[Bug 10490] New: Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

Summary: Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine
           Product: Wine
           Version: 0.9.49.
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P2
         Component: wine-directx
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=9231)
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Run log, attempting to run the already installed app.

Catia V5R17 installs fine but fails to work in Wine since 3D hardware (OpenGL)
isn't recognized. The same app works on the same hardware with real Windows XP
Professional as well as in Windows 2000 on VirtualPC (no OpenGL at all).

Graphics hardware is Intel GMA X3000, supporting OpenGL 1.4. Catia starts in
Wine, but pops up a dialog reading "No certified OpenGL library has been found.
Check your system installation."

This bug is about to track the behaviour mismatch between Wine and real
Windows. Once this OpenGL issue is fixed, things look promising since Menus and
dialogs appear to work fine already. I'm unsure how to attack this bug,
however.

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

Stefan Dösinger  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-18 04:40:32 ---
Perhaps the app depends on specific OpenGL vendor strings like "Microsoft" or
"NVIDIA Corporation". Propably something Linux-Specific as "Mesa" (which the
Intel driver uses) isn't accepted by this app?

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

--- Comment #2 from Austin English   2007-11-18 05:09:36 ---
'heb@rutan:~/.wine/drive_c$ wine Programme/Dassault\
Systemes/B17/intel_a/code/bin/CNEXT.exe'

Don't run your programs this way. Try:

$ cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Programme/Dassault\ Systemes/B17/intel_a/code/bin/
$ wine CNEXT.exe

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Dan Kegel  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Dan Kegel   2007-11-18 06:03:10 ---
Aw, I run apps with absolute paths all the time... it's fine if it works.

I also have a copy of Catia, but can't try it because of bug 9137.
How did you get past that?

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

Dan Kegel  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Dan Kegel   2007-11-18 06:03:54 ---
Not blocker.

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

--- Comment #5 from Traumflug   2007-11-18 07:46:03 ---
> I also have a copy of Catia, but can't try it because of bug 9137.
> How did you get past that?

After looking for help on eMule, it suddenly worked.

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

--- Comment #6 from Traumflug   2007-11-18 07:56:17 ---
Catia software requirements read "A Microsoft implementation of OpenGL
libraries, as delivered with with Windows 2000 or Windows XP". Graphics works
even in Windows 2000 on VirtualPC. VirtualPC emulates an antique "S3 Trio
32/64", so it's likely not a matter of lacking OpenGL features.

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-11-18 10:57:32 ---
Please attach debug output with WINEDEBUG=warn+all,+loaddll

(In reply to comment #3)
> Aw, I run apps with absolute paths all the time... it's fine if it works.

Wrong, see FAQ for complete explanation. You are welcome to write tests proving
that Wine should do something different - there are already loads of tests on
the contrary showing that number of badly written programs _WILL_ fail. And
indeed they do fail, even on windows!

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

--- Comment #8 from Traumflug   2007-11-18 13:15:22 ---
Created an attachment (id=9239)
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Runlog with debugging messages
> Please attach debug output with WINEDEBUG=warn+all,+loaddll

This time, I get an "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library" dialog. It reads
"Runtime Error! ...\bin\CNEXT.exe. I've put a remark into the runlog when this
happens (some 30 lines from the bottom).

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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--- Comment #9 from Austin English   2007-11-19 01:06:04 ---
You need to install Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 redistributable libraries.
Easiest way:

$ wget http://kegel.com/wine/winetricks
$ sh winetricks vcrun2005

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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Traumflug  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Traumflug   2007-11-19 14:54:30 ---
Created an attachment (id=9252)
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Runlog "Type CATDrawing unknown"
> You need to install Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 redistributable libraries.

Thanks, did that.

Some experimenting with a real Windows installation with the same app installed
showed three things so far:

- Using Microsoft's opengl32.dll and vcrun2005, the complaint about a
non-certified OpenGL driver vanishes.

- Copying C:\windows\Profiles over to Wine's drive_c makes Catia run stable.

- Both effects are arbitrary.

Now I can click through Catia's menus, many dynamic menu items are missing,
though. When attempting to open a file (file open dialog works), I get an error
message like "Type CATDrawing unknown." Same for other Catia file types. File
-> New doesn't produce anything.

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

--- Comment #11 from Austin English   2008-06-04 11:30:41 ---
Is this still an issue in 1.0-rc3 or newer wine?

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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--- Comment #12 from Traumflug   2008-06-04 12:52:03 ---
I'll check that. Please allow me two weeks as it's quite some work for me.

