[Bug 41635] New: The Banner Saga 2 (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine, flickering on Wine-staging

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41635

Bug ID: 41635
           Summary: The Banner Saga 2 (adobe air) - poor performance on
                    plain Wine, flickering on Wine-staging
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.9.22
          Hardware: x86
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

Although from the first glance the Banner Saga 2 (based on the Adobe Air) is
fully functional with plain Wine, the performance is very poor and the
framerate is bad (literally `slide show`).

I wouldn't have fired this bug, if not the following reasons:

1. The performance on wine-staging is much better, almost close to native, but
there is another problem - picture flickering

2. The first game in series has native linux support, but with known problems
(during battles after some time of playing the framerate drops dramatically and
hardly recovers). Due to the small fraction of linux gamers and, I believe, due
to the porting efforts and problems the developer announced that they have no
plans to support linux in the 2 & 3 games in the foreseeable future. I think it
would be a good opportunity for CodeWeavers to reach those guys and propose
porting services (they are quite opened guys, their CTO shares details over
porting vendor selection, problems and etc - easily googled). One of the major
problems - Adobe stopped support of Air on Linux

Nevertheless, I would be happy to provide any additional info, full log is not
useful I suppose, as soon as game runs without errors and can't say what
patch(s) in wine-staging makes it run faster

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine, flickering on Wine-staging

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41635

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                URL|                            |http://stoicstudio.com
            Summary|The Banner Saga 2 (adobe    |The Banner Saga 2 GOG
                   |air) - poor performance on  |(adobe air) - poor
                   |plain Wine, flickering on   |performance on plain Wine,
                   |Wine-staging                |flickering on Wine-staging
           Keywords|                            |performance

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine, flickering on Wine-staging

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--- Comment #1 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to donanykey from comment #0)
> Although from the first glance the Banner Saga 2 (based on the Adobe Air) is
> fully functional with plain Wine, the performance is very poor and the
> framerate is bad (literally `slide show`).
>
> I wouldn't have fired this bug, if not the following reasons:
> - The performance on wine-staging is much better, almost close to native,
>
> but there is another problem - picture flickering
> - The first game in series has native linux support, but with known
>
> problems (during battles after some time of playing the framerate drops
> dramatically and hardly recovers). Due to the small fraction of linux gamers
> and, I believe, due to the porting efforts and problems the developer
> announced that they have no plans to support linux in the 2 & 3 games in the
> foreseeable future. I think it would be a good opportunity for CodeWeavers
> to reach those guys and propose porting services (they are quite opened
> guys, their CTO shares details over porting vendor selection, problems and
> etc - easily googled). One of the major problems - Adobe stopped support of
> Air on Linux
>
> Nevertheless, I would be happy to provide any additional info, full log is
> not useful I suppose, as soon as game runs without errors and can't say what
> patch(s) in wine-staging makes it run faster

In my opinion, I would make two separate bug reports: one for the picture
flickering (complete with terminal output) in Wine-Staging and edit this bug
report to reflect the issue with plain Wine...

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine, flickering on Wine-staging

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41635

--- Comment #2 from [e-mail] ---
Fired additional bug for Wine-staging
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41653

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41635

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What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Summary|The Banner Saga 2 GOG       |The Banner Saga 2 GOG
                   |(adobe air) - poor          |(adobe air) - poor
                   |performance on plain Wine,  |performance on plain Wine
                   |flickering on Wine-staging  |
                URL|http://stoicstudio.com      |https://www.gog.com/game/ba
                   |                            |nner_saga_2_the

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41635

--- Comment #3 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to donanykey from comment #2)
> Fired additional bug for Wine-staging
> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41653

Hi,

Could you generate some terminal output for the game as it performs slowly on
your machine? Perhaps there is some additional info that will only come out in
the terminal...

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine

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--- Comment #4 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to fjfrackiewicz from comment #3)
> (In reply to donanykey from comment #2)
> > Fired additional bug for Wine-staging
> > https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41653
>
> Hi,
>
> Could you generate some terminal output for the game as it performs slowly
> on your machine? Perhaps there is some additional info that will only come
> out in the terminal...

Also it could be worth to try if disabling all default output would help.

WINEDEBUG=-all, wine program_name.exe

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine

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--- Comment #5 from [e-mail] ---
Created attachment 56047
  --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=56047
warn+all,+gdi,+loaddll

WINEPREFIX=/home/don/wine/tmpprefixsaga WINEDEBUG=warn+all,+gdi,+loaddll wine
The\ Banner\ Saga\ 2.exe 2>&1 | uniq >tbs2_plain_wine.log

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine

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--- Comment #6 from [e-mail] ---
Created attachment 56048
  --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=56048
Video of the game performance

WINEDEBUG=-all, changing to full screen do not help

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--- Comment #7 from [e-mail] ---
Have same problem. Even in the main menu game is extremely slow.
Default prefix with no modifications. 
Using Ubuntu 16.04(latest updates installed), Wine 3.13(installed from official
repo), using NVidia GeForce GTX 1080(drivers: nvidia-384
384.130-0ubuntu0.16.04.1). Game is running fullscreen in 1920x1200 resolution

[Bug 41635] The Banner Saga 2 GOG (adobe air) - poor performance on plain Wine

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--- Comment #8 from [e-mail] ---
Addition to my previous comment:
Banner Saga 1 is affected by the same issue. Game is extremely slow.
Running in wine-staging(3.13) with StrictDrawOrdering works perfectly for both
games