[Bug 11437] New: M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

Summary: M$ Windows Explorer does not run
           Product: Wine
           Version: 0.9.5.
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: other
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: wineserver
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

My goal is to run TortoiseSVN under Wine, and I had no problems installed it
under Wine.  However, TortoiseSVN enhances M$ Windows Explorer
(C:\windows\explorer.exe) and there doesn't seem to be any way of getting
TortoiseSVN to work with winefile.

Since winefile doesn't have whatever it is that TortoiseSVN needs, I need to
run M$ explorer.exe under Wine.

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |WONTFIX

--- Comment #1 from Vitaliy Margolen   2008-02-02 00:37:13 ---
This is won't fix. Native explorer needs way too much undocumented stuff that
Wine just does not need at all. And not a single real world app out there that
uses these features.

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |CLOSED
          Component|wineserver                  |-unknown

--- Comment #2 from Vitaliy Margolen   2008-02-02 00:38:05 ---
In other words - Wine is not made to run parts of windows. Wine is made to run
windows applications.

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

--- Comment #3 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2008-02-02 06:52:31 ---
Besides to what Vitaliy said, Wine builtin explorer.exe does some essential
things like desktop window and resolution change managing, hal support,
without which some fundamental features in Wine would break.

Explorer extenders should be replaced by features of native desktop
environment.

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

Mike Slinn  changed:

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                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #4 from Mike Slinn   2008-02-02 06:58:33 ---
TortoiseSVN is a unique and valuable software tool.  For me, and many other
programmers who work in a mixed Windows/Linux environment, Wine would be much
more useful if there was a way to run it under Wine.  Might it be possible to
extend winefile with whatever it currently lacks in order to allow TortoiseSVN
to run?

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

--- Comment #5 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2008-02-02 07:15:49 ---
Patches are always welcome.

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

--- Comment #6 from Austin English   2008-02-02 17:33:37 ---
Explaining what you're trying to do in winefile/TortiseSVN would be a nice
start.

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

--- Comment #7 from Mike Slinn   2008-02-02 17:40:09 ---
I note that Winscp (winscp.org) is able to display TortoiseSVN menus in the
local file window when running under Windows, but not when running under wine. 
Here is how I invoke winscp under wine:

WINEDEBUG=fixme-all wine "c:/program files/winscp/winscp"

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

--- Comment #8 from Mike Slinn   2008-02-02 19:57:48 ---
WinSCP is a very nice GUI front end for Subversion (svn).  You can read about
it and download it here: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/

TortoiseSVN should not be run across a network when the Icon Overlays feature
is enabled.
http://tortoisesvn.net/node/138
http://tortoisesvn.net/node/267

However, TortoiseSVN's icon overlay feature is one of the program's major
assets.

I want to use Cygwin's xterm to connect to the samba server that holds the svn
checkout directory and use Wine to run TortoiseSVN locally on that server.  The
user would be presented with a nice visual representation of the state of their
checked out Subversion project, and performance would be good.

On Windows, TortoiseSVN can display its icons in any file chooser window, and
in Windows Explorer.  I have also found that WinSCP's explorer view will show
icons for the local machine.

I would prefer not to have to run WinSCP in order to view TortoiseSVN icons. 
Perhaps a tiny Win32 program that merely shows a file dialog would be
sufficient to run in an xterm, if Wine would support whatever system calls
TortoiseSVN makes.

[Bug 11437] M$ Windows Explorer does not run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437

--- Comment #9 from Austin English   2008-02-04 08:14:36 ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> I note that Winscp (winscp.org) is able to display TortoiseSVN menus in the
> local file window when running under Windows, but not when running under wine. 
> Here is how I invoke winscp under wine:
>
> WINEDEBUG=fixme-all wine "c:/program files/winscp/winscp"

Please open a new bug for this issue.