[Bug 31967] New: Unreal Engine games don't render anything on OS X

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31967

Bug #: 31967
           Summary: Unreal Engine games don't render anything on OS X
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.5.14
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
    Classification: Unclassified

Created attachment 42118
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Diff patch of the hack described in the post

All unreal engine games don't start on OS X.
I've attached a patch that makes the games playable, but this patch is causing
sync issues in the game animations, and causes XCOM: Enemy Unknown to crash
when going in game.

The problem must be somewhere else, I've only attached the hack to give you
guys a clue of where the problem might be, so you can create a proper patch

Thanks and keep up the great work

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--- Comment #1 from thanoulas  2012-10-14 06:08:38 CDT ---
Some example games affected:
Batman Arkham City
XCOM: Enemy Unknown
Borderlands 2

I should also note that my OS X is 10.8.2 but I've had this issue since 10.7.x

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--- Comment #2 from darrrk  2013-01-23 23:01:40 CST ---
This is major bug, because it's garbage all games on OS X, which used Unreal
engine.

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--- Comment #3 from darrrk  2013-01-23 23:04:25 CST ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Some example games affected:
> Batman Arkham City
> XCOM: Enemy Unknown
> Borderlands 2
>
> I should also note that my OS X is 10.8.2 but I've had this issue since 10.7.x

I confirm, that Borderlands 2 affected.

thanoulas, if you shure, that "Batman Arkham City" and "XCOM: Enemy Unknown"
affected too. Please, add this games in "Show Apps affected by this bug" list.

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--- Comment #4 from [e-mail] 2013-03-07 21:43:10 CST ---
I can confirm that this patch works for Borderlands 2 under 10.8.2, although
the screen is oddly sized: it's set to render at 1920x1200 but only renders
1920x1127 (probably because of OS X's menu bar). Other than that, the only
issue I can find is that the mouse sometimes disappears randomly when going
through the menus - everything else works well. Performance is actually a ton
better than the native Aspyr port!

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--- Comment #5 from thanoulas  2013-03-08 18:39:55 CST ---
Added affected games in the list.

Can also verify the following UE3 games:
Dishonored
DmC: Devil May Cry

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--- Comment #6 from Benjamin Hodgetts  2013-05-17 05:35:28 CDT ---
Corrected subject to be more specific.

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--- Comment #7 from Loris Zinsou  2013-07-26 09:08:03 CDT ---
I confirm this bug also happens on Ubuntu 13.04.
I tried XCOM : Enemy Unknown and Dishonored. For both of them, I have the intro
video and menu sound playing, but no window is showing up.

I can work around this bug by configuring wine to use a virtual desktop (but
virtual desktop is broken in Ubuntu 13.04, with Unity showing on top of it even
if it is fullscreen).

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--- Comment #8 from thanoulas  2013-07-29 11:37:37 CDT ---
Still present in 1.6 stable and OS X 10.8.4
Provided patch still fixes the issue

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--- Comment #9 from Loris Zinsou  2013-07-30 06:08:47 CDT ---
Somebody should chnage the subject because Linux is also affected.

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--- Comment #10 from thanoulas  2013-07-30 06:10:46 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> Somebody should chnage the subject because Linux is also affected.

Does the provided patch work for you on linux?

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--- Comment #11 from Loris Zinsou  2013-07-31 10:51:05 CDT ---
I don't know yet, as bulding wine on currently supported Ubuntu versions is
some kind of a hassle. I'll have to take time to set up a building environment.

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--- Comment #12 from Austin English  2013-08-02 12:47:16 CDT ---
Do any of these games have a free demo/download available?

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--- Comment #13 from [e-mail] 2013-08-02 13:12:01 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> Do any of these games have a free demo/download available?

Batman: Arkham Asylum has a demo available.

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--- Comment #14 from Loris Zinsou  2013-08-02 16:30:12 CDT ---
XCOM : Enemy Unknown  also has a demo on steam.

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--- Comment #15 from Austin English  2013-08-02 19:01:41 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> (In reply to comment #12)
> > Do any of these games have a free demo/download available?
>
> Batman: Arkham Asylum has a demo available.

http://www.gamershell.com/download_49402.shtml

Runs fine on Linux. On OSX, I get problems with wbemproxy. They happen on linux
as well, but when I get to the menu on osx, I can't get any further, the text
doesn't display well and the errors appear to be fatal.

I didn't try the x-com demo.

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--- Comment #16 from thanoulas  2013-08-02 19:04:04 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> > (In reply to comment #12)
> > > Do any of these games have a free demo/download available?
> >
> > Batman: Arkham Asylum has a demo available.
>
> http://www.gamershell.com/download_49402.shtml
>
> Runs fine on Linux. On OSX, I get problems with wbemproxy. They happen on linux
> as well, but when I get to the menu on osx, I can't get any further, the text
> doesn't display well and the errors appear to be fatal.
>
> I didn't try the x-com demo.

The reported game here is Batman Arkham City, not Arkham Asylum. I'm not sure
whether Arkham Asylum is affected by this bug

Any Unreal Engine 3 game should behave the same at least under OS X

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--- Comment #17 from Chiitoo  2013-08-03 16:14:19 CDT ---
I tried the demo for Batman - Arkham City as well as for Quantum Conundrum, and
they both do start (though Batman requires some dotnet magick).  Batman renders
things fine from what I could see.  I was, however, experiencing some weird
mouse or/and game-pad issues with both demos, where the camera would constantly
move by itself so that I was looking up... but that's another story.

