[Bug 37531] New: HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

Bug ID: 37531
           Summary: HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks
           Product: Wine
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: x86
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

what I'm trying to do is dump my 500GB HDD onto my 1TB HDD by opening the 500GB
in either HxD or HexEdit and saving it as a file on the 1TB.

HxD only sees my C drive and 5 logical disks (all reporting "Bad Device Type")

HexEdit sees my 500GB E drive, but needs administrative privileges to open it.

first place I looked up on google told me to report a bug...
if you need downloads:
HxD: http://mh-nexus.de/en/downloads.php?product=HxD
HexEdit: http://www.4shared.com/file/VRaD3TtAce/HexEditPro4_0.html?
(sorry for 4Shared, http://www.hexeditpro.com no longer exists)

why do I want/need this type of access?
My 500GB was corrupted by ChkDsk (every file is 0KB in size) (that's ~300GB of
IMPORTANT data not being looked at)
I havn't touched it, so I know the data is still there, however, the drive
is/was compressed.

I want a raw image so I can format the drive and not have to worry about loss
of data. (as I can recover from the image)

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

--- Comment #1 from Austin English  ---
You should really be using native tools for this, not wine.

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

--- Comment #2 from Tcll  ---
I gave a few shots on USC and Google...
USC has nothing, and I havn't seen anything on Google that can dump a raw
image...
(not saying there isn't anything, I just can't find it)

If not Wine, then what could I use to get an exact byte dump of my 500GB??
(I don't want a program with a disk dump in it's own format)

I'm expecting ISO or IMG format (exactly how the data is on the disk)

thanks
___

Why Wine in the first place?
the only software I really trust for this purpose is hex editors.
(almost any disk backup utility saves either the files on the disk, or saves in
it's own format that can't be read by any other program)
^anything here is useless for what I need to do

Linux doesn't have any decent hex editors, few of them can't even perform like
simple HxD.
and none of them (including wxHexEditor) can even compare to HexEdit, though
there are better that aren't free (not sure if they support linux)
___

if all else fails, perhapse I could build an img dumper >_>

but even still, back to the original topic...
I'm supposed to already have admin privs, and HxD can't even open the drives...
so this is still a major issue.

I'm reporting this simply because: http://wiki.winehq.org/Bugs

You should report a bug when:

- Wine doesn't run a program the same way as Windows does

this is overridden when something is beyond advanced such as Visual Studio.
but HxD is extremely basic, and it's portable.
(the program itself is a single file with no dependencies other than anything
in system32/)

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

--- Comment #3 from Austin English  ---
(In reply to Tcll from comment #2)
> I gave a few shots on USC and Google...
> USC has nothing, and I havn't seen anything on Google that can dump a raw
> image...
> (not saying there isn't anything, I just can't find it)
>
> If not Wine, then what could I use to get an exact byte dump of my 500GB??
> (I don't want a program with a disk dump in it's own format)
>
> I'm expecting ISO or IMG format (exactly how the data is on the disk)

dd

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

[e-mail] changed:

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--- Comment #4 from [e-mail] ---
Do you understand that wine isn't operating system. Some functions aren't
expected ever to work with wine.

To get your program working with wine can take years if not all.

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

--- Comment #5 from [e-mail] ---
Most likely you should use live iso and some repair program. Or dd to copy
files.

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

--- Comment #6 from Tcll  ---
> To get your program working with wine can take years if not all.

I understand Wine is basically an emulator. ;)

but as for this, I can understand something simple taking a while to
implement...
I'm running into those problems myself with my own program...
heck I just had to completely rebuild my formatting interface a 3rd time (and
hopefully the last)

well... I'm no linux expert, I come from knowing everything (over-exaggerating)
about WindowsXP

I understand linux majorly lacks in decent software as well... 
but idk what IS available, if someone could plz give me info to fulfill exactly
what I need.

