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GDI question
by Hetz Ben Hamo Feb. 4, 2003

Feb. 4, 2003

Hi, I'm testing some apps installation with either the free WineHQ, WineX, Crossover Office, and many times I see buttons and other GUI related stuff in the wrong size or place, and I understand it's a GDI related issue, so here's 3 questions.. 1. Is the GDI implementation is so bad that it needs hacking per app to make it look ok? 2. Is there a way to take GDI parts from native WIndows and use it in Wine? 3. Funding - can any company (transgaming, CodeWeavers, others) can estimate the cost of rewriting a better (and faster - the speed of Wine graphics today is something in magnitude of 486 PC!) GDI? Thanks, Hetz

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Re: LISTVIEW_SetItemCount take 4
by Duane Clark Feb. 4, 2003

Feb. 4, 2003

Duane Clark wrote: > Sigh.. I guess I really should have compiled that previous version > before sending it in. Sorry for the excessive traffic. So here it is > fixing compiler warnings, with the missing return added in, and with the > changelog. Hopefully this will be the last time. > Dimi, Dan and I have been looking into this further. This is not the right fix, so please do not apply.

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Windows API database / map
by Dave Miller Feb. 4, 2003

Feb. 4, 2003

I've begun cross referencing the windows dlls in a 'map' format as Dan Kegel suggested. I'm not finished yet because it seems when I sort alphabetically I am sorting the entire path. Sample output is here: http://home.ptd.net/~compsol/winxp_sample_map.html Be aware though this HTML is around 900K. If anyone has comments or suggestions on how to improve it or the next logical step please let me know.

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Re: Using the real Windows kernel
by Mike Hearn Feb. 4, 2003

Feb. 4, 2003

I suggest you read the GNU manifesto. The point of Wine and Linux is that it's a philosophically free replacement for the current status quo - simply using Microsoft code changes nothing except the way the windows look, which isn't really the point. thanks -mike On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 21:04, David Filskov wrote: > I'm not a programmer and I know this is not your goal... but: > > Woulden't it help if Windows users just copied the kernel from their Windows installation and used this for an alternative desktop/system? - I mean the Windows NT kernel seems to work alright, but all the things Microsoft put on top of it slows it down and locks people away from settings and confuses them etc... if you had people use the real kernel instead (without offering it online of course) Windows users could use YOUR desktop/GUI implementation but still use all the existing drivers and apps... and have faster and more configurable computer using your alternative desktop. > > I know a lot of Windows users who would want such an alternative... just a thought... > > --David Filskov > Denmark > -- Mike Hearn <m.hearn(a)signal.qinetiq.com> QinetiQ - Malvern Technology Center

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RE: Using the real Windows kernel
by Mathew McBride Feb. 4, 2003

Feb. 4, 2003

Then how can we figure out how to get a desktop shell working etc? I think the ReactOS project is doing something simular (creating a NT-compatible kernel and I belive they are trying to implement DLL sharing between the two projects) -----Original Message----- From: wine-devel-admin(a)winehq.com [mailto:wine-devel-admin(a)winehq.com] On Behalf Of David Filskov Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2003 8:05 AM To: wine-devel(a)winehq.com Subject: Using the real Windows kernel I'm not a programmer and I know this is not your goal... but: Woulden't it help if Windows users just copied the kernel from their Windows installation and used this for an alternative desktop/system? - I mean the Windows NT kernel seems to work alright, but all the things Microsoft put on top of it slows it down and locks people away from settings and confuses them etc... if you had people use the real kernel instead (without offering it online of course) Windows users could use YOUR desktop/GUI implementation but still use all the existing drivers and apps... and have faster and more configurable computer using your alternative desktop. I know a lot of Windows users who would want such an alternative... just a thought... --David Filskov Denmark

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Re: How to remount CDROM during program execution
by r.young＠irl.cri.nz Feb. 4, 2003

