[Bug 49865] New: Don't install Gecko by default

[WineHQ Bugzilla]

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

Bug ID: 49865
           Summary: Don't install Gecko by default
           Product: Wine
           Version: 5.17
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

https://wiki.winehq.org/Gecko alone isn't adequate as Browser replacement.

I suggest to use xdg-open instead.

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

[WineHQ Bugzilla]

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

Zebediah Figura  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Zebediah Figura  ---
(In reply to N from comment #0)
> https://wiki.winehq.org/Gecko alone isn't adequate as Browser replacement.
>
> I suggest to use xdg-open instead.

That's not what wine-gecko is used for. wine-gecko is for the embedded browser
API offered by mshtml, and subsets thereof.

It's also used for iexplore.exe, but in practice this is rarely opened directly
by applications. Websites opened by win32 applications with the default browser
in fact do end up going through xdg-open if available [and absent any custom
configuration].

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

--- Comment #2 from N  ---
I suggest to ship Gecko in "fat" package, not in "reasonably thin"
(https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49866)

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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Fabian Maurer  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Fabian Maurer  ---
(In reply to N from comment #2)
> I suggest to ship Gecko in "fat" package, not in "reasonably thin"
> (https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49866)

According to https://wiki.winehq.org/Gecko, wine-gecko can be used without
installing it to the WINEPREFIX. Is that good enough?

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

--- Comment #4 from N  ---
winecfg will create Gecko in WINEPREFIX as of 5.17

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

--- Comment #5 from N  ---
"will try to load Gecko from UNIX-style installation". Gecko is missing on my
system -> I have a copy in each WINEPREFIX?

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

--- Comment #6 from Fabian Maurer  ---
(In reply to N from comment #5)
> "will try to load Gecko from UNIX-style installation". Gecko is missing on
> my system -> I have a copy in each WINEPREFIX?

Well, yes, that's what that means.

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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Olivier F. R. Dierick  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Olivier F. R. Dierick  ---
Hello,

"will try to load Gecko from UNIX-style installation"
The wiki is not explicit on that part.

To install UNIX-style (and avoid having Gecko installed in each wineprefix),
you have to download the wine-gecko-<version>-<arch>.tar.bz2 and extract it in
one of the local search paths, for example, in "/usr/share/wine/gecko", so that
the contents of the tar file is there in the
"/usr/share/wine/gecko/wine-gecko-<version>-<arch>" sub-directory. You have to
do it for both x86 and x86_64 architectures.

wine-gecko is a required internal dependency.
If it were to not be installed, its functions would have to be implemented in
the dependent libraries which would be lots of duplicate efforts.
Not installing Gecko by default is therefore not a valid enhancement.

Marking invalid.

Regards.

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

--- Comment #8 from N  ---
Why winecfg can't install it in /usr/share/wine/gecko instead of WINEPREFIX?..

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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--- Comment #9 from Olivier F. R. Dierick  ---
(In reply to N from comment #8)
> Why winecfg can't install it in /usr/share/wine/gecko instead of
> WINEPREFIX?..

Hello,

For the same reason Wine can't write into /var/log: Only root (and accounts
with admin privileges) can write into /usr/share.

Wine has the same access as the user running it, but Wine MUST NOT be run as
root or it'll break wineprefixes and prevent applications from working, so it
can't install wine-gecko into /usr/share/wine itself. The admin has to do it.

It could be done at the packaging level but WineHQ.org currently doesn't
provide packaged wine-gecko, and none of the major linux distributions I know
of provide wine-gecko packages in UNIX-style installation.

Some distribution provide wine-gecko in MSI-style installation, but that
installs it in each wineprefix.

Regards.

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

--- Comment #10 from Austin English  ---
Closing.

[Bug 49865] Don't install Gecko by default

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49865

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--- Comment #11 from Austin English  ---
Closing.