[Bug 28286] New: Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start - regression

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28286

Summary: Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start - regression
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.3.26
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: winealsa.drv
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Backyard Baseball 2001 used to start just fine. Now it gets an error message
saying that "Sound Card not detected" and aborts starting the game.

8129b1847a13be248098b8d8ec773f8bdf821df6 is the first bad commit
commit 8129b1847a13be248098b8d8ec773f8bdf821df6
Author: Jörg Höhle 
Date:   Tue Aug 9 21:19:51 2011 +0200

winealsa: Pulse knows handle_underrun only since 2010-07-09.

:040000 040000 5147fcfe6d5b308d25d065f9c4f31dba00902190
b96d7b019480e891b8fb3ee29661820678c5d72d M    dlls

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start - regression

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[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

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[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28286

--- Comment #1 from Jörg Höhle  2011-09-06 06:02:15 CDT ---
Please add a WINEDEBUG=+tid,+mmdevapi,+alsa,+winmm,+driver log.
You say that the error appeared with wine-1.3.26 but you identified a commit
that was not present in wine-1.3.26.  How comes?
Does it work with 1.3.26?

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28286

--- Comment #2 from Don Pobanz  2011-09-06 13:34:48 CDT ---
Created an attachment (id=36259)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=36259)
Wine Debug

Attached is a wine debug as requested.

And the program runs successfully in Wine 1.3.26. My bad on reporting the first
bad version. It should have been 1.3.27. The bisect informtion in "comment 1"
is corret.

For this debug, I used the lastest version of wine from git 
wine-1.3.27-270-gb7ea631

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

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[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

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--- Comment #3 from Jörg Höhle  2011-09-07 06:08:18 CDT ---
In short: the ugly PulseAudio underrun bug raises its head again :-(
-- exactly what Andrew Eikum feared in bug #28040, comment #3.

You appear to be using a machine with PulseAudio not recent enough to support
the handle_underrun parameter added mid 2010. The logs says:
ALSA lib pcm_pulse.c:1008:(_snd_pcm_pulse_open) Unknown field handle_underrun
AUDDRV_GetAudioEndpoint Opening PCM device "default" with handle_underrun: -22

wine-1.3.26 would simply refuse to use it.  As the app (or is it Wine?) appears
to scan all audio devices:
AUDDRV_GetAudioEndpoint "default" 0x1376b0 0 0xbae7ac
AUDDRV_GetAudioEndpoint "hw:0,0" 0x137780 0 0xbae7ac
1.3.26 would presumably use hw:0 instead and be happy.  You can test that by
checking whether other Linux apps (e.g. speaker-test) can still produce sound
while Wine grabs hw:0, assuming your card "HDA ATI SB - ALC260 Analog" does not
support mixing.

Wine-1.3.27 will accept to use PulseAudio, because not all versions of
PulseAudio are affected.  E.g. the older Ubuntu Intrepid (2008) is not affected
by the underrun bug, Ubuntu Lucid (2010) is.
Your machine is likely subject to the bug, audio hangs upon underrun, and you
get no sound.  What is the OS you are using?

Note that I have no explanation for the "Sound Card not detected" message (my
suspicion is that PA clings to the hw device for a few seconds, thus preventing
others from using it, particularly in scenarios like device enumeration...)
Does wine-1.3.25 behave exactly like 1.3.27?

What's not in wine-1.3.27 is the following message:
+     ERR("PulseAudio "%s" %d without handle_underrun. Audio may hang."
+          " Please upgrade to alsa_plugins > 1.0.24\n", key, err);
which is the recommended advice.  Please look whether a newer PulseAudio (or
rather the ALSA plugins package) is available for your system, perhaps as a
backport.

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28286

--- Comment #4 from Don Pobanz  2011-09-07 20:15:09 CDT ---
> 1.3.26 would presumably use hw:0 instead and be happy.  
> You can test that by checking whether other Linux apps 
> (e.g. speaker-test) can still produce sound

Whenever this app is being used, it goes full sreen and so there are no other
apps being used. I don't know whether another app could use sound at that time.
> What is the OS you are using?

ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) with all updates applied.
> Does wine-1.3.25 behave exactly like 1.3.27?

I don't know if we have used 1.3.25. Is that something that would be beneficial
to know. If that would be usedful, I can compile 1.3.25 and try it.
> Please look whether a newer PulseAudio (or rather the ALSA plugins 
> package) is available for your system, perhaps as a backport.

I'm not sure how to do this. Would this be different than updating ubuntu
release through "update manager"?

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

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--- Comment #5 from Jörg Höhle  2011-09-12 08:59:15 CDT ---
Launchpad
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+bug/805940
mentions a custom package, presumably without the bug
http://people.canonical.com/~trellis/alsa/libasound2-plugins_1.0.22-0ubuntu6...
that seems to be for Ubuntu Lucid.
> it goes full sreen

You can either
- use ctrl-alt-F1 - F6 to switch to a text console, login and issue
speaker-test
speaker-test -Dpulse
speaker-test -Dplughw:0,0
or some other device
- ctrl-alt-right or left (in metacity/gnome) to switch to another screen,
depending on how the app went full screen.

You can also tell the app to open a virtual desktop and not get full screen.
> I can compile 1.3.25 and try it

Please do.  We appreciate precise findings & reports because not everybody
experiences the same issues.

Does winecfg's test sound button cause it to hang on your machine?

If you can't either upgrade PulseAudio/alsa_plugins or use another package
without the bug, I believe all that is left is to add Wine registry settings to
not use the default device and force winealsa to use a working one, e.g.
"plughw:0,0".
http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys?highlight=(Alsa%20Driver)
Drawback: exclusive access to HW implies no more mixing as long as Wine is
running.  Using "plug:dmix" might not be better because no other app on your
Ubuntu machine may still use dmix.

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28286

--- Comment #6 from Jörg Höhle  2011-10-03 15:52:20 CDT ---
Did you test any Wine release since then? Audio initialisation changed a lot
with each one.
Please report your findings about any of the additional tests (e.g. use virtual
desktop in winecfg instead of full screen, use the "test audio" button, change
registry etc.)

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28286

--- Comment #7 from Don Pobanz  2011-10-03 19:14:44 CDT ---
This bug is fixed. Thanks!

I updated from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and that made it possible to run the game,
although a sound error box would sometimes pop up (but only once) during a
session. OKing the box made it go away and it played normally.

Yesterday wine was updated to 
wine-1.3.29-121-gfdda702
So far, the game plays perfectly.

Here is the terminal output. 
james@hp-desktop-201009:~$ wine
"/home/kids/.wine/dosdevices/c:/hegames/Baseball2001/baseball 2001.exe"
fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 32 channels,
pretending there's only 2 channels
fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 10000 channels,
pretending there's only 2 channels
fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 32 channels,
pretending there's only 2 channels
fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 10000 channels,
pretending there's only 2 channels

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

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--- Comment #8 from Austin English  2011-10-04 01:49:39 CDT ---
Fixed.

[Bug 28286] Backyard Baseball 2001 won't start

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Alexandre Julliard  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Alexandre Julliard  2011-10-10 13:11:32 CDT ---
Closing bugs fixed in 1.3.30.