April 2005 - WineConf - list.winehq.org

Anyone travelling from the Netherlands
by Paul van Schayck April 29, 2005

April 29, 2005

Hey, Is there anyone travelling from the Netherlands by car or train? We might be able to arrange something to travel together. Thanks, Paul

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Mobile number
by Michael Stefaniuc April 28, 2005

April 28, 2005

Hello guys, here is my mobile number in case you get lost and need to contact somebody local. +49 173 6571450 I'll be on friday at the conference place so if somebody wants to show up we/i will be there. bye michael -- Michael Stefaniuc Tel.: +49-711-96437-199 Sr. Network Engineer Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH Email: mstefani(a)redhat.com Hauptstaetterstr. 58 http://www.redhat.de/ D-70178 Stuttgart

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Program for Friday afternoon :-)
by Lionel Ulmer April 28, 2005

April 28, 2005

'lo all, As I arrive beginning of the afternoon on the Friday (actually, I should be at 1 PM at the train station), who would be there to do something on the afternoon (like visiting Stuttgart or stuff like that) ? I should only have a backpack so I could leave directly from the station and only go to the hotel on the evening to check-in and to leave for the evening meal. Lionel -- Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/

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Planning meals for Wineconf
by Jeremy White April 27, 2005

April 27, 2005

Folks, I worry that we have left this a little bit too late, and that we have not been giving Herr Gemkow enough support. At this point, I understand that we have the following plans: 1. Coffee to be provided by the University, as they have good high powered coffee makers. 2. Rolls of some sort to be bought and brought in separately by local volunteers, whether that's Michael, Andi, or Brian is not yet clear. The thinking is that most folks will have breakfast at their hotel, so the rolls/donuts are a 'nice to have', not a 'have to have'. 3. Lunch is still open. I think if we just ordered 30 pizzas delivered along with some soda that would suffice. I don't know if there are more elaborate plans than that, or if it would be okay for us to have pizza in the meeting rooms. 4. Dinner Saturday I think we're nearly done on; I understand that Hans-Ulrich is making a reservation for us on Saturday. Is that about right? Am I way behind the curve? It seems to me that if we could have someone to volunteer to take care of rolls (there are two days, so maybe two volunteers), and if someone could volunteer to figure out lunch, that we would maybe have this covered. As far as how this all gets paid for, I think we're still figuring out who is willing to sponsor what events; CodeWeavers will at the least cover any otherwise unclaimed expenses, so folks should certainly feel comfortable scheduling pizza deliveries knowing that someone will step up to pay for it. (I was planning on picking up dinner on Saturday; if all other expenses get to be too much, I'm going to assume no one will mind going dutch on Saturday; we're looking at ~20-25 EUR/person). Thoughts? Comments? Cheers, Jer

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Re: let the car pool coordinations begin
by Ivan Leo Puoti April 26, 2005

April 26, 2005

I'll be arriving at Hahn Frankfurt airport on the 28th, around 10:25. I'll get Stuttgart with a bus/train combination, and if I get all the connections right I should be at the hotel by 14:30. Naturally if you're driving along my same route do let me know and we can meet somewhere. Ivan.

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let the car pool coordinations begin
by Shachar Shemesh April 26, 2005

April 26, 2005

I'll be arriving at Stuttgart on Friday at 11:50, on flight AF1708. I'll be leaving on Monday at 08:30 (early wakeup for me). I won't have a car, but if other people arrive more or less the same time, we can share a taxi/train. I'll be staying at the Deusche Telekom. If anyone is coming on similar times, please let me know. On a different thread, I'm considering buying a Mac mini while there. Can anyone local let me know where a nearby computer store might be that is likely to carry Macs? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Systems Consulting http://www.lingnu.com/

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Need a ride from Frankurt Airport to Stuttgart on Friday?
by Michael Jung April 26, 2005