Feb. 4, 2003

Thanks for your three (very different) replies. >From Scott's comments I take it that the mount/unmount of file systems is such a basic part of *nix that it might take some lateral thinking to circumvent it. As for Sylvain's suggestion, I set up automounting this evening, but unfortunately this did not solve my problem: the same processes attached to /dev/cdrom were still open (5 belonging to wine and 1 to wineserver), and <eject> gave a "device busy" response. Tony Lambregts: >What version of Wine are you useing. Disk changing should not be a >problem under the latest releases of Wine. I'm not exactly sure. As you guessed I'm using Transgamings current winex installation (subscription version). >WineX is a different flavor of Wine, So it may still have this problem. In >other words if you have this problem when useing Wine then you should >report it to http://bugs.winehw.org . Since you have this problem under >WineX I guess you should be contacting Transgaming. I guess, except that's where I first posted this message and got no satisfactory response. Perhaps I ought to approach them more directly as you suggest. >I regularly use Riven which >is a five disk set. In order to play the game I have to change disks >when I move from one island to the next. I do recall that about a year >ago that there was a problem in that Wine would not close off files so >that umount would not work. There is one possible significant difference between installation of a program and changing disks in the course of a game as you describe: in the first case wine is running setup.exe which is on the CD, and hence wine has processes open which access the CD drive. In your case wine is running the game program which has been transferred to the hard disk. It is now Riven which accesses the CD drive and (conceivably) when the time comes to change the CD, it will first close down all processes which use the drive. Maybe. Thanks for your comments. I would welcome further discussion if anybody cares to join in. Roger Young r.young(a)irl.cri.nz

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Listbox: LBS_NOSEL needs improvement?
by Ferenc Wagner Feb. 3, 2003

Feb. 3, 2003

Hello! In listbox.c one can find the following comment: * Probably needs improvement: * - LBS_NOSEL Does anybody know what this means? What is missing? I'm struggling with a listbox which has this attribute, and still it is possible to select from it -- under Windows. Can LBS_OWNERDRAWFIXED interfere with this? By the way, under Wine the WS_VISIBLE and WS_VSCROLL style options are missing on this listbox. However, it has a vertical scrollbar, and visible. :) Is this normal? (I found no documentation for WS_VISIBLE.) Thanks: Feri.

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Large number of patches
by Warren_Baird＠cimmetry.com Feb. 3, 2003

Feb. 3, 2003

We've been putting a fair bit of work into wine over the last 6-8 months, and we've only recently had time to sit back and make patches- so sometime in the next couple of days I should have about 30 patches to submit. Most of them under 100 lines, but a few are over 200 lines and the biggest is about 600 lines long. Some of them are solaris/big-endian specific, but the majority of them are not. I'll have the patches as separate patch files with ChangeLog entries and descriptions - the question is whether I should submit them to wine-patches as 30 separate email messages or as a single message with 30 attachements... Anyone have a strong preference on this? Anything else special I should do? Warren

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Re: Wineconf 2003
by Shachar Shemesh Feb. 3, 2003

Feb. 3, 2003

Jeremy White wrote: >For where, I would think it's time to hold it in Europe. > Hear hear. I doubt I'll be able to afford a plane ticket to the U.S. at this stage of my life (turning to the independant life and all). Shachar

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Scrollbars misplaced in several apps
by Dan Kegel Feb. 3, 2003

Feb. 3, 2003

Several apps I've tried (including my company's app) have scrollbars in the wrong place, inset in the window by one scrollbar width. Duane Clark has seen this, too, and said "... the scrollbars being in the wrong position in the richtext window? I am pretty sure that is a richtext bug. I see it in every application that uses richtext. For example, run notepad and then resize the window. " (I tried running notepad, and couldn't reproduce it myself, so maybe I'm confused.) One app that shows the problem is Resource Hunter (free trial download at http://www.boilsoft.com/rchunter.html) Just start it, and look at the position of the scrollbars in the lower left pane. Is this a well-known problem? I'd like to try fixing it if nobody has a patch yet. Hints welcome. - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

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