a abnt2 (Brazilian) keyboard: When the numlock is off both delete keys work correctly. If the numlock is on both key produce a delete plus a comma. The message http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-patches/2002/12/0329.html appears to describe the same problem. But the proposed patch didn't work for me. Attached is a xev log. The numlock is initially on. Them the I press the middle keyboard delete, keypad delete, numlock, middle keyboard delete and keypad delete. Thanks for any help. Rafael Ávila de Espíndola

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MFC app compile problems with AFX
by greensh＠knology.net April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

Since I was told the winlib docs are out of date, I'll try posting this problem. winemaker --interactive seems to have worked and converted the 'winders' source .cpp and .h files and made the backups fine. It only created one file; Makefile When I type 'make' it produced a bunch of afx errors needing only five afx*. h files, so I copied these over from the VS6 directory, ran 'make clean', but hen it needed a ton more, so I copied them all afx*.h and afx*.inl. Then 'make' gets all the way down to the first errors; /usr/local/include/wine/windows/rpcndr.h:383: error: non-local function ` <anonymous struct>* NDRSContextUnmarshall2(void*, void*, long unsigned int, void*, long unsigned int)' uses anonymous type In file included from afxdtctl.h:19, from StdAfx.h:18, from ArbreNiv.cpp:2: afxdisp.h:75: warning: malformed '#pragma pack(push[, id], <n>)' - ignored afxdisp.h:1182: error: friend declaration requires class-key, i.e. `friend struct COleDateTimeSpan' afxdisp.h:1259: error: friend declaration requires class-key, i.e. `friend class COleDateTime' afxdisp.h:1408: warning: #pragma pack (pop) encountered without matching #pragma pack (push, <n>) In file included from afxdisp.h:1413, from afxdtctl.h:19, from StdAfx.h:18, from ArbreNiv.cpp:2: afxole.inl: In constructor `COleVariant::COleVariant(const CHAR*)': afxole.inl:97: error: `vt' undeclared (first use this function) afxole.inl:97: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) afxole.inl: In constructor `COleVariant::COleVariant(unsigned char)': afxole.inl:101: error: `bVal' undeclared (first use this function) afxole.inl: In constructor `COleVariant::COleVariant(const COleCurrency&)': afxole.inl:103: error: `cyVal' undeclared (first use this function) afxole.inl: In constructor `COleVariant::COleVariant(float)': afxole.inl:105: error: `fltVal' undeclared (first use this function) afxole.inl: In constructor `COleVariant::COleVariant(double)': afxole.inl:107: error: `dblVal' undeclared (first use this function) afxole.inl: In constructor `COleVariant::COleVariant(const COleDateTime&)': afxole.inl:109: error: `date' undeclared (first use this function) afxole.inl: In member function `DWORD COleSafeArray::GetDim()': afxole.inl:283: error: `parray' undeclared (first use this function) Can anyone help? Any ideas for me to try? I can run the winders executable with wine, but it's very buggy and will crash easily, so I wanted to use winelib. Shaun

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ANNOUNCE: CVS to arch gateway
by Mike Hearn April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