April 26, 2005

Hi, I'm going to drive from Darmstadt, which is about 10 miles from Frankfurt airport, to Stuttgart on Friday afternoon and back on Sunday evening. If anybody flies in to Frankfurt airport at about this time, I would be happy to offer a ride. Bye, -- Michael Jung mjung(a)iss.tu-darmstadt.de

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Audio streaming
by Paul van Schayck April 26, 2005

April 26, 2005

Hey, I assumed there was an audio shoutcast for wineconf this year until I noticed this morning I had been reading the archives of 2004. I know, now this might be a bit too late to arrange. But let's try. I have the experience in setting up an audio stream and the general knowledge about audio. But I do not have much portable equipment I can take with me at wineconf. I would mainly be needing a laptop with a _proper_ soundcard and a server doing the actual streaming. What kind of sound system does the conference room have? Do we know specifics? If there is nothing available I can arrange some equipment. If there is equipment available our biggest problem will be getting the signal at the poor 3,5mm jack line-in connections of the laptop. The laptop would need a distro (duh) with basically just ALSA. And a soundcard that can do hardware mixing (multiple local playback streams at once). You can have nice sound at 56kbit/s mp3. So somewhere around a 5mbit connection should be enough for 100 listeners at the stream server (you don't want to do that on the laptop, connections eat memory). What do you all think? Paul

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Re: Audio streaming
by Ivan Leo Puoti April 25, 2005

April 25, 2005

> Personally, I'd prefer a non-streaming solution. I think we'll make anything we record available for download anyway, and if we can also stream it live, so much the better. We'll just get to wineconf with the equipment we have and see what we can get together. Ivan.

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The price of admission to Wineconf
by Jeremy White April 25, 2005

April 25, 2005

Hi Folks, Say, we've been very fortunate; WRS, CodeWeavers, and Lingnu have all offered cash assistance for Wineconf, and many, many people are also providing volunteer services. This means that there will be no fees beyond your own travel and hotel costs, and you may even get a free lunch or two out of the deal. But here's the catch: we need a sizable fraction of attendees to stay through to the bitter end, and help with the cleanup. The University of Stuttgart is generously going to let us use their space all weekend; but it needs to be pristine by 8:00 am on Monday. So, I would like everyone to make a mental note that when we officially adjourn on Sunday, that you should stick around and help make sure everything is clean and orderly. Thanks! Jer

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Live streaming
by Ivan Leo Puoti April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

Hello guys, I'll be bringing a webcam to wineconf, and a mic, the picture won't be very good but people should be able to follow what's going on. We'll be using a laptop for the stream, even if we don't know who's one it will be yet, anyway if you have experience in doing this sort of stuff your help would be appreciated. Ivan.

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wineconf vacation planning
by Andreas Mohr April 23, 2005

April 23, 2005

Hello all, since I'm in Karlsruhe, with my parents living close to Stuttgart university, I want to take several days off for wine conference preparations (and possibly cleanup). Could someone give me a rough figure of when I should take some days off and how many? For now I'm thinking of 28. (Thu), 29. (Fri) and possibly 02. (Mon). Any thoughts on what should be prepared for wineconf? Thanks, Andreas Mohr

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Last call for PGP key signing party
by Shachar Shemesh April 22, 2005

April 22, 2005

Hi all, This is your last chance to get your very own PGP key signed by your community. So far, we have 6.5 participants (hoping to get it to 7 by tomorrow). This means 7 brand new signatures on your PGP key. Read the previous announcement (http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/04/0057.html and http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/04/0084.html) for details on what you need to do. New submissions should be possible to get right up to the party itself, assuming I can get our hosts to lend me the use of a printer (Will you?). Thanks, Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html

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Local organisation - ideas/requirements/volunteers needed
by Ulrich Gemkow April 6, 2005

