[Bug 13718] New: rubber banding at start of motion (not lag) in City of Heroes

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13718

Summary: rubber banding at start of motion (not lag) in City of
                    Heroes
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.0-rc3
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

In City of Heroes / City of Villains, it is frequently possible to get rubber
banding when attempting to move from a static location (unlike lag which is
inconsistent or an intermittent slow down, this is only being able to move a
couple steps and then being bounced back for the entire time the app is
running).

Using the same system with the same set of steps right afterwards or before
doesn't produce this affect in Cedega (which is likely irrelevant but thought
I'd note it anyways).  From the comments on the appdb page I'm led to believe
that this could be environment specific (me: Ubuntu 8.04 / Dell m1530 laptop
running game over wireless / nvidia graphics / all desktop effects disabled) to
a few people but I can replicate it.

Steps to reproduce:
1. Start City of Heroes/Villains via wine
2. Login to account, choose character
3. When loaded, attempt to move the character in any direction and you will be
bounced back to approximately where you started.  If you're able to super jump
out of the "rubber banding field" where you start, motion is normal and fluid
until you land / stop and a new rubber banding field is born.

Any insight as to what debug flags to try to help isolate would be appreciated.
 Thanks for your time.

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handsomepete  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from handsomepete   2008-06-09 08:58:00 ---
Looks like this was incidentally fixed in 1.0-rc4.  I can no longer replicate
it with that version, so thanks.

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--- Comment #2 from handsomepete   2008-06-10 12:04:27 ---
Sorry to close and reopen, but it does appear to be present in -rc4.  I hadn't
been able to get it to reoccur until this morning.  Bumped down to trivial,
will just hang tight until I can help debug this.  Thanks.

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Dmitry Timoshkov  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2008-06-10 23:11:24 ---
Please leave the version field alone.

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--- Comment #4 from Jesse L.   2008-06-15 07:13:45 ---
Kubuntu 8.04 - Dell Dimension 4600 - Nvidia Graphics - Wired Network - All
desktop Effects Disabled

Experience roughly the same as the original post, however in my experience a
lot of the time there will still be a bit of a backwards pull when
superjumping.
You can teleport just fine, it's only the movement that's not carrying through.

While Dualboxing I watched myself, and even when jumping out of the "rubberband
field " a lot of the time the jump doesn't carry through i.e. you cant see that
the person is jumping at all, so it would seem that CoH is losing the movement
controls.

An oddity I've noticed is that while superjumping if I'm still experiencing the
rubberbanding, if I try to go through all four directions (if I am going
forwards I strafe left, then go backwards then strafe right and then back to
forwards) it will stop any attempts to go back to the original location

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--- Comment #5 from Dan   2008-06-20 02:22:30 ---
Just got this bug. It is not latency related, and it is not the sync bug, as I
was moving around the mission (my pet moved when I did) and my netgraph was
completely flat (no lost packets or lag spikes). It's a client issue. Perhaps
the client is resetting your observed position to where you are on the server
before the server has updated your position?

I haven't been having the issue at all until just now after restarting the game
again. I restarted the game several times before without inducing it, and after
restarting two more times I no longer have the issue.

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--- Comment #6 from Dan   2008-06-22 14:04:43 ---
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

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--- Comment #7 from Dan   2008-08-17 02:52:43 ---
I have not gotten this issue since I have begun following this advice from Ben
in the comments section for the CoH page:

"I get this if I don't click on the small loading bar immediately after it
appears, as if there was some sort of focus issue going on."

Not sure if clicking is necessary, sometimes I move my mouse over the loading
bar and it disappears (as if going under the bar), then I move it back over
again and it shows up above it. Other times it shows up initially.

If I do get the rubberbanding issue after doing this I will followup here but
so far it looks like there is some relation (and a workaround) here.

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--- Comment #8 from handsomepete   2008-09-20 16:53:39 ---
I'm still testing, but this may have been permanently resolved by the work on
SetLayeredWindowAttributes (or something else, I'm just guessing) in 1.1.5. 
Can anyone else confirm?  So far so good for me.

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--- Comment #9 from handsomepete   2008-09-22 20:04:46 ---
I've tried and tried to recreate this problem and it appears to be fixed (and
cursors look normal again!) as of 1.1.5.  Unless there's objections, please
close as fixed.  Thanks.

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James Hawkins  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from James Hawkins   2008-09-22 20:08:30 ---
Reported fixed.