Hi everybody, I'm pleased to announce the public availability of a gateway from WineHQ CVS to the GNU arch version control system. It marks the beginning of an experiment not just in new forms of source control, but in new ways for the Wine project to be organized and function. Nobody knows if it will catch on, but a few of us (me, dimi and alexandre) have been discussing trying out arch for some time. Carpe dium! ==================================================================== For those who already know arch, here are the details: archive coordinates: http://navi.cx/mike/wine/archive mike(a)winehq.org--wine/wine--mainline--0.9 It is synchronised with CVS on the hour, every hour and a cacherev is generated once a week. There are a couple of useful scripts in the root directory, branch and merge which are described in the README.ARCH file. It is mirrored here: http://mirrors.sourcecontrol.net/mike(a)winehq.org--wine/ For your convenience, and for people who have never used arch before, here is an adapted form of the README file. It's available in pseudo-HTML here: http://navi.cx/~mike/wine/ ===================================================================== README.ARCH Mike Hearn <mike(a)navi.cx> GNU arch is a distributed source control system. Unlike CVS, arch trees can be branched and branched again with no write access to the original archive. It has a variety of other interesting features - for instance, it uses atomic commits and can operate using a variety of network protocols. For more information see http://wiki.gnuarch.org The rest of this readme is going to take the form of a tutorial on how to use arch with Wine. We'll start with the really basic tasks that even non-developers may wish to use, and work up to advanced usage (branching and merging). It will not answer every question you have, for that use the wine-devel mailing list for discussion :) * Tracking Wine development --------------------------- You might not be reading this file from an actual arch project tree, so let's start with how to get a copy of the gateway tree. First of all you need to install "tla", the reference implementation of arch. You can get it from the gnuarch.org website, but a simpler way is to use the prebuilt binary available here: http://www.navi.cx/~mike/wine/tla Download, chmod +x, copy to /usr/local/bin and you're set. The binary should work on any Linux distro. Yes, it's large, the arch build system contains local copies of various libraries. Now it's installed, run the following command: tla register-archive http://www.navi.cx/~mike/wine/archive/ Once it's registered succesfully (you get a message when that happens), you can run the following command to check out the tree: tla get mike(a)winehq.org--wine/wine--mainline--0.9 winehq This will place a copy of the gateway tree into the winehq/ directory. "winehq" is a good name to use, because you may later wish to download other branches or even make your own, but there will only ever be one WineHQ tree - the one controlled by Alexandre Julliard. Yes, I know mike(a)winehq.org isn't a valid email address, it doesn't matter, the email is only for namespacing and identification reasons :) The checkout will take a long time even on a fast link: the Wine sources are 10mb. Once downloaded, updating the tree is easy: tla update So, now you have an arch project tree, what can you do? Arch has a lot of interesting commands, try "tla changelog | less" and "tla missing -s". Have fun! * Simple development ==================== The easiest way to use arch for development is the same way we use CVS: by making changes in a tree, generating a diff from those changes, then emailing in the patch. Let's see how that works. First of all, we make a change to the tree. Then we use: tla changes --diffs to get a patch. In fact, this will generate a lot of extra stuff that you don't really need - feel free to remove it, but it's not required; patch can strip out garbage from patches automatically. You can get diffs for individual files with "tla file-diffs". Be warned! These commands work against the last revision you updated to, they do *not* work against the latest version in the remote archive like CVS does. So you probably want to update first. However, unlike people just tracking the tree, you DO NOT want to use update! What update does, roughly speaking, is reverse changes made to the tree, apply the missing patches in turn, then reapply the changes. If there are any conflicts they appear in patch style .rej and .orig files. There is a better way. Arch has a very interesting and powerful command called "star-merge". Star-merge allows you to merge your tree with another tree (subject to certain rules), in a Just Works(tm) fashion. It will deal with repeated merges, and it works if the person you are merging from previously merged with you. To make this simpler, I've written a script that figures out what you branched from (if anything), and then merges from it. In effect, this is like "cvs update". ./merge This operation can be quite slow (because it involves constructing multiple trees and comparing etc), but it is generic and will work both with the gateway tree and branches - and it gives 3-way merge inline conflict markers too. If you want to do it faster, and you don't mind having patch style .rej files generated in the case of conflicts, try: tla replay which simply downloads and applies each patch in turn. "tla update" does work too, why not try them all to see which you prefer? * More advanced development =========================== So, here comes the interesting part. Now we've covered the