[Bug 41637] New: Altium Designer 16: Wineserver stuck / not responding since 1.9.2*

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41637

Bug ID: 41637
           Summary: Altium Designer 16: Wineserver stuck / not responding
                    since 1.9.2*
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.9.22
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: wineserver
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

Altium Designer 16 stopped working since Wine 1.9.2* / Arch Linux 64.

After updating from Wine 1.9.19 to 1.9.22, neither Altium 16.1.12 in present
prefixes, nor Altium installer in new prefixes starts anymore. Instead,
/usr/bin/wineserver gets stuck at full cpu load and does not react to
wineserver -k or SIGTERM.

What was also done:
- purge and reinstall of Wine and all dependencies
- switch of Wine-staging 1.9.21
- log in as different (new) user
- downgrading to Wine 1.9.20
- setup of a chroot environment on a second hdd with nothing more than Xorg,
drivers and Wine / dependencies
... without improvement of the situation

Link to the recent Altium installer:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/altium-release-manager/Altium_Designer_16/AltiumDes...

In general, Wine seems to work, which was tested with Notepad++ from:
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/download/v7.1.html

[Bug 41637] Altium Designer 16: Wineserver stuck / not responding since 1.9.2*

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--- Comment #1 from alex freudenberg  ---
Created attachment 56011
  --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=56011
Debug output / WINEDEBUG=+server

The last couple lines of debug outpug before wineserver gets stuck. Executed
command was:

env WINEARCH=win32 WINEDEBUG=+server ./AltiumDesignerSetup_16_1_12.exe

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--- Comment #2 from alex freudenberg  ---
Building Wine 1.9.22 from source on Arch Linux 64 results in the same issue.

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--- Comment #3 from alex freudenberg  ---
The issue occurs from kernel 4.8.3-1-ARCH onwards. Last working kernel version
is 4.8.2-1-ARCH.

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--- Comment #4 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #3)
> The issue occurs from kernel 4.8.3-1-ARCH onwards. Last working kernel
> version is 4.8.2-1-ARCH.

Wine bugs are rarely fixed updating or downgrading a kernel. The best thing you
could do is regressions testing wine against the broken application.

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--- Comment #5 from alex freudenberg  ---
Thanks. With mentioned kernel 4.8.3-1-ARCH I already tested Wine 1.9.22 down to
1.9.19 without any improvement. Should I go backwards further?

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--- Comment #6 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #5)
> Thanks. With mentioned kernel 4.8.3-1-ARCH I already tested Wine 1.9.22 down
> to 1.9.19 without any improvement. Should I go backwards further?

https://wiki.winehq.org/Regression_Testing

This is how you supposed to find the commit(s) that broke the program. Knowing
wine version it works isnt accurate enough. It's not that hard and you can also
speed up the compile time.

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--- Comment #7 from [e-mail] ---
Same issue with Altium Designer 15 here

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--- Comment #8 from alex freudenberg  ---
In contrast to my first statement, I have to admit that this bug is definitely
independent from the Wine version. In preparation of regression testing, I was
not able to find a Wine release that runs Altium Designer on kernel
4.8.3-1-ARCH or later. After downgrading to kernel 4.8.2-1-ARCH, any Wine
version from recent releases down to 1.6.* works!

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--- Comment #9 from [e-mail] ---
Really weird then. I have seen only 2 kernel related bugs at this bug tracker.
One was related to far cry fog and one was related to 16/32 bit programs not
working anymore on certain versions of kernels since they disabled some support
at kernel side.