April 6, 2005

Hello, we are starting the local organisation of wineconf in Stuttgart now and I propose to form a (small) local organisation group consisting of people with a good feeling for the requirements of the conference. It would be very helpful if especially some people from the region of Stuttgart would join this group and contribute their ideas. Questions are i.e. - suitability of the rooms reserved (there are some alternatives) - which kind of food is wanted - other support (technical and non-technical) - (other questions/ideas you may have) Would people from this list who are willing to join this group please send me a private E-Mail? I propose that members of the group living nearby Stuttgart will meet at the university to check the environment and will send an invitation for such a meeting. Thank you in advance and greetings Ulrich Gemkow -- |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Ulrich Gemkow |----- | Universität Stuttgart | Institut für Kommunikationsnetze und Rechnersysteme (IKR) | (bisher: Nachrichtenvermittlung und Datenverarbeitung (IND)) |----- | University of Stuttgart | Institute of Communication Networks and Computer Engineering (IKR) |----- | Pfaffenwaldring 47, D 70569 Stuttgart, Germany | mailto:gemkow(a)ikr.uni-stuttgart.de http://www.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de |-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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PGP signing party
by Shachar Shemesh April 5, 2005

April 5, 2005

Last year's raving success (I exchanged keys with Marcus) gives appetite for more. So, if you always wanted to have a PGP key that most of the free software will know [1]. If you wanted to be able to carry out encrypted secure conversations online. Or if you just want a chance to brag about what well connected key you have [2]. We will (try) to hold a PGP key signing party at wineconf this year. In order to participate, it is positively absolutely necessary that you: 1. Have a PGP key. You can generate one for yourself using gpg. 2. Send the PGP key finger print to me AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE THE CONFERENCE. Any later then that, and it is not certain that we'll manage to get your key on the printed piece of paper that is necessary for carrying out the party. 3. Bring a copy you can trust to wineconf, to make sure other people are really signing your key (i.e. - that I'm not pulling anybody's leg). 4. Bring an identifying ID to wineconf. Two is preferable. Passport or a driver license in a language people can read. If you can only bring one, a passport is definitely preferable. The full details of what a key signing party is, why are the procedures as they are, and what's so important about *not* signing the keys with your laptop at the party can be found at http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html Note: No aliases on PGP keys. If your PGP key says "lord master of compiler optimization", then your passport had better say the same or no one will be able to sign your key. Shachar [1] My key is signed by RMS himself (http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xCDBDBCE2) This means that any key that I sign is just two keys away from the very inventor of free software. [2] See [1] -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html

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The WineConf RSVP form causes errors ...
by Richard Sharpe April 5, 2005

April 5, 2005

Hi, This is all I got: ERROR: DB File /tmp/rsvp.txt NOT Found! Regards ----- Richard Sharpe, rsharpe[at]richardsharpe.com, rsharpe[at]samba.org, sharpe[at]ethereal.com, http://www.richardsharpe.com

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WineConf Agenda
by Brian Vincent April 4, 2005

