https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43797
Bug ID: 43797 Summary: wow64 support list Product: Wine Version: unspecified Hardware: x86-64 OS: other Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: blocker Priority: P2 Component: -unknown Assignee: wine-bugs@winehq.org Reporter: shitman71@hotmail.com
Since there is more and more games who completely switch over to x64 from x32 there is need to get it all together within a bug to give it more attention.
Planetside 2 requires x64, unsure if it did switch to x64 and was 32-bit before Hawken recently switched over to x64, cannot be started anymore Conan Exiles requires x64
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43797
--- Comment #1 from SF shitman71@hotmail.com --- Planetside 2 was x86 up to 2014, i cannot find out at which date it did switch over to x64 but i did play it last year and i think this happened recently. Might be wrong.
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Nikolay Sivov bunglehead@gmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|blocker |normal
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Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID
--- Comment #2 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net --- The fact that many games are switching to 64 bit only is not a Wine bug. Wine has supported 64 bit for years, and many 64 bit games and apps work just fine.
If a specific game has a problem, file a bug for that problem; the rule in bugzilla is one problem per bug report.
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--- Comment #3 from SF shitman71@hotmail.com --- The topic is wow64 and not x64, thats a difference. And this definitely is a bug, wow64 support is still not working and in experimental phase. The games listed are games which require wow64. To give more attention to wow64 support i oppened a general bug to this to get an overview of games which require wow64 support which is implemented into wine but not fully working.
Off-topic: dx11 and wow64 are things which are a must to wine to survive, unsure if wow64 is widely needed now but soon enough you wont come around anymore.
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--- Comment #4 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net --- Wow64 stands for "Windows on Windows 64," i.e., running 32 bit apps/games on 64 bit Windows. Wine has that support already. You're right, there are still problems in many cases. You should file separate bugs for each of those cases. Meta-bugs are not helpful.
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--- Comment #5 from SF shitman71@hotmail.com --- So i need to create for every single application/game a seperate bug just to say that it needs wow64-support to run it?
wow64 is not aviable for FreeBSD on normal ways, i have to build it myself and as far as i remember only archlinux has some kind of working implementation of wow64. i think we arent at the point to make bugreports for every single application, wow64-support is in a generic way missing and not easy to get and there is an increasing amount of applications that require it. my guess was to do a summation of applications and games which require it because i recognised some recent switchovers even of older games which dropped support for x86, is there any other/better way to get this to attention?
isn't a metabug helpfull in this case?
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--- Comment #6 from Nikolay Sivov bunglehead@gmail.com --- (In reply to SF from comment #5)
So i need to create for every single application/game a seperate bug just to say that it needs wow64-support to run it?
Wow64 support is there already.
wow64 is not aviable for FreeBSD on normal ways, i have to build it myself and as far as i remember only archlinux has some kind of working implementation of wow64.
It's a matter of getting proper wine64 and wine32 builds. It's not limited to archlinux in any way.
i think we arent at the point to make bugreports for every single application, wow64-support is in a generic way missing and not easy to get and there is an increasing amount of applications that require it. my guess was to do a summation of applications and games which require it because i recognised some recent switchovers even of older games which dropped support for x86, is there any other/better way to get this to attention?
If you have working wine64 setup, that includes wow64 support, and something does not work, please open a bug report. If wine64 is not working at all on your system open a bug report for that.
isn't a metabug helpfull in this case?
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--- Comment #7 from SF shitman71@hotmail.com --- https://bugs.winehq.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity
Severity This field describes the impact of a bug. blocker Blocks development and/or testing work critical Critical problem that prevents all applications from working major Major loss of functionality for a wide range of applications normal For an application crash or loss of functionality minor For minor loss of functionality, or other problem where an easy workaround is present trivial For a UI glitch that doesn't affect running of a program enhancement Request for enhancement
I dont know what is wrong with this, gathering together a list of applications which are prevented from running without proper wow64 support is critical/blocker imho and getting wow64 on FreeBSD is a pain in the ass.
https://wiki.winehq.org/FreeBSD https://wiki.winehq.org/Building_Wine#Shared_WoW64
All of this, also the linuxpart is vaguely and far from being openly supported. Its like this since a while now and more and more applications require it. So making it critical at the point we have enough applications listed which require it is something that doesnt want to be seen here? Thats completely opposing the meaning of critical and blocker. Generic bugs aren't unwelcome.
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Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED
--- Comment #8 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com --- (In reply to SF from comment #7)
https://bugs.winehq.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity
Severity This field describes the impact of a bug. blocker Blocks development and/or testing work critical Critical problem that prevents all applications from working major Major loss of functionality for a wide range of applications normal For an application crash or loss of functionality minor For minor loss of functionality, or other problem where an easy workaround is present trivial For a UI glitch that doesn't affect running of a program enhancement Request for enhancement
I dont know what is wrong with this, gathering together a list of applications which are prevented from running without proper wow64 support is critical/blocker imho and getting wow64 on FreeBSD is a pain in the ass.
https://wiki.winehq.org/FreeBSD https://wiki.winehq.org/Building_Wine#Shared_WoW64
That's not a Wine issue, it's a FreeBSD issue. Open a bug in their tracker about it. WoW64 works on most distributions of Linux, (but is a pain on others because of difficulty installing necessary 32-bit libraries). Wine isn't responsible for system libraries, your OS is.
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--- Comment #9 from SF shitman71@hotmail.com --- This means that wow64 isn't properly implemented on os'es but wine does?
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--- Comment #10 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net --- Wine has had WoW64 support since wine-1.2; that's 7 years. The WineHQ packages for 64 bit Fedora, Ubuntu, and Debian are all WoW64 builds, as are the distro packages for 64 bit openSUSE and Arch. There are probably some distros that aren't packaging proper WoW64 builds, but that's a distro packaging issue.
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SF shitman71@hotmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|INVALID |ABANDONED
--- Comment #11 from SF shitman71@hotmail.com --- To me this sounded different to what i did read throughout the internet, more like a wineproblem then something which distros didn't achieve within that much time. I guess i have to kick some asses...
I mark it as abandoned since the maintopic is not invalid and this is not fixed, there is applications which recently switched to x64 and require wow64 support. This can be continued if there is wow64-support implemented by distros and still nothing working.
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