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--- Comment #10 from Eugene Savelov  ---
Having examined linux patch-4.8.3, I found some changes to ptrace API, does
wine use it?  I found some earlier issues with wine regarding it - could this
be related?
Can't think of anything else that may affect wine in mostly hardware-related
stuff contained in linux kernel patch.

diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.c b/arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.c
index f79576a541ff..a1606eadd9ce 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.c
@@ -173,8 +173,8 @@ unsigned long kernel_stack_pointer(struct pt_regs *regs)
                return sp;

prev_esp = (u32 *)(context);
-       if (prev_esp)
-               return (unsigned long)prev_esp;
+       if (*prev_esp)
+               return (unsigned long)*prev_esp;

return (unsigned long)regs;
 }

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--- Comment #11 from Eugene Savelov  ---
according to https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2012/02/06/use-of-ptrace/
wine is a valid user of ptrace (in addition to gdb, strace, ltrace)

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            Summary|Altium Designer 16:         |Delphi: Wineserver stuck /
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                   |responding since 1.9.2*     |linux-4.8.3

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--- Comment #12 from Matteo Bruni  ---
(In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #3)
> The issue occurs from kernel 4.8.3-1-ARCH onwards. Last working kernel
> version is 4.8.2-1-ARCH.

It would be nice if someone wants to give a shot at bisecting the kernel
between 4.8.2 and 4.8.3 to find the commit which broke it. You need to be able
and willing to build your own kernel but it's not too complicated, if a bit
distro-dependent. There are a number of guides on the web which should help
with that.

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--- Comment #13 from alex freudenberg  ---
89eeba1594ac641a30b91942961e80fae978f839 is the commit that made the
difference:

http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/diff/?h=...

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--- Comment #14 from Jeff D. Hanson  ---
Encountering this also.
Wine Staging 1.9.23
Xubuntu 14.04 x86_64
AltiumDesignerSetup_16_1_12.exe

Can't even SIGKILL wineserver when it occurs.

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--- Comment #15 from Jeff D. Hanson  ---
FYI, I tested Saturn PCB Toolkit on Wine Staging 1.9.23 and it didn't have any
problems.  It's known to use Delphi (bug #39792).
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13578

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--- Comment #16 from Jeff D. Hanson  ---
Created attachment 56335
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Altium 16.1.2 installer

Installer only.  Requires Altium account login before it will install anything.

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--- Comment #17 from Jeff D. Hanson  ---
My Xubuntu 14.04 kernel on the system affected by this bug:

Linux … 3.13.0-105-generic #152-Ubuntu SMP Fri Dec 2 15:37:11 UTC 2016 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

If it's a 4.8.3 patch that's causing it then it may have been backported to
14.04 by Ubuntu.  I'll try some earlier kernels to verify.

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--- Comment #18 from Jeff D. Hanson  ---
On Xubuntu 14.04 x86_64, kernel 3.13.0-98-generic #145-Ubuntu
(linux-image-3.13.0-98-generic) is the last working version.

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--- Comment #19 from Erich E. Hoover  ---
(In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #13)
> 89eeba1594ac641a30b91942961e80fae978f839 is the commit that made the
> difference:
>
> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/diff/
> ?h=v4.8.
> 3&id=89eeba1594ac641a30b91942961e80fae978f839&id2=0312017cbbb5f46dbf4932f65df
> 0c2c66f9c8f27

Has anyone posted on the kernel mailing list to ask for help?  This tacitly
looks like the kernel may be requiring additional permissions for the requested
action.

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--- Comment #20 from Matteo Bruni  ---
(In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #13)
> 89eeba1594ac641a30b91942961e80fae978f839 is the commit that made the
> difference:

Cool, thank you for the regression test. Did you doublecheck that everything
works fine with 4.8.3 and the patch reverted (assuming that the patch reverts
cleanly?)

(In reply to Jeff D. Hanson from comment #16)
> Created attachment 56335 [details]
> Altium 16.1.2 installer

I don't think we want copyrighted binaries here in bugzilla.

(In reply to Erich E. Hoover from comment #19)
> Has anyone posted on the kernel mailing list to ask for help?  This tacitly
> looks like the kernel may be requiring additional permissions for the
> requested action.

Not yet, it seems. Do you want to take charge of it?

