[Bug 19297] New: MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19297

Summary: MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.1.25
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail]

MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19297

--- Comment #1 from JuryS   2009-07-12 15:17:21 ---
it's like a free software.

for downloading this software use link:

for eng:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d9ae78d9-9dc6-4b38-...

for russian version:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=ru&FamilyID=...

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

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Austin English  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Austin English   2009-07-12 16:08:30 ---
What doesn't work? It installs fine here.

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--- Comment #3 from JuryS   2009-07-12 16:19:44 ---
After install I'm try to run Access Runtime 2007:

arma@arma-desktop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office12$ wine
msaccess.exe
fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"AceDAO"
(12.0.0.0)
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe" failed, status c0000135
arma@arma-desktop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office12$

But old version of MS Access work perfectly, for the sample MS Access 97,
Access 2000, XP, 2003. All of this version but not Access Runtime 2007

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

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--- Comment #4 from JuryS   2009-07-12 16:46:38 ---
winetricks vcrun2005 vcrun2005sp1 don't change anything. I think that is Bug .

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--- Comment #5 from Ken Sharp   2009-07-12 19:22:02 ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> winetricks vcrun2005 vcrun2005sp1

There is a bug that affects the vcrun installers.  You should only run one.

winetricks vcrun2005sp1 should be enough.  Try that.

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

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--- Comment #6 from JuryS   2009-07-13 01:43:07 ---
After install of vcrun2005 and vcrun2005sp1:

arma@arma-desktop:~/Wine_C/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office12$ wine
msaccess.exe
fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly
L"Microsoft.VC80.CRT" (8.0.50608.0)
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe" failed, status c0000135

I think that is problem:
fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly
L"Microsoft.VC80.CRT" (8.0.50608.0)

Anybody run the MS Access Runtime 2007 under WINE ?

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Ken Sharp  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Ken Sharp   2009-07-13 08:05:25 ---
I did say only run one.

Anyway, confirming.
Copying MSVCR80 and MSVCP80 to the Office12 directory lets the app see them,
but a Vis C++ error then occurs.

fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"AceDAO"
(12.0.0.0)
is more likely to be the problem.

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--- Comment #8 from Andras Kovacs   2009-07-13 08:51:49 ---
this is probably same bug as 18889 
(http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18889)

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--- Comment #9 from JuryS   2009-07-13 13:44:38 ---
by the Microsoft.com:

"You do not need to buy any special SKU in order to redistribute the Access
2007 Runtime. You can freely redistribute it or point users to this
download.... "

No more license for MS Access Runtime ? We are need to run this software under
wine . Because in winetricks only ms access runtime 2000 and it's need license.

Very cool to run this application in Wine and fake M$ !

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--- Comment #10 from JuryS   2009-07-13 13:49:28 ---
How I can to help Wine HQ Labs ? What I can do that portage MS Access Runtime
2007 in WINE ???

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--- Comment #11 from JuryS   2009-07-15 14:53:26 ---
Any idea how to run M& Office Access Runtime 2007 in Wine? Now I used Access
Runtime 2003 and It's work cool ! But 2007 is free and It's most be used in
Linux! Maybe anybody know how It's make executable in Wine with Native Windows
DLL or *.reg file ???

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

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--- Comment #12 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-07-16 02:12:31 ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> Any idea how to run M& Office Access Runtime 2007 in Wine? Now I used Access
> Runtime 2003 and It's work cool ! But 2007 is free and It's most be used in
> Linux! Maybe anybody know how It's make executable in Wine with Native Windows
> DLL or *.reg file ???

This is a bugzilla, not a support forum.

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--- Comment #13 from JuryS   2009-07-16 05:10:17 ---
I think that use of native dll and any configuration files take information
about what is don't working. Maybe it's not globally and Bug may be fixed in
two weeks. I want to take part of this working.

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--- Comment #14 from JuryS   2009-07-18 13:15:22 ---
I can take for this work 5 hours on the week. But I don't understand what the
problem with loading msvcr80.dll and I don't know how the windows manifest
work.

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--- Comment #15 from JuryS   2009-07-24 14:52:05 ---
No any idea ?

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--- Comment #16 from Ken Sharp   2009-07-31 17:38:26 ---
Looks like Access itself has the same problem.

fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"AceDAO"
(12.0.0.0)
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\msaccess.exe" failed, status c0000135

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

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--- Comment #17 from JuryS   2009-07-31 18:06:38 ---
At a forum of users Wine I have found many people who cannot use the programs
for this reason.