basics, it's time to find out how to make our own branches and commit to them. You need to do a bit of setup. Firstly, you need to tell arch who you are: tla my-id 'Mike Hearn <mike(a)navi.cx>' You have to use an ID of this form, arch won't accept others. Now you need to create your own archive. An archive is a rough equivalent of a CVS repository with one key, fundamental difference: an archive is a personal thing which can contain trees from many different projects. Typically a person has only one archive, though there's nothing to stop you having more. Archives are just directories and files, no special server software is required to run one. You just need some web space. The basic workflow with arch goes something like this: 1) Write patch 2) Commit to branch 3) Upload to a mirror of your archive Your actual archive is usually kept locally, which means you can work and commit offline. You then mirror the archive on a remote machine so others can access it. If people want to work on your tree, they branch it, set up their own archive and then you pull from that. In other words, only you have write access to your own archive. So, you need to create a directory to hold your archive, like this: tla make-archive mike(a)navi.cx--2004 ~/Code/Arch/2004 tla my-default-archive mike(a)navi.cx--2004 The named directory should not exist, but its parents should. An archive name must have the form of an email address followed by two dashes followed by a name. I've named it after the year of creation which is pretty common, but it can be called anything. Now, to speed things up, you probably want to create a revision library. This is basically a cache (using hard links to be space efficient) of revisions. You probably want it. Make one like this: mkdir ~/Code/Arch/RevLib tla my-revision-library ~/Code/Arch/RevLib tla library-config --sparse --greedy ~/Code/Arch/RevLib OK. Now you just need some web space. Arch can write to web space using ftp, sftp (ssh), or WebDAV. You probably want sftp. If you don't have any web space you can use talk to me and I'll put you in touch with people who can give you some space specifically for hosting archive mirrors. For now, don't bother with a remote mirror. Just play with a local copy, that way you can delete things if you make a mistake (you can delete a branch with rm -rf inside the archive, nothing will break). Let's say you wish to branch the WineHQ tree, and start work on the winecfg program. The simplest way to do this is to create a directory somewhere that you will keep all your wine trees in. I use /source/wine/arch. Then do this: tla get mike(a)winehq.org--wine/wine--mainline--0.9 winehq cd winehq ./branch winecfg The branch script is in the root of the gateway tree, and is written by me. It's designed to let you rapidly branch a given Wine tree. It works by "tagging" the new tree in arch, then duplicating the current tree using hard links before finally forcing the duplicate tree to the new branch. WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! If you use the branch script you MUST use an editor that breaks hard links. emacs does by default, vim does if you :set bkc=no (though be warned, this will interfere with some programs that invoke vim like crontab -e). zile does not. If you want to use an editor that does not break hard links you must remove the -l option from cp in the branch script so a real duplicate is made. This uses more disk space and is slower to copy, but is safer. The result is a new directory called winecfg/ created as a sibling of the current directory. You can now commit to this tree however often you like. Running merge will update the branch from the tree you branched from (in this example, the gateway tree). You can branch from that tree again, and so on. Other people can branch from your tree in the same way! Feeling giddy with power yet? No? Good. Remember that patches which aren't in the mainline tree aren't reaching 99.9% of the users - being able to branch is useful but don't use it as an excuse to not get patches upstreamed! The new branch is put in the default archive and the name is derived from the current, for instance running branch in mike(a)winehq.org--wine/wine--mainline--0.9 with the parameter "winecfg" produces a branch with the name mike(a)navi.cx--2004/wine--winecfg--0.9 Now you need to publish a mirror: tla make-archive --mirror mike(a)navi.cx--2004 sftp://navi.cx/home/mike/public_html/archive and update it when you have done some commits tla archive-mirror which actually uploads the changes. If you are always connected, you can run the first make-archive command (back when you created your archive) with a remote location straight away, but doing it locally then mirroring is more common. Finally, tell people the URL of your archive so they can register it and grab your tree. That's it! Have fun! If you have any questions ask them on the wine-devel mailing list.

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Ping: Gerald Pfeifer
by Dimitrie O. Paun April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

Hi Gerald, It seems nobody can send you email because: Recipient: <pfeifer(a)dbai.tuwien.ac.at> Reason: Service unavailable; Client host [fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com] blocked using abuse.rfc-ignorant.org; Not supporting abuse(a)domain; See http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/block.html Nice, but that make the email account a bit useless, no? :) Anyway, I had a small question for you: what version of FreeBSD are you building Wine for? -- Dimi.

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