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Perry Vaughan  changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Perry Vaughan   2008-10-04 11:34:33 ---
defiantly not fixed. got it twice this week using 1.1.15 of wine

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--- Comment #12 from Austin English   2008-10-04 16:31:56 ---
Reopening then.

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--- Comment #13 from Leonidas Arvanitis   2008-10-26 06:25:47 ---
It still occurs using 1.1.7.
What I found as a solution is to skip the updater completely by running city of
heroes using:

wine "C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project coh

It seems to work every time now.

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--- Comment #14 from Evil   2008-12-06 15:11:58 ---
Just ran into this one too, with Wine 1.1.10 - since CoH is having a
free-weekend for previous subscribers.

I started the game earlier today, received all the new Issue 13 patches, then
proceeded to create a new character and played for a few hours with no problem.

Now, when I go back, I get the instant rubberbanding with any character I pick.
 You can't walk a single step, it's so consistent.  You can, oddly enough, jump
around the world successfully.

I tried the no patch idea Leonidas mentioned in the previous note, but it
appears to cause a segfault instead of starting the game - possibly due to
changes in the brand new Issue 13 patches.

Still beating on it to see if I can figure out a workaround.  :\

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--- Comment #15 from Dan   2008-12-06 16:45:26 ---
Did you try hovering your cursor over the LOADING banner until it appears over
it? Worked flawlessly in the past as a workaround but haven't tried it since
i13 came out.

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--- Comment #16 from Leonidas Arvanitis   2008-12-10 04:57:06 ---
The work around I mentioned in comment #14 does not work any more (after i13).
It seems they removed that command line argument from the client.

Hovering on the "Loading" banner, right after the updater, still works though.

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--- Comment #17 from Korey   2009-01-23 22:14:45 ---
I can confirm the bug: movement rubber bands, unless two directions are pressed
at once.  i.e. forward and left to move diagonal forward without rubberbanding,
and rubber banding doesn't reoccur until all the directional buttons are
released.

The workaround does seem to work.  Hovering the mouse over the "loading" window
until the main game window appears does seem to prevent the bug, for whatever
reason.

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--- Comment #18 from Korey   2009-01-23 22:18:27 ---
oh .. I'm using 1.0.1-0ubuntu2 in Ubuntu 8.10, which is apparently much older
than what everyone else is using.  But I hope the information about holding two
directional keys together helps.

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--- Comment #19 from Meklon   2009-02-12 07:39:48 ---
Temporary work around, try entering /sync into the chat box... seems to fix it
for about 10/15 mins for me.

Ubuntu 8.04 / WinE 1.1.14 / CoX EU.

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--- Comment #20 from Austin English   2009-08-13 13:02:55 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.27 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #21 from handsomepete   2009-08-13 13:59:26 ---
I'll try to test it again over the next day or two.  I'm fairly sure I've run
in to it in the past month or two when I took focus away from the loading
window on accident (clicking on the loading banner is habit now).

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--- Comment #22 from [e-mail]  2009-12-06 17:38:16 ---
Not sure if this is the same bug, it happens for me every time regardless of
the 'loading' bar trick.

The character does so much as rubber band as the  'jitter'.  I remember the bug
happening before; my character would take 3 seconds worth of movement then snap
back.  I could avert this by hovering cursor over loading bar.  Now the
character moves, but very slowly.  Not quite taking steps, but standing in
place and shaking or jittering.  If I jump then press the movement key then
movement is ok until I release the movement key, then the process starts over. 
Does this sound like the same bug ?  I recently upgraded software to Ubuntu
9.04-x64/nvidia 180.44 from Ubuntu 8.04-x64 I don't remember what drivers I was
at before.

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--- Comment #23 from Mark Wagner   2009-12-19 19:19:13 ---
(In reply to comment #21)
> I'll try to test it again over the next day or two.  I'm fairly sure I've run
> in to it in the past month or two when I took focus away from the loading
> window on accident (clicking on the loading banner is habit now).

I've encountered it twice recently, both times while running Wine 1.1.32

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--- Comment #24 from Mark Wagner   2010-01-28 23:17:51 ---
I can't reproduce this on demand, but I've found a symptom that strongly
correlates with the rubberbanding.  When the main game window is created, there
are three possibilities for what will happen:
1) The loading screen will draw.
2) A black screen will draw.
3) Nothing will draw.

