http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14579
--- Comment #19 from Ken Sharp kennybobs@o2.co.uk 2008-08-11 08:29:56 --- (In reply to comment #18)
(In reply to comment #17)
and have you tested 0.9.58 through to 1.0.0 rc5?
Not every version, no. There is no need, that's what git bisect does for me. Every version that I have tested after 0.9.57, however, has failed to the same error message.
your test results seem to confirm my findings that it doesn't work on *ubuntu hardy, other people I've asked to test the affected games on debian lenny haven't had these issues even using wine 1.0, 1.1.0, 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 thats with Intel 915gm, Intel 945 and an ati graphics card
"x86 -- Intel ??? -- Xubuntu Hardy x86 -- 1.0.0 -- Success x86_64 -- Intel ??? -- Ubuntu Hardy x64 -- 1.0.0 -- Success"
It does work in Ubuntu Hardy.
your test results in comment 17 state that it works on fedora 9 in wine 1.0 (using an Intel card) but not in wine 1.1.x (using an ati card) surely that points to the fact that its more likely a problem with the graphics card/drivers and not wine - especially as you claim the problem is in all versions of wine after 0.9.57?
These are separate machines - the architecture and graphics card do not match.
i ask again whether you are using a Intel graphics card for the test results you have posted on the appdb or whether you were using the Radeon 5900?
The 5900 for x86 and an Intel for x64. I don't have the full details of the x64 machine at the moment as it is now in use (and not with me).
could you also post a bit more of the specification of your test machines - just the graphics card info isn't as useful (i used to have an amd x2 with an ati graphics card(using fglrx) and it wouldnt play any games fullscreen but when i swapped the card for an nvidia (using the binary drivers) it worked perfectly) - putting the same ati card into another intel system i had and i had no issues for example
if the radeon are you using fglrx or the opensource drivers?
Whatever is installed by default by all the distros I tested. The Radeon proprietary drivers I downloaded refuse to install on Ubuntu, claiming they're already installed... so I guess they are. However, "There are no restricted drivers in use on this system." I have tried answering this myself, but I have no clue as to how to find this out.
Works on some machines using wine >0.9.57, but works on all systems using wine <=0.9.57. The problem is not related to Linux distro, it seems to be related to the graphics card? But it does not exist in wine version 0.9.57 and earlier.
id agree that it does seem to be a graphics card/driver issue bear in mind that all versions of ubuntu share the same lower levels as in reality they are all the same distro just with a different graphical front end and window manager
Yes, but it still works under regression?
Interestingly, the games all exit with the exact same error message as in bug 14595, which has been accepted as a regression bug.
14595 at the time of writing this reply is marked as unconfirmed - that dosnt mean its been accepted - as i have a copy of unreal anthology ill try it out for myself when i get home - both with and without the mesa fixes from lenny
i assume you mean the one about ipixelformat? i still get that message with the mesa update - its a fixme not an error and it still works nonetheless
It's an error here, not a fixme. They don't work under Debian Lenny either.
I was also going to try Unreal Tournament (it would actually be nice to have it installed again) but I can't find the discs! I could always download the demo, I suppose.
Don't bother checking the appdb for results, we've had to remove someone for falsifying the results (to what gain, nobody knows).
bugzilla is not for ones personal opinions its for bugs - i believe Chris morgan has pointed that out to you already though so nuff said on that
A fact is not an opinion.
So, where is the bug if it is not a regression bug?
well from the information you have provided so far it still looks to be in mesa and possibly in the graphics driver - the debian lenny changelog for mesa mentions fixes were applied for intel graphics cards - i believe fglrx uses its own implementation but i cant confirm that atm - the nvidia driver definitely does
But this does not tally with my results. It does not work with Debian Lenny. It does work with Ubuntu under a different machine with an Intel graphics card.
It still works with an older version of wine.
It works in an old wine, it doesn't in the new. Isn't this the definition of a regression bug?
thats a very simplistic viewpoint -there are too many variables to break it down to just that - stub implementations of api's & functions can break applications - thats not necessarily a regression its more of an interaction problem imho
It works in 0.9.57.
There is still more testing I would like to try with this, but I have been short on time recently. I will, of course, update once I have some results.
I tested the latest GIT version too, obviously nothing changed.