[Bug 55556] New: Contradicting support for Intel Arc GPUs while not supporting DXVK in AppDB and/or Bugzilla
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55556
Bug ID: 55556 Summary: Contradicting support for Intel Arc GPUs while not supporting DXVK in AppDB and/or Bugzilla Product: WineHQ Apps Database Version: unspecified Hardware: x86-64 OS: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: appdb-unknown Assignee: wine-bugs@winehq.org Reporter: linards.liepins@gmail.com Distribution: ---
As per https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gpu-driver-optimizations-leverage-va..., the Intel Arc drivers are already using/bundling-ion DXVK to handle DX9 APIs.
That means that if you support Intel Arc GPUs as GPU option, you automatically support DXVK as well ( because Wine uses kernel driver as-is, correct? ). That meanst that not accepting buzilla bugs with DXVK is wrong/offernsive/unfriendly.
If that isa not true, then PLEASE fix the AppDB and Bugzilla to have conditional handling of Intel GPU and non-Intel-GPU options and educate the maintainers/reviewers accordingly.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55556
Zeb Figura z.figura12@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Zeb Figura z.figura12@gmail.com --- I fail to see how Windows Direct3D drivers have anything to do with Wine?
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Olivier F. R. Dierick o.dierick@piezo-forte.be changed:
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--- Comment #2 from Olivier F. R. Dierick o.dierick@piezo-forte.be --- Hello,
The AppDB is intended for users to report how good they can get their applications to work with Wine, with or without workarounds and third-party software. This is useful information for users that just want their specific applications to work no matter what.
Bugzilla is intended for developers, whose only goal is to make Wine generically better at running Windows applications, without hacks for specific applications or external dependencies (Contrary to Valve, Crossover and other Wine derivatives that give priority to application support and have to quickly provide all sorts of hacks, until a proper generic fix is implemented in Wine).
So there is a valid and objective reason why the policies differ between the AppDB and Bugzilla.
Wine doesn't support GPU drivers differently than other dependencies. If the issue lies in a dependency, the bug will be marked NOTOURBUG.
DXVK is not a GPU driver regardless of the internal workings of Intel drivers. It's not a dependency. It's a drop-in replacement of WineD3D and is so treated as a third-party software, which also includes native DLL and custom Wine patches.
The policy requires issues to be reported without the use of such third-party software, otherwise they are deemed INVALID. It's not wrong, offensive or unfriendly. There is a valid reason behind that policy. The Wine developers should not have to deal or care about external interference between Wine and the applications affected by issues.
When someone states that your setup is not supported, that means that you have to retest without the third-party software. If you make no effort to comply to the policy and get you bug report valid, the bug will be rightfully closed.
Regards.
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