[Bug 17403] New: Uru - Ages Beyond Myst + Expansion Packs: Decompressing sounds produces faulty output

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17403

Summary: Uru - Ages Beyond Myst + Expansion Packs: Decompressing
                    sounds produces faulty output
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.1.15
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: other
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

This is a problem with Uru - Ages Beyond Myst with the expansion packs To D'ni
and The Path of the Shell. This game saves all the sounds in ogg format, but
most of them are decompressed to one or two wav files (sometimes mono/joined
stereo, sometimes one for the left and one for the right speaker). These wav
files will then be used in game. The decompressing is done by a dedicated app
called "SoundDecompress.exe" which is called by the installer after
installation finished. This app generally works fine in wine, it decompresses
the right ogg files to the right wav files, and the wav files can be played by
aplay or kaffeine. However, the game itself is unable to use the wav files, I
hear nothing in game. If I use the files which were created by running
SoundDecompress on Windows, everything works fine, so I think the fault occurs
while running the decompress, but I wouldn't know how to check that. The files
created on Windows are bigger than the ones which were created on wine.

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--- Comment #1 from Austin English   2009-08-26 13:24:43 ---
Is this still present in current (1.1.28 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #2 from [e-mail]  2009-08-29 03:51:14 ---
Yes, it is.

There also is a free demo of Uru available, maybe it can be used to reproduce
the bug:
http://download.cnet.com/Uru-Ages-Beyond-Myst-demo/3000-7495_4-10245688.html

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--- Comment #3 from Austin English   2009-08-29 12:17:00 ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> Yes, it is.
>
> There also is a free demo of Uru available, maybe it can be used to reproduce
> the bug:
> http://download.cnet.com/Uru-Ages-Beyond-Myst-demo/3000-7495_4-10245688.html

Please test the demo before asking others to do so.

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--- Comment #4 from [e-mail]  2009-09-01 11:32:12 ---
Sorry, I was in a hurry when I wrote the last comment. I now tested the demo
(downloaded from http://www.gamershell.com/download_4119.shtml because the
other link gave a very slow download) and can confirm the issue:

After installing, on the first launch, the game decompresses some (most) of the
ogg files (located in gamefolder/sfx) to wav files (in
gamefolder/sfx/streamingCache). These wav files are obviously incorrect, as in
the game, I do not hear footstep sounds. However I do hear music when
approaching the caravan (just one straight forward), which is directly streamed
from the ogg file. Copying the wav files from a Windows installation fixes the
sound issues.

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--- Comment #5 from [e-mail]  2009-11-03 14:28:20 ---
I had a look at this issue again with wine 1.1.32 and it persists. While trying
to find out what the difference between the two files is, I noticed that the
sample rate and other properties are completely correct. However the file does
not even contain all the original sound data (when listening to both the files
created by Windows and the one created by wine, the latter seems to start a bit
later). I then opened both in Audacity to compare them, and indeed wine's file
is quite a bit shorter. I attached a screenshot of the two files in Audacity,
roughly aligned (the upper one is the correct one, below is the faulty file).

I don't even know what part of wine might be responsible for this problem -
maybe I can replace some file(s) with native ones to circumvent the problem?

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--- Comment #6 from [e-mail]  2009-11-03 14:30:41 ---
Created an attachment (id=24534)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=24534)
showing both sound files in Audacity: Above the correct one, below what is
created with wine

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--- Comment #7 from [e-mail]  2009-11-04 10:37:26 ---
If I replace the builtin winmm.dll file with a native one and tell winecfg to
actually use that native dll file, sound decompression works perfectly (the
md5sums of the files created on Windows and the ones created on Wine are the
same). However, I have to switch back to the builtin winmm.dll to actually get
any sound in the game. Obviously, the problem is somewhere in winmm.

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--- Comment #8 from GyB  2012-03-04 12:16:10 CST ---
This is still a problem as of Wine-1.4-rc6. I tested with the demo for Uru:
Ages Beyond MYST.
http://www.fileplanet.com/133011/130000/fileinfo/Uru:-Ages-Beyond-MYST-Demo

There is something going wrong during the sound decompression stage, when using
the built-in winmm.dll. This is done on the first game start. Therefore audio
is missing in the game (footsteps, ambient sounds), except for the background
music. Music is playing because it is not converted from ogg to wav but played
directly from the corresponding .ogg file.
Native winmm.dll is needed to correctly decompress the audio files. After the
conversion is done, winmm must be set back to built-in (no audio in the game
with the native one).

