[Bug 18948] New: Spore, Sims 3: Only sound and cursor, no graphics, with intel cards

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18948

Summary: Spore, Sims 3: Only sound and cursor, no graphics,
                    with intel cards
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.1.23
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Spore and the sims 3 can be installed and loaded on computers with intel
graphic cards, however, they only show a black screen with the cursor, and
sounds. Playing around with the cursor and clicking shows that one can interact
with the menus, but there is no graphical output besides the cursor. I know,
though I havent tested it myself, that these games can be played in windows
with the same hardware.

I know Intel drivers haven't worked very good for some time now, but the latest
versions can handle native linux games like nexuiz and openarena very well.
What is it then, that doesnt allow this games to be properly displayed with
wine? Is it a wine problem, or is it the intel drivers that dont support
certain technologies that are needed?

My testing computer is an hp pavilion dv2000 with ~2500 mb RAM, an intel dual
core proccessor, and the video card appears listed as Mobile GM965/GL960
Integrated Graphics Controller. Though, I think this problem should be common
to many more games and intel cards.

I selected the wine version as 1.1.23, but I have used every version since
1.1.10 with the same result.

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Ken Sharp  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Mike Kaplinskiy   2009-06-14 17:55:20 ---
Anything older than i965 does not have GLSL support (due to no branching
support in the gpu, according to mesa). Wine defaults to GLSL, so try setting
UseGLSL=false . The games may also be using s3 texture compression, but I doubt
it. (there is a way to turn it on through libtxc-dxtn)

A log would be useful nonetheless.

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--- Comment #2 from Pablo Marchant   2009-06-14 18:09:56 ---
Ill try and put a log, but first I would like to try disabling GLSL. Where do I
modify that?? I cant find it in regedit...

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--- Comment #3 from Mike Kaplinskiy   2009-06-14 18:13:52 ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> Ill try and put a log, but first I would like to try disabling GLSL. Where do I
> modify that?? I cant find it in regedit...

http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D\UseGLSL="disabled"

What intel card do you have?

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--- Comment #4 from Pablo Marchant   2009-06-14 18:38:27 ---
My video card is an integrated intel GM965 card.

Modifying the registry, now gives me an error when starting The Sims 3 (dont
have a copy of Spore at hand so I cant check that one):

Starting the game is impossible. The 0 device cannot executed this title. Your
graphic card seems to not take Shader Model version 2 or ulterior. Please
update your card

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--- Comment #5 from Pablo Marchant   2009-06-14 19:00:56 ---
Sorry, GMA965 is actually the chipset of my card. The model is the GMA X3100
wich according to wikipedia supports shader model 4.0

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Sjors Gielen  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Sjors Gielen   2009-06-18 07:53:31 ---
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

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--- Comment #7 from Pablo Marchant   2009-06-19 23:48:09 ---
Created an attachment (id=21901)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=21901)
Trace of the program with GLSL enabled

This is the trace obtained by running the program. The program was terminated
by forcing the window to close, because it doesnt crash by its own, it simply
doesnt show a thing...

The output is mostly dominated by shader GLSL errors

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Mark hughes  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Mark hughes   2009-06-20 06:30:24 ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> Created an attachment (id=21901)

--> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=21901) [details]
> Trace of the program with GLSL enabled
>
> This is the trace obtained by running the program. The program was terminated
> by forcing the window to close, because it doesnt crash by its own, it simply
> doesnt show a thing...
>
> The output is mostly dominated by shader GLSL errors

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[e-mail] changed:

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--- Comment #9 from [e-mail]  2009-06-29 14:33:37 ---
I have the same problem trying to play Sims 3 with the Intel 4500.  My daughter
bought Sims 3 and is deparately waiting to play it.

Even without the shader problem it blacks out the screen during the install of
iTunes and double paints the Sims 3 installation dialog boxes.  Is there
something else I should test out also?

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--- Comment #10 from Pablo Marchant   2009-07-01 12:34:04 ---
I believe this bug is probably related to this other one in EVE online

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18074

There, graphics often fail to render, but menus appear. Also,
[e-mail] if you are affected by this bug you should vote for it so
it gets more attention.

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--- Comment #11 from Pablo Marchant   2009-07-01 12:43:50 ---
Also, this probably is a duplicate of:

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15380

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--- Comment #12 from [e-mail]  2009-07-18 10:53:17 ---
When I disable UseGLSL I get "System initialization failed (0x024e424f)".

The only place I see this listed is at hack sites but I have a legitimate copy
of the game.

My daughter wants me to replace Linux with Windows, just so she can play the
game.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  - thanks

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--- Comment #13 from Austin English   2010-07-23 15:49:53 ---
This is your friendly reminder  that there has been no bug activity for a year.
Is this still an issue in current (1.2 or newer) wine

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--- Comment #14 from Pablo Marchant   2010-07-23 16:12:44 ---
Regrettably, i'm no longer in possesion of a computer with an intel graphics
card in which to test this issue. Perhaps some of the other people who were
affected by this could conduct the testing.

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--- Comment #15 from evanh   2010-07-24 23:02:44 ---
Both bugs Pablo linked to look like duplicates.  People are still reporting it
as an issue.  However, they are lacking any detail as to whether they are using
Mesa driver or the Intel one.

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--- Comment #16 from Ivan Trombley   2010-07-28 16:41:05 ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> Both bugs Pablo linked to look like duplicates.  People are still reporting it
> as an issue.  However, they are lacking any detail as to whether they are using
> Mesa driver or the Intel one.

I'm experiencing this exact issue. Just to be clear about the mesa vs. Intel
driver: The mesa driver is unbearably slow, but the screen is not black. The
Intel (Tungsten) driver produces a black screen.

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--- Comment #17 from evanh   2010-07-31 10:48:30 ---
And when it's just the driver lacking required OpenGL features it's not really
a Wine issue, right?

Mesa, of course, is expected to be slow.  I'm rather impressed it works.

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--- Comment #18 from Ivan Trombley   2010-07-31 17:50:14 ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> And when it's just the driver lacking required OpenGL features it's not really
> a Wine issue, right?

Which features is it lacking?
> Mesa, of course, is expected to be slow.  I'm rather impressed it works.

Works is a relative term, especially when you get one frame like every minute.
:)

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--- Comment #19 from evanh   2010-08-01 03:38:32 ---
Mesa is truly emulating.  Speed suffers.

As for what feature not in the Intel driver - shader function would be number
one on that list.  No shader, no picture, Eve has no fall-back any longer.

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--- Comment #20 from evanh   2010-08-07 15:08:21 ---
Please mark as duplicate of http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15380

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--- Comment #21 from Pablo Marchant   2010-08-07 18:06:01 ---
Previous bug report on the same issue exists.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 15380 ***

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--- Comment #22 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2010-08-08 00:37:47 ---
Closing duplicate.