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--- Comment #21 from alex freudenberg  ---
(In reply to Matteo Bruni from comment #20)
> (In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #13)
> > 89eeba1594ac641a30b91942961e80fae978f839 is the commit that made the
> > difference:
>
> Cool, thank you for the regression test. Did you doublecheck that everything
> works fine with 4.8.3 and the patch reverted (assuming that the patch
> reverts cleanly?)

Yes, I took kernel 4.8.3 and reverted the changes from the commit in question
and - at least Altium Designer - works again.

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--- Comment #22 from Erich E. Hoover  ---
(In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #21)
> ...
> Yes, I took kernel 4.8.3 and reverted the changes from the commit in
> question and - at least Altium Designer - works again.

Since you already have some familiarity with the issue, would you mind starting
an LKML thread about this?  I am happy to be CC'd on it to do what I can to
help solve the problem.

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--- Comment #23 from alex freudenberg  ---
(In reply to Erich E. Hoover from comment #22)
> (In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #21)
> > ...
> > Yes, I took kernel 4.8.3 and reverted the changes from the commit in
> > question and - at least Altium Designer - works again.
>
> Since you already have some familiarity with the issue, would you mind
> starting an LKML thread about this?  I am happy to be CC'd on it to do what
> I can to help solve the problem.

Still no response from LKML.

It is possible, though, to revert the two changes made by patch-4.8.2-3 in
static struct page *follow_page_pte of mm/gup.c in recent kernel versions to
make Wine work again. Currently, I'm running kernel 4.8.13 with that applied. I
will prepare a patch for those who want to build a custom kernel.

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--- Comment #24 from alex freudenberg  ---
Patches for recent kernels are available here:
https://github.com/baldrianbandit/linux-kernel-wineserver-fix

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--- Comment #25 from Joachim Priesner  ---
Note that the kernel commit in question is the fix for the "Dirty COW"
vulnerability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_COW). Reverting it will
probably make the system vulnerable again.

The LKML thread in question is https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/12/20/150

I am currently trying to investigate the issue as well, but don't expect quick
results :)

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--- Comment #26 from Joachim Priesner  ---
I identified the root cause of the issue, turns out someone submitted a fix to
LKML a few days ago: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/1/5/13

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--- Comment #27 from Jeff D. Hanson  ---
Ubuntu bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1658270

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--- Comment #28 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Jeff D. Hanson from comment #27)
> Ubuntu bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1658270

Fix was committed few distros already.

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--- Comment #29 from Matteo Bruni  ---
Let's RESOLVE this as NOTOURBUG for the time being. As far as I understand the
referenced kernel patch is in 4.10-rc6 and was backported to 4.9.7. If someone
can confirm that the affected applications work fine with one of those kernels
we can also close this bug.

Thank you to all the people involved with discovering and fixing this bug!

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--- Comment #30 from Joachim Priesner  ---
I can confirm that Altium 16.1.2. installer works fine on kernel 4.9.7 while on
the same system running kernel 4.9.6 it exhibits the symptoms described in this
bug report.

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--- Comment #31 from alex freudenberg  ---
And I can confirm that Altium Designer 17.0.6 runs fine with kernel
4.9.7-1-ARCH. Wineserver reacts as expected, too!

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--- Comment #32 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #31)
> And I can confirm that Altium Designer 17.0.6 runs fine with kernel
> 4.9.7-1-ARCH. Wineserver reacts as expected, too!

But this is still a NOTOURBUG resolution rather than FIXED since the bug was
upstream (the Linux kernel). Could I ask you to change it back to "RESOLVED
NOTOURBUG", please?

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         Resolution|FIXED                       |NOTOURBUG

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--- Comment #33 from Austin English  ---
(In reply to alex freudenberg from comment #31)
> And I can confirm that Altium Designer 17.0.6 runs fine with kernel
> 4.9.7-1-ARCH. Wineserver reacts as expected, too!

Fixed upstream