I wonder if a debug log (e.g. +winmm,+tid,+mmio,+mmtime,+mci,+driver) would be
of any help?

Fedora 16
Alsa 1.0.25
Pulseaudio is not running
Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)

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--- Comment #9 from André H.  2012-03-05 12:10:17 CST ---
Adding Jörg here

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--- Comment #10 from Jörg Höhle  2012-11-05 05:37:22 CST ---
The bug descriptions above are not completely clear to me.  With Wine's winmm,
SoundDecompress.exe creates a file with the same format (rate, channels etc.)
as native and valid data (kaffeine plays it, comment #0), right?  Audacity's
screenshot in attachment #24534 (comment #5) shows that it contains a subset of
native's data, missing begin and end parts.  Now instead of playing these
shorter but correctly formed .wav files, the app plays nothing (but music,
comment #8).  Do these wav files contain one coherent sound or are these a
concatenation of lots of different sounds?

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--- Comment #11 from [e-mail] 2012-11-13 15:05:17 CST ---
I just tested this again on Wine 1.5.17. The bug is still present, however now
the game crashes when it should play a sound.
I had a look at the file in Audacity again, and it still looks the same as it
did two years ago.

(In reply to comment #10)
> The bug descriptions above are not completely clear to me.  With Wine's winmm,
> SoundDecompress.exe creates a file with the same format (rate, channels etc.)
> as native and valid data (kaffeine plays it, comment #0), right?

The part which VLC shows are the same: rate, channels, bits per sample
> Audacity's
> screenshot in attachment #24534 [details] (comment #5) shows that it contains a subset of
> native's data, missing begin and end parts.  Now instead of playing these
> shorter but correctly formed .wav files, the app plays nothing (but music,
> comment #8).

Correct - or it crashes, with Wine 1.5.17.
I am however not sure these wav files are well-formed - all I know is VLC and
Audacity play them.
The music is not coming from wav files, the game directly uses the ogg files to
play it, so it is unaffected by the problems during sound decompression.
> Do these wav files contain one coherent sound or are these a
> concatenation of lots of different sounds?

Each wav file is a single sound, like a door closing, a button being pressed.

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--- Comment #12 from Jörg Höhle  2012-11-19 07:39:27 CST ---
> however now the game crashes [...] two years ago.

To speed up regression testing, use the paths argument to git bisect e.g.
git bisect start 1.5.17 1.1.15 -- dlls/winmm/ dlls/winealsa.drv/ dlls/msacm*/
then check whether the parent^ commit works and
file a separate bug report about the regression (check for duplicates first).

You may also check the changes to winmm/mmio.c in 1.5.17+emerging 1.5.18

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--- Comment #13 from Jörg Höhle  2012-12-12 09:54:52 CST ---
Did you guys check bug #28982 and bug #19566?
Each of these has patches to winmm's MMIO and the mmio tests still contain some
todo_wine.  Perhaps that's related?

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--- Comment #14 from [e-mail] 2012-12-13 08:33:14 CST ---
I will check these patches, thanks.

I did not yet do the giant bisect as that will take a huge amount of time (we
are talking about ~3 years of wine history here) - only to find out when one
kind of failure (file doesn't play) is replaced by another (game crashes).

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--- Comment #15 from [e-mail] 2012-12-13 09:33:18 CST ---
The 2nd patch you mentioned has already landed in wine 1.5.19, which did not
help. The first one did not change anything either.

It just came to my mind that the behavioural change might also be caused by a
difference in my wine setup (well, this is a totally different machine than
back then, but anyway): I am now using PulseAudio, and the winepulse driver
from http://repo.or.cz/w/wine/multimedia.git (without these, sound is mostly
broken, not only in Uru but also in other games).