I would help out with Wine development if I knew a thing or 2 about C or C++
but again, I do work on my own program (in Python), so I've kinda got my hands
tied up there.

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

--- Comment #7 from Tcll  ---
> Most likely you should use live iso and some repair program. Or dd to copy files.

thanks

oh, I was unsure about 'dd' in the last dude's comment
wasn't sure if that was an acro or something

but if that just copies files, then I most likely wouldn't want it as it would
just copy 0KB in about 140000 files of various programs, installers, game-rips,
images, etc. etc.
(including my last latest code for my program (that's why I said IMPORTANT))

roughly 300GB is now 0KB in blank files
I've always hated ChkDsk, and couldn't stop it from taking 4 days to forcefully
delete my 500GB HDD

I'm so glad I switched to linux ^_^
that's one nightmare I'll never have to worry about again.

I just hope I can get my data back

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

Tcll  changed:

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            Version|unspecified                 |1.7.30
       Distribution|---                         |Ubuntu

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

--- Comment #8 from Tcll  ---
updated the bug info to get the categorizations down a bit better...
hopefully that'll help out a bit ;)

also, I've marked the hardware as x86 because I'm using an x86 prefix
the hardware itself is x64

if this confuses you guys, I'm sorry
I was told to use an x86 prefix because x64 has many major compatibility
issues.
(another thing I can understand because MS likes to be major douchy with
various support)

also, don't think I think negatively about wine, it's extremely great when it
comes to support, and is only getting better ;)

and with the fact Windows is closed src, that only makes things 15x more
difficult to predict support ;)

don't let me bring you guys down, I'm only reporting a major issue with a
widely used feature among hex editors, and providing a purpose for needing a
fix.
no keep going guys, you're doing great, and I have patience for however long it
takes to fix it. (if it can be fixed) ;)

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access disks

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

[e-mail] changed:

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                 CC|                            |[e-mail],
                   |                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access raw disk/partitions via ' \\\\.\\PhysicalDriveX'

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

Anastasius Focht  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |NEW
           Keywords|                            |download
                URL|                            |https://web.archive.org/web
                   |                            |/20190403125220/https://mh-
                   |                            |nexus.de/downloads/HxDSetup
                   |                            |EN.zip
            Summary|HxD and HexEdit fail to     |HxD and HexEdit fail to
                   |access disks                |access raw disk/partitions
                   |                            |via '\\.\PhysicalDriveX'
     Ever confirmed|0                           |1

--- Comment #9 from Anastasius Focht  ---
Hello folks,

adding stable download links and trace log. Kinda exotic use-case to run a tool
that requires raw disk access since Linux already provides all the
mechanics/tools.

--- snip ---
$ pwd
/home/focht/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/HxD

