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Re:[wined3d] D3DXCreateFont
by Louis. Lenders Dec. 26, 2005

Dec. 26, 2005

I had the same problem. Problem is they crash when version is set to win2000. The default windows version used to be win98 up to a few months ago, if you switch back to win98, the bug you describe is absent. Louis I've been using some dx9 tutorial/demo apps that use the d3dx9.dll. I got this dll off the net somewhere (d3dx9_27.dll to be exact). This is just a utility library that has some helper functions for D3D apps, like font rendering etc. Oliver has mentioned that he uses some of the same apps for testing wined3d, which is why I picked them (http://www.codesampler.com/dx9src.htm) However, about half of them call D3DXCreateFont, which always fails on my system. As such, the return font object is null and so the demo crashes shortly afterwards when it tries to call a member function through the null object. All of these demos just try to load the "Arial" font, which seems to be registered. I'm just curious how Oliver, and maybe others, are running these demos if they always crash at startup. The demos do pop up a message box like "D3DXCreateFont: failed!!!" or something like that, and after you click the "OK" button, the app continues anyways, and then crashes soon after. If anyone knows how to get around this font thing I'd very much like to know! Cheers, Aric ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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LockWindowUpdate status?
by Dan Kegel Dec. 26, 2005

Dec. 26, 2005

The last two ISVs I've talked with both had unpleasant flashing while updating rich text boxes. Both call LockWindowUpdate, and one ISV mentioned that he had to do that on Windows to prevent flashing. Poking around a bit, it seems Mike Hearn wrote at patch for this: http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-patches/2004/04/0304.html but it's not yet been applied: http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2004/07/0483.html What's its current status? Perhaps the time has come. Thanks, Dan -- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv

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Computer down
by Dustin Navea Dec. 26, 2005

Dec. 26, 2005

Sorry to anyone that was working with me on bugs, any anyone that has written to me in the past few days. I got a bigger hdd, and was xferring data from my windows box onto it, then when I went to put my linux hdd into what was formerly my windows box, it wouldnt boot. Looks to be a bad mobo, so I am stuck with only a win box again temporarily. :-( Tom

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Re: [Bug 4146] first run usability
by wino＠piments.com Dec. 26, 2005

Dec. 26, 2005

Does someone want to reign in this fuck-wit before she pisses of the whole community? How can this be a dupe of a meta bug ?! The meta is supposed to regroup all such minor bugs. That's why it was created. You say you want feedback, suggestions and bug reports yet this is what happens to constructive input. Open source is about "if it does not do what you want , help fix it". This comment indicates that once again she has not even read the fucking bug before dismissing it . May be you need to make ppl pass an english comprehension test before letting them edit bug reports. Thanks fuck this nerd gets off on ranting on mailing lists, in real life she could do damage , well probably not actually, that's what it's all about. Make of it what you like, I'm tired of pissing into the wind. See you all in 10 years time for 1.0 Best of luck to the majority who have put in all the hard work in creating a potencially excellent tool and dont think they're god's gift because of it. I'm currently helping 5 first time user get used to Linux, my time will be better spent there. Special thanks to Rob for the help he has given me. On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:13:16 +0100, Wine Bugs <wine-bugs(a)winehq.org> wrote: > http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4146 > > > vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED > Resolution| |DUPLICATE > > > > > ------- Additional Comments From vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com 2005-25-12 10:13 > ------- > This is all belongs in the manual. There were numerous discussions about > this on > wine-devel. Wine is not Windows and we do not do things in windows ways. > It's ap > to packagers to create any link on the desktop or menu. > And Wine should not associate itself with *.exe files - again up to > packagers. > > *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 75 *** >

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Building bridges by helping small ISVs
by Dan Kegel Dec. 25, 2005

Dec. 25, 2005

It's frustrating that large software vendors (Adobe, Intuit, Macromedia, IBM) aren't paying much attention to Wine, even though Wine's the quickest way for them to reach the Linux desktop market. I've been trying to figure out why they're holding back. After talking with a few large vendors and the folks working on the Munich migration project, I got the distinct feeling that Wine simply doesn't have a good reputation yet. To cut through this negative fog, we need more evidence that software vendors can succeed in the Linux market using Wine. So, how do we get that, if the large vendors won't budge? One way would be to focus on the other end of the spectrum: one-person software companies. There are so many of these that Wine already supports some of them reasonably well. I'd like to see the Wine community cultivate relationships with these folks, and coax a few of them to support and promote their apps on Linux using Wine. This will mean a lot of hand-holding on our part, helping them test their apps and file and fix Wine bugs they expose. What's in it for us? Lots of things: a) the micro-ISVs we help will be a great source of bug reports and QA b) some of them will turn into evangelists c) their success will attract the larger ISVs that we're having trouble with (e.g. Intuit, Macromedia, Adobe) who *will* be able to contribute bugfixes (by hiring contractors) d) they will increase the pool of apps available for desktop linux So, what am I doing about this? Well, I'm walking through the lists of successful micro-isvs, trying out their apps, filing bugs and helping resolve them, adding AppDB entries, exchanging emails with micro-isvs that have expressed an interest in working with Wine, and updating my Wine for Windows ISVs page, http://kegel.com/wine/isv Like everything else associated with Wine, there's enough here to keep dozens of people like me busy. I hope I can inspire more folks to follow my example. If you're interested, please jump in! And do consider taking part in my little isv mailing list experiment, http://groups.google.com/group/wine-isv ; I'm going to try to use it as the place where I give ISVs special hand-holding. - Dan --

