[Bug 13847] New: field content not visible

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13847

Summary: field content not visible
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.0-rc4
          Platform: PC
               URL: http://realfast.com/associations/nc/ncnca/ncnca.html
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=13905)
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example of non-displaying text

[bug 5070 contains some of the original comments for this bug -- creating a
separate bug to track it properly]

Real Estate forms package (commercial) from RealFa$t (realfast.com) originally
available on Win95 (earlier?) uses its own "desktop" to manage its windows. 
For each form which is opened, the app opens two windows: one with the full
text and another with a summary.  If the problem was reversed (text visible on
full text version), this bug would be less aggravating :)

Data can be entered into fields on either representation of a form and appears
on both.  In Wine, the full text version of the form will never display field
text unless that field is the currently selected one.  One exception is a
checkbox field.  (see attached screenshot)

In the screenshot, with both form representations visible, only the selected
field displays the field content (identified with green arrows) while the main
form does not display the field text (identified with red dots).

If there is a way to change text colors, I haven't located it yet...  Thanks!

[Bug 13847] field content not visible in Realfast Forms

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Lei Zhang  changed:

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Austin English  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Austin English   2008-12-19 16:08:59 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.10 or newer) wine?

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Zack Smith  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Zack Smith   2009-05-05 07:11:11 ---
Testing with Wine 1.1.20 and RealFast 6.16 on Ubuntu 8.10 confirms this bug is
still present under all of Wine's Windows modes. Text typed by a user in any of
the form fields is only visible while that field is currently active; the text
then disappears from view when a user tabs to the next field.

Note, however, that the text doesn't *actually* get removed from the form, it
merely *disappears* from view of the user, making for an aggravating time
filling in form fields and proofing them.

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--- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin   2009-10-13 09:10:20 ---
Created an attachment (id=24077)
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screen shot of problem

In this screen shot, updating one pane automatically updates the other.  The
form is the same document with the left pane showing full document text, and
right showing a quick-fill summary.  Note that the quick-fill version displays
field contents as expected, while the left one only shows the contents when
that field is selected -- exceptions are those fields which allow up to 60
lines of input (that's why some fields in the left pane show the content).

Is there some debugging someone can suggest to help resolve this ancient bug?

I'm very irritated with Windows on a colleagues PC (refuses to re-install to
factory state).  Fixing this bug would allow me to install Wine on Linux for
her.
This forms package is critical to her livelihood.  If the bug was on the
quick-fill side, we could live with it...  :)

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Nikolay Sivov  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin   2009-10-13 09:13:19 ---
Sorry... this attachment is PNG...

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--- Comment #5 from Pierre Fortin   2009-10-13 09:17:47 ---
Argh...  forgot to mention:
$ wine --version
wine-1.1.31

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Pierre Fortin  changed:

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Nikolay Sivov  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Nikolay Sivov   2009-10-13 09:31:26 ---
Comment is enough. Don't change original version please.

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--- Comment #7 from Zack Smith   2009-10-13 15:38:34 ---
Pierre,

Just giving an update here and providing a not-so-great workaround for the
RealFa$t display problems. I'm still watching this bug and testing new Wine
builds against RealFa$t (NCAR) on Debian, with results same as you have found.
I have some agents in the office wanting to move to Ubuntu later this year, and
this glitch is stalling that transition. We've decided, as a workaround until
this is able to be fixed, to use XP in a VM instead - solely to use RealFa$t
(and Formulator products as well). It's a dirty option that I don't like, but
it *is* a method of using this app within a Linux window at this moment.

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--- Comment #8 from Austin English   2009-10-13 15:56:14 ---
Terminal output would help.

Does native riched20 make any difference?

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--- Comment #9 from Pierre Fortin   2009-10-13 17:59:16 ---
Created an attachment (id=24108)
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Log of session

Sparsely annotated log of minimal session -- hope there's something of value
therein...

Zack, I didn't find you in the NCREC database -- are you an NC broker?  As to
Windows in a VM:  the machine I'm trying to restore for my BiC is already hosed
re WinXP...  the recovery partition seems to have bad/wrong files...  IBM
stupidly zipped them with a dumb password -- trying to re-write them without
protection to see if I an re-install XP...  so putting XP in a VM would just be
an extra aggravation she doesn't need...  getting this bug fixed would be a
God-send...

Austin, can you whack me with a slightly larger clue stick?  :)   Thanks!

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--- Comment #10 from Zack Smith   2009-10-13 19:44:44 ---
Pierre,

I'm working with a real estate company in Boone, NC to assist those agents
wishing to move to the Linux platform. I'm not an agent/broker myself (I work
in IT). Not having real estate forms software titles that will run on the *nix
platform has limited the number of agents willing to switch operating systems,
and I'm attempting to use Wine to remedy that (since most forms software is
relatively simple in their design).

I believe Austin is asking whether or not using the Windows' native
"riched20.dll" changes the behavior of RealFast in Wine, versus using only
Wine's implementation of that library. I'm not at a machine I can test this at
the moment, but I'll try as soon as I am.

If you don't know how to override Wine's DLLs, see section 3.1.2 of this page:

http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/config-wine-main

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--- Comment #11 from Austin English   2009-10-13 22:08:01 ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> Austin, can you whack me with a slightly larger clue stick?  :)   Thanks!

$ wget kegel.com/wine/winetricks && sh winetricks -q riched20

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--- Comment #12 from Pierre Fortin   2009-10-14 10:42:38 ---
Created an attachment (id=24126)
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log of winetricks

Tried adding riched20.dll manually last night -- no change.

Running your script made no difference either...  :(

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Bruno Jesus  changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Bruno Jesus  2012-04-14 16:40:48 CDT ---
Download no longer works. Looks like realfast was acquired by other company.
Does anyone have the original files or can provide a new download link?
Otherwise this is likely abandoned.

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--- Comment #14 from Zack Smith  2012-04-15 00:45:31 CDT ---
Bruno,

Realfast has indeed been sold to zipLogix, and downloads are no longer
available since the product is no longer supported. This bug report should
probably be closed.

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Austin English  changed:

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         Resolution|                            |ABANDONED

--- Comment #15 from Austin English  2012-04-15 13:25:15 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> Bruno,
>
> Realfast has indeed been sold to zipLogix, and downloads are no longer
> available since the product is no longer supported. This bug report should
> probably be closed.

Abandoned then.

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Frédéric Delanoy  changed:

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--- Comment #16 from Frédéric Delanoy  2012-04-30 14:41:05 CDT ---
Closing ABANDONED bugs