Quantum Conundrum has some issues with rendering the graphics once in-game, but
I have a feeling it's not what this bug is about.

Moreover, the AppDB suggests that the full versions of the Batman game as well
as XCOM - Enemy Unknown work fine on Linux.  I have no full versions games
using the Unreal Engine 3 to try out, but I might grab some more demos, even
though Austin already posted similar results.

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--- Comment #18 from [e-mail] 2013-08-03 16:49:28 CDT ---
I tried the Batman: Arkham Asylum demo without the patch (under 1.7.0) on a
2013 MacBook Air and only got a black screen; no audio from the intro movies or
anything, so I'm assuming the game startup didn't even get that far.

With the query.c patch the game is playable; intro movies play and the menus
work. No problems with text or the camera from what I could tell – the game ran
really slowly since the HD 5000 in the MacBook Air isn't really up to the task,
so I didn't play for long.

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--- Comment #19 from [e-mail] 2013-08-03 16:51:10 CDT ---
Forgot to mention that I was using OS X 10.8.4.

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--- Comment #20 from Loris Zinsou  2013-08-03 18:57:01 CDT ---
I finally was able to build wine 1.6 with the patch provided, and now XCOM : EU
and Dishonored are ok, without using a virtual desktop.

Actually, the intro movies do not show, but once the main menu is loaded (i can
tell that from the ambient sound), the game window finally shows up and starts
rendering the game perfectly fine.

Maybe i have this issue because i use primus to run wine games...

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--- Comment #21 from Chiitoo  2013-08-03 23:59:08 CDT ---
Seems like I forgot to mention what I tried them things on!

Linux-3.9.11-ck-x86_64-AMD_Phenom-tm-_II_X6_1090T_Processor-with-gentoo-2.2

With Wine versions from 1.6 to 1.7.

Just tried XCOM - Enemy Unknown as well, and that works, too, but even that has
something weird going on with the mouse/movement controls for me.  The view
keeps moving towards the 'north-west' by itself.

Weird!

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--- Comment #22 from Silviu C.  2013-11-19 13:27:56 CST ---
The original poster says that Unreal Engine 3 games don't *start* but the title
says they don't *render*. Do they indeed not start at all or do they start but
don't show anything on screen while sound still plays in the background?

That is the behaviour I get with Borderlands 2, XCOM Enemy Unknown and Batman
Arkham City on Ubuntu 12.04. With the first two titles it's a bit easier,
because the window manager gets a hint that a widow is created, it shows it in
the taskbar, and I can get to the game by doing an Alt+Tab. I can't do this
with Arkham City. The sound plays in the background but the window manager has
no clue that the game, probably, created a window somewhere so I have to force
it to a virtual desktop.

I wonder if this is not a case of wine creating a window that somehow gets
placed behind the actual desktop, think of these things like layers. The
background layer should be the desktop but somehow this window that the game
created managed to get behind the "desktop layer"

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--- Comment #23 from thanoulas  2013-11-21 09:58:47 CST ---
I think it's irrelevant to window creation, mostly based on the patch I
provided. The window does get created, but nothing works on that. All you can
see is a black screen and no sound or anything else plays in the background. If
you apply the patch, you do see some weird window behaviour, but it doesn't
look different to what happens without the patch ( excluding the black screen
of course ).

The game creates a window with a splash image, and a window where the render
target is. This gets minimized for a while, until the game starts up, then gets
maximized and pulled to the front. The same happens on the non patched version,
but after the window where the game gets rendered is brought to the front all
you see is black, and nothing happens in the background.

I've added some trace messages to the query.c file which showed that the game
was actually looping through the GL_TIMEOUT_EXPIRED case in the
event_query_test function. Forcing this to return WINED3D_EVENT_QUERY_OK fixed
the problem

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--- Comment #24 from Austin English  ---
Is this still an issue in 1.7.36?

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--- Comment #25 from Rüdiger Hanke  ---
(In reply to Austin English from comment #24)
> Is this still an issue in 1.7.36?

Since noone replied yet, I'd like to report that I believe it is still an
issue.

I'm having the exact problem as described here with "Brothers: A Tale of Two
Sons", also an Unreal Engine 3 game, on MacOS.

I have tried it once more with Wine 1.7.36 and after the logo, I just get a
black screen.

If it helps with tracking this issue down, if I set the
"Wine/Direct3D/StrictDrawOrdering" registry key to "enabled", the game works.

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--- Comment #26 from thanoulas  ---
I can confirm this is still an issue with wine 1.7.51 and OS X 10.11GM

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--- Comment #27 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to thanoulas from comment #26)
> I can confirm this is still an issue with wine 1.7.51 and OS X 10.11GM

1.7.51 is really old by now. Can someone test this bug against wine 2.x series?

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--- Comment #28 from Rüdiger Hanke  ---
At least for "Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons" the black screen is no longer an
issue with recent 2.x Wine versions.

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--- Comment #29 from Oscar van Vliet  ---
I ran Mass Effect 3 with a Wine 2.6 Staging and had no troubles with black
screens.

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--- Comment #30 from Matteo Bruni  ---
(In reply to Rüdiger Hanke from comment #25)
> If it helps with tracking this issue down, if I set the
> "Wine/Direct3D/StrictDrawOrdering" registry key to "enabled", the game works.

It should be fixed by csmt (you still need to enable it in the registry for the
time being).

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Closing bugs fixed in 2.10.