April 4, 2005

I'm going to start this off with a huge apology - there's a very real chance I've asked someone to do a presentation and it's not on this list. If so, you need to email me to remind me. If you were definitely planning on presenting something because I emailed you, let me know - there's lots of space available. I know this only affects 2 or 3 people, but I tossed around a few ideas and didn't want to leave any loose ends. (Any of those items would make nice topics.) This is the initial agenda for WineConf. I hope to add a few more items, but Jeremy suggested I pull the trigger and announce it. I agree - there's enough here to fill two days and leave a lot of time for people to get together in small groups. Only the first two items are in any formal order: Alexandre - Keynote (He said he's reusing last year's slides.) Dimi - to do list / status update Steven Edwards and the ReactOS crew Charles W Stevenson - Winelib / Winelib porting / and a commercial perspective Andrew Barlett / Samba team? - Samba 4, authentication, lots of intelligent ideas Juan Lang - Wine's RPC + Samba or something like that :) Jeremy White - CXTest Jason Edmeades - DirectX 9 / wined3d / eye candy I think a full agenda would be about 11 items. If you would like to present something let me know - there's definitely space available. If you've been wondering, "There's a neat project I'd like to do if I could only get a few more people interested", well, this is the perfect time to bring it up. If there's something strategic to Wine development, this is a great time to discuss it. For example, we've had mixed feelings regarding revision control and its been suggested to bring it up as a topic. Would anyone find it useful to discuss subversion vs. arch vs. cvs? We could probably get Mike Hearn to show off how he manages patches with SVK and then let him arm wrestle Alexandre about whether arch is better. Friday night we will have an informal dinner after meeting up at the hotel. The conference will kick off Saturday morning on campus around 8am. Lunch will be provided on Saturday and Sunday as well as dinner on Saturday. There will definitely be a lot of time for informal discussion. For the Samba guys - I think there's a great opportunity to share some knowledge to prevent anyone from reinventing the wheel. If there's any topic you'd find interesting, let me know. If you'd just like to hear a specific topic from the Wine folks, we can arrange that. For travel arrangements, please join wineconf(a)winehq.org ( http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wineconf ) For instance, I'm actually flying into Frankfurt on April 23rd and it'd be cool to hang out with anyone arriving early. If you haven't made reservations at a hotel, don't worry too much. There's still rooms available as Mr. Schmid described here: http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/03/1119.html If you haven't signed up on the RSVP list, please do so. It can be found on the WineConf page: http://www.winehq.com/site/wineconf Lastly, if you have any questions / comments / criticisms let me know. -Brian PS. Dimi owes me a beer from last year, so we're all obligated to go out Friday night. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone in Stuttgart!

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Re: WineConf Agenda
by Steven Edwards April 4, 2005

April 4, 2005

--- Andrew Tridgell <tridge(a)osdl.org> wrote: > Finally, if we have time, I'd like to discuss cooperation on IDL files > and MSRPC interfaces. Yes I would like to discuss this as well. Eirc Kohl has made quite a lot of changes to WIDL for ReactOS to support our MSRPC and PLug and Pray implementation and I would like to see these changes merged back in for Wine and Samba so we can adopt a common IDL compiler. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest

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After wineconf
by Ivan Leo Puoti April 3, 2005

April 3, 2005

I was wondering if after wineconf it would be a good idea to go to Dramstadt, has ESA got anything worth visiting there? If yes, someone want to come along? Ivan.

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RE: WineConf Agenda
by Charles W. Stevenson April 1, 2005

April 1, 2005

In presenting the commercial value of wine and why we chose to use it, etc. How much time do I have for the presentation? -----Original Message----- From: Jakob Eriksson [mailto:jakov(a)vmlinux.org] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:20 PM To: wineconf(a)winehq.org Cc: Wine Devel; Charles.W.Stevenson(a)guptaworldwide.com Subject: Re: WineConf Agenda Brian Vincent wrote: >I think a full agenda would be about 11 items. If you would like to >present something let me know - there's definitely space available. >If you've been wondering, "There's a neat project I'd like to do if I >could only get a few more people interested", well, this is the >perfect time to bring it up. If there's something strategic to Wine >development, this is a great time to discuss it. > > I don't know if I can find the time to prepare a proper presentation, but if I do, I'd like talk about and get some input from you on the subject of testing. 1) I want the conformance tests done faster. (I have a clear idea how.) 2) What's almost never been brought up on wine-devel is the unit testing in the XP sense. 1 has been discussed on wine-devel quite a bit, so I'll skip it in this mail. regarding 2: CXTest is like application testing. This is good, high-level testing. The conformance tests test the Windows API. But in the case of a complicated API (and Windows is complicated) maybe we need to test the smaller units behind the API. So, the conformance tests often are somewhere between application testing and unit testing. Can we have an infrastructure for running unit tests of small units of code private to the implementation? I.e. these tests, we could call them "private tests", would not run on Windows, but during build of Wine. Would it be acceptable to just include extra test code in the implementation c file, surrounded by #ifdef COMPILE_PRIVATE_TESTS ? regards, Jakob

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