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Paul  changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Paul   2008-06-08 03:47:31 ---
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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--- Comment #14 from Paul   2008-06-08 03:51:06 ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> Is this still an issue in 1.0-rc3 or newer wine?

Yes, it is (in 1.0 rc4).

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

--- Comment #15 from Traumflug   2008-07-09 15:02:13 ---
Created an attachment (id=14704)
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Runlog of the installer

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490

--- Comment #16 from Traumflug   2008-07-09 15:19:22 ---
It appears to help if you install vcrun2005 before _installing_ the app:

I watched the installer run and found two backtraces on the console. See
attachment, the essence seems to be this:
Unimplemented function ntoskrnl.exe.IoRegisterShutdownNotification

Nevertheless, this installs a running application (including working desktop
icon - very nice).

I've compared Wine's OpenGL lib with the native one. Neither shows something
but a few lines of garbage pixels at the top. While there's still the complaint
about Wine's lib, the view appears nevertheless. Catia notices, but obviously
doesn't insist on a certified library.

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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Anastasius Focht  changed:

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--- Comment #17 from Anastasius Focht   2008-07-09 16:13:00 ---
Hello,

--- snip ---
..
wine: Call from 0x7b844e00 to unimplemented function
ntoskrnl.exe.IoRegisterShutdownNotification, aborting
wine: Unimplemented function ntoskrnl.exe.IoRegisterShutdownNotification called
at address 0x7b844e00 (thread 0030), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: unimplemented function
ntoskrnl.exe.IoRegisterShutdownNotification called in 32-bit code (0x7b844e76).
..
Module  Address                 Debug info      Name (29 modules)
PE        450000-  452940       Deferred        lumdriver.sys
..
wine: Call from 0x7b844e00 to unimplemented function
ntoskrnl.exe.IoReleaseCancelSpinLock, aborting
wine: Call from 0x7b844e00 to unimplemented function
ntoskrnl.exe.IoReleaseRemoveLockAndWaitEx, aborting
..
--- snip ---

That "lumdriver.sys" apparently belongs to IBM License Use Management (
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/lum/support.html) and is needed for
concurrent offline license mode.

This also tells a bit:
http://www.kxcad.net/catia/B17doc/English/online/basil_C2/basilLicensingOffl...

If I correctly understood you don't use the Catia V5Rxx software in concurrent
offline license mode where this stuff is needed?
To prevent the crash, you could disable the kernel driver in registry (services
key).
Otherwise it depends on the type/complexity of kernel driver (hardware access,
layered, number of kernel imports).
I can take a glance at the driver if you send me "lumdevdi.exe" and
"LUMDriver.sys" (packed in .zip file) to my email address.

Regards

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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Traumflug  changed:

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[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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Bug 10490 depends on bug 14481, which changed state.

Bug 14481 Summary: glViewport has no effect.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481

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         Resolution|                            |INVALID

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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--- Comment #18 from Traumflug   2008-07-19 15:51:04 ---
Big step forward. To approach the problem from the driver side I built Mesa
unoptimised and with -DDEBUG. After switching to this new libGL, Catia suddenly
rendered it's 3D view just fine. I could create a Part, add some geometry, view
and turn it and save this to a file.

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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Traumflug  changed:

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--- Comment #19 from Traumflug   2008-08-23 04:17:33 ---
As the 3D view works with the Mesa software renderer it's likely not a Wine
issue, but related to the Intel X driver. Please close this big.

[Bug 10490] Catia 3D view works in real Windows but not in Wine

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--- Comment #20 from Dan Kegel   2008-08-23 07:25:17 ---
You might want to file a bug against the Intel X driver
and put a link to it here, for reference...

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Dmitry Timoshkov  changed:

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--- Comment #21 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2008-08-23 08:21:51 ---
Closing invalid.

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--- Comment #22 from [e-mail]  2010-01-02 15:31:09 ---
(In reply to comment #21)
> Closing invalid.

I'm getting the same error message and non-working 3D view but I'm using either
the radeon or mesa driver. This is in a clean wineprefix.

When running this from a WinXP install inside Virtualbox (with Guest additions
installed and 3D acceleration on) I don't get the error message and the 3D view
works.
When copying openGL32.dll from this Virtualbox WinXP to my CATIA wineprefix I
don't get the error message, but the 3D view is all black (It seems I can
manipulate the 3D view but I'm not sure since I can't see if there's something
happening).