$ WINEDEBUG=+seh,+relay,+ntdll,+mountmgr wine ./HxD.exe >>log.txt 2>&1
...
0009:Call KERNEL32.CreateFileA(00905128
"\\.\PhysicalDrive0",80000000,00000003,00000000,00000003,b0000000,00000000)
ret=004d7be4
0009:trace:ntdll:FILE_CreateFile handle=0x34f994 access=80100080
name=L"\??\PhysicalDrive0" objattr=00000040 root=(nil) sec=(nil) io=0x34f9a0
alloc_size=(nil) attr=00000000 sharing=00000003 disp=1 options=0000086a
ea=(nil).0x00000000
0009:Ret  KERNEL32.CreateFileA() retval=000000cc ret=004d7be4
0009:Call
KERNEL32.DeviceIoControl(000000cc,000700a0,00000000,00000000,0034faf0,00000028,0034fb30,00000000)
ret=004d7c8a
0024:Ret  KERNEL32.WaitForMultipleObjectsEx() retval=00000001 ret=7fb243d2f1c6
0009:trace:ntdll:NtDeviceIoControlFile
(0xcc,(nil),(nil),(nil),0x34fa08,0x000700a0,(nil),0x00000000,0x34faf0,0x00000028)
...
0024:Call driver dispatch 0x7fb243d2dc30 (device=0x2f5c0,irp=0x75c80)
...
0024:Ret  driver dispatch 0x7fb243d2dc30 (device=0x2f5c0,irp=0x75c80)
retval=c0000010
...
0024:Call driver dispatch 0x7fb2521b7f20 (device=0x2f5c0,irp=0x75c80)
0024:trace:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl ioctl 700a0 insize 0 outsize 40
0024:fixme:mountmgr:harddisk_ioctl The DISK_PARTITION_INFO and
DISK_DETECTION_INFO structures will not be filled
0024:Call ntoskrnl.exe.IoCompleteRequest(00075c80,00000000) ret=7fb2521b8019
...
0024:Ret  ntoskrnl.exe.IoCompleteRequest() retval=00000001 ret=7fb2521b8019
0024:Ret  driver dispatch 0x7fb2521b7f20 (device=0x2f5c0,irp=0x75c80)
retval=00000000
...
0009:Ret  KERNEL32.DeviceIoControl() retval=00000001 ret=004d7c8a 
...
0009:Call user32.CreateMDIWindowW(001adf4c
L"TFormHexView.UnicodeClass",00000000,06cf0000,80000000,80000000,80000000,80000000,0001009c,00400000,00000000)
ret=004c3e51 
...
0009:Call KERNEL32.SetFilePointer(000000cc,00000000,0034f578,00000000)
ret=0040b3d7
0009:trace:ntdll:NtSetInformationFile
(0xcc,0x34f488,0x34f480,0x00000008,0x0000000e)
0009:Ret  KERNEL32.SetFilePointer() retval=ffffffff ret=0040b3d7
0009:Call KERNEL32.GetLastError() ret=0043c079
0009:Ret  KERNEL32.GetLastError() retval=00000042 ret=0043c079 
...
0009:Call KERNEL32.WideCharToMultiByte(00000000,00000000,001b3fe4 L"Bad device
type.",00000010,0034e53c,00000fff,00000000,00000000) ret=004c5f91
0009:Ret  KERNEL32.WideCharToMultiByte() retval=00000010 ret=004c5f91
0009:Call KERNEL32.RaiseException(0eedfade,00000001,00000007,0034f554)
ret=0043c0ba
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception code=eedfade flags=1 addr=0x7b45008b ip=7b45008b
tid=0009
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  info[0]=0043c0ba
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  info[1]=0090b480
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  info[2]=00000042
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  info[3]=00911990
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  info[4]=00ed0000
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  info[5]=0034f584
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  info[6]=0034f570
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  eax=0034f4a0 ebx=0034f584 ecx=00000018
edx=0034f554 esi=0034f554 edi=0034f520
0009:trace:seh:raise_exception  ebp=0034f4f8 esp=0034f494 cs=340023 ds=34002b
es=f7c2002b fs=f7c20063 gs=f7c2006b flags=00000212
0009:trace:seh:call_vectored_handlers calling handler at 0x7d4a6040
code=eedfade flags=1 
--- snip ---

$ sha1sum HxDSetupEN.zip 
e2c3c761f2d52b754a82709c1b47c5efe9e06417  HxDSetupEN.zip

$ du -sh HxDSetupEN.zip 
852K    HxDSetupEN.zip

$ wine --version
wine-4.10

Regards

[Bug 37531] HxD and HexEdit fail to access raw disk/partitions via ' \\\\.\\PhysicalDriveX'

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531

--- Comment #10 from Tcll  ---
just want to note, while the tools are provided, they're not exactly easy to
use...
you can't just select a section of bytes on your HDD like you can with HxD, let
alone Ctrl+S

sure you can type commands, but that's not nearly as intuitive

you can probably tell I don't like using the terminal :P
I don't need to google some documentation or use man pages to use HxD

but yeah that's just some 2 cents that's worth considering.