It not only problem MS Access Runtime 2007. I have asked these users to
participate in discussion of this bug also.

I have counted over 10 appendices which cannot start because of that that Wine
is not able to work with MSVCR80.dll.

Thanks all for participation in discussion of this problem.

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--- Comment #18 from JuryS   2009-07-31 18:12:54 ---
Maybe, If we find more people who can't use the wine because MSVCR80.dll don't
working, Than the Target Milestone will be corrected on 1.2

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--- Comment #19 from Ken Sharp   2009-07-31 18:26:09 ---
The problem is already known, stop commenting on this bug whenever you feel
like saying something!

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--- Comment #20 from Andras Kovacs   2009-11-21 10:18:46 ---
(In reply to comment #19)
> The problem is already known, stop commenting on this bug whenever you feel
> like saying something!

The problem found look at
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18889

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--- Comment #21 from JuryS   2009-11-22 04:59:40 ---
Please mark this bug as a duplicate bug 18889
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18889

MS Office Access Runtime 2007 working after removing ACEADO.DLL, which
installed in program files directory. ACEADO.DLL including in RES manifest
file, which can't be find with wine NTDLL.so. And this was a bug. After
removing ACEADO.DLL Access 2007 working cool.

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

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--- Comment #22 from JuryS   2009-11-22 07:59:37 ---
(In reply to comment #21)
> Please mark this bug as a duplicate bug 18889
> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18889
>
> MS Office Access Runtime 2007 working after removing ACEADO.DLL, which
> installed in program files directory. ACEADO.DLL including in RES manifest
> file, which can't be find with wine NTDLL.so. And this was a bug. After
> removing ACEADO.DLL Access 2007 working cool.

!!! It's work only if extract manifest from ACEDAO.DLL (for sample with
Restorator 2007) and put extracted file with name "acedao.manifest" in
directory with MS ACCESS 2007. After this operation ACEDAO.DLL must be removed
from program directory, else msaccess.exe have no start.

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--- Comment #23 from Rick   2009-12-02 20:09:45 ---
I did not have ACEDAO.DLL installed anywhere, so deleting it was not an option.

Another option to get access running.

Change the manifest file for access msaccess.exe.manifest found in [Your Wine
Prefix]../Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office12 and remove the dependency
reference to AceDAO, ie edit the file and remove the following lines: (it may
be run together on the same line...)

<dependency>
 <dependentAssembly>
 <assemblyIdentity type="win32" name="AceDAO" version="12.0.0.0" language="*"
processorArchitecture="X86">
 </assemblyIdentity>
 </dependentAssembly>
 </dependency>

I found this suggestion here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1102840
and added it to ArchLinux Wiki here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Microsoft_Office_2007

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Jaime Rave  changed:

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--- Comment #24 from Jaime Rave   2009-12-02 20:26:49 ---
This is a dup of bug 19297

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19297

--- Comment #25 from Jaime Rave   2009-12-02 20:35:01 ---
(In reply to comment #24)
> This is a dup of bug 19297

Upss, bug 18889

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--- Comment #26 from JuryS   2009-12-03 14:56:17 ---
Created an attachment (id=25062)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=25062)
Manifest

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--- Comment #27 from JuryS   2009-12-03 14:57:33 ---
I make to run MS Access 2007 runtime with next:

1. removing Program Files / Microsoft Office / Office12 filename "ACEDAO.DLL"

2. put in this directory manifest. I'm extract this manifest with Restorator
2007 from ACEDAO.Dll.

3. ln
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winsxs/x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-ww_0de06acd/msvcp80.dll
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/msvcp80.dll
4. ln
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winsxs/x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-ww_0de06acd/msvcr80.dll
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/msvcr80.dll

5. Also for running MS Visual Basic I make override OLEAUT32.DLL and set it
native.

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--- Comment #28 from JuryS   2009-12-03 14:58:35 ---
I think that BUG must be closed.

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--- Comment #29 from JuryS   2009-12-03 15:06:32 ---
(In reply to comment #23)
> I did not have ACEDAO.DLL installed anywhere, so deleting it was not an option.
>
> Another option to get access running.
>
> Change the manifest file for access msaccess.exe.manifest found in [Your Wine
> Prefix]../Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office12 and remove the dependency
> reference to AceDAO, ie edit the file and remove the following lines: (it may
> be run together on the same line...)
>
>  <dependency>
>  <dependentAssembly>
>  <assemblyIdentity type="win32" name="AceDAO" version="12.0.0.0" language="*"
> processorArchitecture="X86">
>  </assemblyIdentity>
>  </dependentAssembly>
>  </dependency>
>
> I found this suggestion here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1102840
> and added it to ArchLinux Wiki here:
> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Microsoft_Office_2007

Your method is not actually, because vcrun2005 fail to install with Wine. It'a
a bug of vcrun2005 installer.
You can install this with override system library, and set up version Win2000.
Winetricks can't install this correctly.