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--- Comment #16 from Rosanne DiMesio  2012-12-13 12:06:27 CST ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> It just came to my mind that the behavioural change might also be caused by a
> difference in my wine setup (well, this is a totally different machine than
> back then, but anyway): I am now using PulseAudio, and the winepulse driver
> from http://repo.or.cz/w/wine/multimedia.git (without these, sound is mostly
> broken, not only in Uru but also in other games).

I downloaded the demo from
http://www.fileplanet.com/133011/130000/fileinfo/Uru:-Ages-Beyond-MYST-Demo
(neither of the two links mentioned above worked for me). I am not using
winepulse, and the demo does not crash for me when it tries to play a sound
effect.

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--- Comment #17 from Jörg Höhle  2012-12-14 04:42:35 CST ---
diafero or Gyb, please show md5sums of at least one file generated by
Decompress.Exe a) on a native box or with a native winmm.dll (identical
according to comment #7) and b) with Wine's winmm.dll.  That'll allow others,
e.g. Rosanne to assess what sort of file they got.

BTW, I'd be interested to know whether a native box with all sound drivers
disabled passes the Decompress stage.  I believe it should, because the codecs
do not depend on an actual backend.  I'm curious how Wine would react.

winepulse should make no difference in an original winmm bug.  It may make a
difference w.r.t. the crash initially reported in comment #11.  BTW, attaching
a backtrace (from Wine compiled from source incl. debug info) may help with
crashes, together with a short log of the last calls prior to the crash.

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--- Comment #18 from [e-mail] 2012-12-20 12:03:56 CST ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> diafero or Gyb, please show md5sums of at least one file generated by
> Decompress.Exe a) on a native box or with a native winmm.dll (identical
> according to comment #7) and b) with Wine's winmm.dll.  That'll allow others,
> e.g. Rosanne to assess what sort of file they got.

md5sums of broken files:
f773fa6cb852a1baf6b6fbd7f2851a6f  xLink-Stereo.wav
a20e6a6b0d91a475003b81616f3c688e  xLink.wav

md5sums of correct files (copied from a Windows installation):
99288161b22accc823e910757765e3c2  xLink-Stereo.wav
1ce28dee24d8dcc1a49342f9f4586a4e  xLink.wav
> winepulse should make no difference in an original winmm bug.  It may make a
> difference w.r.t. the crash initially reported in comment #11.  BTW, attaching
> a backtrace (from Wine compiled from source incl. debug info) may help with
> crashes, together with a short log of the last calls prior to the crash.

How do I catch such a backtrace? When the crash happened, the application still
had the X cursor grabbed, so I had to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get rid of it... I
can of course try to redirect all output to some file, but will the default
output contain all necessary information?
Also, I have no idea whether my compiled-from-source wine has debug
information, but I guess I will be able to tell from the backtrace^^

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--- Comment #19 from Rosanne DiMesio  2012-12-20 13:15:17 CST ---

(In reply to comment #18)
> md5sums of broken files:
> f773fa6cb852a1baf6b6fbd7f2851a6f  xLink-Stereo.wav
> a20e6a6b0d91a475003b81616f3c688e  xLink.wav
>
> md5sums of correct files (copied from a Windows installation):
> 99288161b22accc823e910757765e3c2  xLink-Stereo.wav
> 1ce28dee24d8dcc1a49342f9f4586a4e  xLink.wav

Mine don't match either one: 
586d1f84ebb98ec4fca5b45592024cee  xLink-Stereo.wav
7b831cc21704d8a88dabdd3a17405580  xLink.wav

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--- Comment #20 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
Still present in 1.7.35

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*** Bug 34973 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #22 from Piotr Caban  ---
I've sent patches that fixes this bug in Uru: Age Beyond Myst demo:
http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/109261
http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/109262

It's needed to remove broken wav files or reinstall the game to get it running
with the patches.

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--- Comment #23 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
(In reply to Piotr Caban from comment #22)
> I've sent patches that fixes this bug in Uru: Age Beyond Myst demo:
> http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/109261
> http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/109262
>
> It's needed to remove broken wav files or reinstall the game to get it
> running with the patches.

The patches fix the missing audio issue in URU:Complete Chronicles and MYST:
Uru Online as well. Thanks a lot!

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--- Comment #24 from Piotr Caban  ---
The patches are in wine. Marking as fixed.

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Closing bugs fixed in 1.7.38.