If #1 happens, everything will be fine.  If #3 happens, the game will be stuck
in perpetual rubberbanding.  #2 seems to indicate rubberbanding, but I haven't
seen it often enough to be sure.

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--- Comment #25 from megadragon   2010-04-24 10:42:48 ---
I believe I have solved the Rubberbanding plague 
Under Nvidia Server Settings go to nvidia-settings config and remove all
checkmarks.
Remove Check from force full scaling
Arrow up to next tab: GPU scaling should be centered, digital vibrance and
overscan set to zero
Arrow up to Antialiasing settings and use application settings, no checks in
filtering and texture quality
Arrow up to OpemGL Settings put checks in Sync to Vblank and allow flipping,
image settings slider moved to MAX performance.
All other settings remain at default
Nvidia Gforce   9600 GSO SLI
Nvidia driver   195.36.15

Hope this works for all!!!

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--- Comment #26 from megadragon   2010-04-24 18:26:33 ---
(In reply to comment #25)
> I believe I have solved the Rubberbanding plague 
> Under Nvidia Server Settings go to nvidia-settings config and remove all
> checkmarks.
> Remove Check from force full scaling
> Arrow up to next tab: GPU scaling should be centered, digital vibrance and
> overscan set to zero
> Arrow up to Antialiasing settings and use application settings, no checks in
> filtering and texture quality
> Arrow up to OpemGL Settings put checks in Sync to Vblank and allow flipping,
> image settings slider moved to MAX performance.
> All other settings remain at default
> Nvidia Gforce   9600 GSO SLI
> Nvidia driver   195.36.15
>
> Hope this works for all!!!

4/24/10
FAIL FAIL FAIL
It worked for a while, I thought that reducing demand on the video cards other
services and increasing performance would be a solve...nack to the drawing
board.

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--- Comment #27 from Duane Robertson   2010-05-25 01:48:42 ---
Using the 1.2rc, compiled from git yesterday, the rubber-banding occurs every
time, unless I click on or hold the mouse cursor over the loading bar. Starting
the CityOfHeroes.exe directly does this, as does starting the updater. The
/sync command does nothing. I don't always see the same loading screen, so I
can't confirm or deny comment #24.

I can't for the life of me imagine why the loading bar trick would have any
effect, but it makes the game playable for now.

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--- Comment #28 from John  2011-08-12 16:12:10 CDT ---
I also have this rubber-banding problem.

I used this command in terminal to run CoH:
wine ./cityofheroes.exe -project "coh" -renderthread 0 -auth 64.25.36.4
or ./cohlaunch.pl -project "coh" -renderthread 0 -auth 64.25.36.4

I got a AMD: Radeon HD 4830 (RV770 LE) card

I am guessing that the problem is the Nvidia drivers that are blocking some
traffic? Is that the reason why I have to use "-auth 64.25.36.4" in the first
place?

Is there a way to auth these map server addresses?

64.25.36.27:7006
64.25.36.46:7036
64.25.36.31:7050

Here is an example of error text from my terminal:

Connecting to mapserver 64.25.36.22:7005 (UDP) cookie: 5ffbe2cd..Error calling
setsockopt, ending socket buffer size is not what we told it! (131072!=262142)
Error calling setsockopt, ending socket buffer size is not what we told it!
(131072!=262142)
Warning: Message from server, 57 (SERVER_TASK_STATUS), was sent before we are
receiving entity updates!

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--- Comment #29 from Quinn  2012-07-15 17:42:54 CDT ---
I am getting this bug very frequently.  I can sometimes clear it by restarting
my computer entirely- just restarting the CoH instance doesn't seem to help.

I am getting the same setsockopt errors and the warnings about receiving
various messages from the server before receiving entity updates.

I will be watching this page- not sure what other information would be helpful.

I am also getting a lot of "Lost connection to mapserver" issues as of the last
two days- I suspect a recent small update to CoH broke something.  Not sure if
that is related or not.  Will post that as a separate bug if it continues- my
BF, playing on a PC two feet away from me, does not have the same issue, so I
doubt it is the connection.

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--- Comment #30 from Austin English  ---
This is your friendly reminder  that there has been no bug activity for two
years. Is this still an issue in current (1.7.25 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #31 from Dan  ---
The game has been shut down so it's rather moot.

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--- Comment #32 from [e-mail] ---
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Heroes

"City of Heroes (CoH) was a massively multiplayer online role-playing game"

WAS

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--- Comment #33 from Austin English  ---
Abandoned.

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Closing abandoned bugs.