When you are installing MS ACCESS 2007 and it have MSVCR80 library, You can
make :
1. ln
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winsxs/x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-ww_0de06acd/msvcp80.dll
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/msvcp80.dll
1. ln
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winsxs/x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-ww_0de06acd/msvcr80.dll
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/msvcr80.dll

and without any winetricks and PlayOnLinux and other fake.

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--- Comment #30 from [e-mail]  2010-01-25 11:43:21 ---
(In reply to comment #29)
> When you are installing MS ACCESS 2007 and it have MSVCR80 library, You can
> make :
> - ln
>
> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winsxs/x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-ww_0de06acd/msvcp80.dll
> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/msvcp80.dll
> - ln
>
> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winsxs/x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-ww_0de06acd/msvcr80.dll
> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/msvcr80.dll
>
> and without any winetricks and PlayOnLinux and other fake.

This works!!! However, now I get this error from the Visual C++ runtime
environment: msaccess.exe tried to load the library incorrectly.

Wine reports this error:

[mac0023329b341a:~] payam% msaccess
fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"AceDAO"
(12.0.0.0)
err:module:attach_process_dlls "MSVCR80.dll" failed to initialize, aborting
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE12\MSACCESS.EXE" failed, status c0000142

I just compiled wine 1.1.37 as a universal binary on my Snow Leopard Machine as
a universal application. Microsoft Word 2007 still runs fine.

But, it's Access that I need.

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

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--- Comment #31 from JuryS   2010-01-25 18:47:58 ---
Clear your wine bottle, remove all ~/.wine. and run winecfg again.

And don't try to intall VCRUN2005, because it's a bug of VCRUN installer. Make
only install MS Access and after this make all that I'm say in Comment #27.

In my comment #26 you must find Manifest. Don't forget this.

also sorry for my bad English.

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

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--- Comment #32 from [e-mail]  2010-01-26 11:52:46 ---
(In reply to comment #31)
> Clear your wine bottle, remove all ~/.wine. and run winecfg again.
>
> And don't try to intall VCRUN2005, because it's a bug of VCRUN installer. Make
> only install MS Access and after this make all that I'm say in Comment #27.
>
> In my comment #26 you must find Manifest. Don't forget this.
>
> also sorry for my bad English.

I would also add your comment number 22, which says to place the acedao
manifest in the Office12 folder.

This worked!! Access 2007 is running normally so far. The only problem I have
had so far is that it fails to open my database from my network (SMB) folder
with write privileges. I have to create a working copy.

You're awesome, and your English is good enough! Thank you very much!

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--- Comment #33 from Nikolay Sivov   2010-03-16 08:04:19 ---
Well, the real problem is in ntdll manifest lookup. Winedump tells us that
manifest isn't at 1 resource id (as it usually used to be):

--- dump ---
  RT_MANIFEST Name=0002 Language=0409:
--- dump ---

We don't currently try anything but Name=0001 and if it's not found we're
failing.
I'll try to produce a tested fix for this.

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--- Comment #34 from Jaime Rave   2010-03-16 09:21:43 ---
(In reply to comment #33)
> Well, the real problem is in ntdll manifest lookup. Winedump tells us that
> manifest isn't at 1 resource id (as it usually used to be):
>
> --- dump ---
>   RT_MANIFEST Name=0002 Language=0409:
> --- dump ---
>
> We don't currently try anything but Name=0001 and if it's not found we're
> failing.
> I'll try to produce a tested fix for this.

Does this path works for you? http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=25039

If yes, then this is a duplicate of bug 18889

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--- Comment #35 from Nikolay Sivov   2010-03-16 09:41:17 ---
(In reply to comment #34)
> Does this path works for you? http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=25039

It works of course, looks it's harmless to assume that first resource is what
we need. Was it ever submitted?
> If yes, then this is a duplicate of bug 18889

Agreed.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 18889 ***

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--- Comment #36 from Nikolay Sivov   2010-03-16 09:44:06 ---
Closing duplicate.

[Bug 19297] MS Office Access Runtime 2007 don't work

[WineHQ Bugzilla]

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