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Regression in MSI
by Sergei Rozhkov Dec. 24, 2005

Dec. 24, 2005

I think, I found a regression in msi (0.9.3 -> 0.9.4). When I launch Syberia's setup.exe there was 87: "fixme:ole:ITypeInfo_fnRelease destroy child objects", displayed InstallShield Wizard with empty progress bar and stuck. Than I tryed morrowind - again 87: "fixme:ole:ITypeInfo_fnRelease destroy child objects", displayed InstallShield Wizard with two filled sells in progress bar and stuck with that: err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {be6115a1-7de5-48dc-ad2a-25060e00fce2}, failing with error 0x80004002 err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002 err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {be6115a1-7de5-48dc-ad2a-25060e00fce2}, failing with error 0x80004002 err:ole:ClientIdentity_QueryMultipleInterfaces IRemUnknown_RemQueryInterface failed with error 0x80004002 Than I tryed Evil Islands - exactly the same. All this apps installed in previous versions. --- Sorry For My English and if I posted in wrong place || wrong time, or if I'm wrong. Merry Christmas!

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Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page
by Michael Jung Dec. 24, 2005

Dec. 24, 2005

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 23:23, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Thus removing it from the official download page is a wise choice. I'm we > will still get number of users on wine-users and #winehq with winetools > related problems. But at least we will stop spread of "bad habits". I did'nt use winetools for quite a while now, but it was a great tool to get a newbie up and running with wine back then. If it hurts us more than it helps today, then we should take some action. But could we perhaps get in contact with Joachim von Thadden before we remove the link? He has put a lot of effort in winetools and he's a great wine advocate (He wrote a multi page technical article on wine for c't magazine a few months ago, which is one of the big computer publications here in germany. This article was based on winetools, but also did a lot of advertising for CodeWeavers and Wine in general). In my opinion he deserves some respect from our part. We should give him a chance to fix the problems with winetools before we silently remove the link. Bye, -- Michael Jung mjung(a)iss.tu-darmstadt.de

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Accidentally fixed a bug :-)
by Dan Kegel Dec. 24, 2005

Dec. 24, 2005

I've been helping a couple small ISVs test their apps and file bugs lately. To my surprise, one of the bugs (ChooseColor() not responding to keystrokes, http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4125) was easy enough to fix without any real knowledge of the code, so I posted a patch that seems to fix it (http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2005-December/023048.html) It was a pleasant surprise to run into something so easy to fix. Guess I should try it more often! - Dan -- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv

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Success: The Journal runs mostly great with 0.9.4...
by Dan Kegel Dec. 24, 2005

Dec. 24, 2005

While surfing, I ran into a "micro-ISV support blog", http://safarisoftware.typepad.com/mlp_developer_news dedicated to the very small developer. It happened to profile a guy who wrote a little notetaking application in Delphi years back just to learn the language, and who was surprised to find he could make a living selling it. It's called "The Journal", and a free demo is available from http://www.davidrm.com/download/jnl4setup.exe It seems to install and run rather well under wine-0.9.4 except for some richtext glitches, a redraw problem (just flip around between the main mode tabs of the app and watch the legend on the right below the toolbar - it gets pretty corrupt), and a bit of sluggishness. Plus, like many other apps I've tested lately, it constantly spews fixme:win:LockWindowUpdate (0x2003e), partial stub! fixme:win:LockWindowUpdate ((nil)), partial stub! I wrote up the redraw problem as http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4145 That's the only problem bad enough to kill a demo of the app so far. -- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv

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[wined3d] D3DXCreateFont
by Aric Cyr Dec. 24, 2005

Dec. 24, 2005

I've been using some dx9 tutorial/demo apps that use the d3dx9.dll. I got this dll off the net somewhere (d3dx9_27.dll to be exact). This is just a utility library that has some helper functions for D3D apps, like font rendering etc. Oliver has mentioned that he uses some of the same apps for testing wined3d, which is why I picked them (http://www.codesampler.com/dx9src.htm) However, about half of them call D3DXCreateFont, which always fails on my system. As such, the return font object is null and so the demo crashes shortly afterwards when it tries to call a member function through the null object. All of these demos just try to load the "Arial" font, which seems to be registered. I'm just curious how Oliver, and maybe others, are running these demos if they always crash at startup. The demos do pop up a message box like "D3DXCreateFont: failed!!!" or something like that, and after you click the "OK" button, the app continues anyways, and then crashes soon after. If anyone knows how to get around this font thing I'd very much like to know! Cheers, Aric

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