[Bug 11754] New: Access violation running application from NAVIGON

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11754

Summary: Access violation running application from NAVIGON
           Product: Wine
           Version: 0.9.55.
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=11011)
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stderr running wine fresh.exe

After sucessfull install of NAVIGON fresh, i try to open the program, but get
an Access violation.

NAVIGOB fresh is downloadable from NAVIGON.COM

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11754

Louis Lenders  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Louis Lenders   2008-02-27 15:39:03 ---
> err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {00000507-0000-0010-8000-00aa006d2ea4} not >registered

Looks like it needs mdac, try this:

wget http://kegel.com/wine/winetricks && sh winetricks mdac28

Then run app again, and report back please

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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--- Comment #2 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-02-28 13:01:49 ---
Created an attachment (id=11027)
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error when trying to run the application

After installing mdac successfully I tried to run the application again.
It does give a different error

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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Austin English  changed:

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                URL|                            |http://www.navigon.com
           Keywords|                            |download

--- Comment #3 from Austin English   2008-06-05 10:30:43 ---
Is this still an issue in 1.0-rc3 or newer wine?

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--- Comment #4 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-06-05 11:17:20 ---
Yes, I'm afraid it still exits in 1.0-rc3.

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--- Comment #5 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-06-14 03:48:09 ---
I still have the problem in RC5.

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--- Comment #6 from Louis Lenders   2008-06-14 03:55:50 ---
Hi, i cannot find the download in the site you provided. Could you give a
direct download link ?>

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--- Comment #7 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-06-14 04:34:25 ---
Sure.

http://navigon.vo.llnwd.net/o25/u/eu/fresh/NAVIGON_Fresh_setup.zip

The zip file contains ud_setup.exe. This setups the NAVIGON Fresh program.

I get the error both with and without the PDA attached, so it should be
reproduceable.

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Austin English  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Austin English   2008-06-14 16:42:59 ---
Confirming in 1.0-rc5.

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--- Comment #9 from Austin English   2008-06-14 16:43:39 ---
Created an attachment (id=14030)
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Terminal output in git, with debugging symbols

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--- Comment #10 from Austin English   2008-06-14 16:44:28 ---
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+relay,+seh,+tid log in git

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--- Comment #11 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2008-06-15 00:35:09 ---
Does installing MDAC with winetricks help?

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--- Comment #12 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-06-15 04:42:34 ---
It does not help for me, unfortunately.

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--- Comment #13 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-06-19 10:55:33 ---
And it still exists in 1.0

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--- Comment #14 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-09-09 10:37:32 ---
I have updated to Wine 1.1.4, and still see the problem.

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--- Comment #15 from Stefan Leichter   2008-12-13 03:47:56 ---
Created an attachment (id=17886)
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stripped log from the crash

this is with current git (1.1.10+). Wintricks mdac28 helps for me over the
first crash to the next ... Currently two messageboxes are shown. The first one
informs about the crash, the second one that a dll cound not be loaded

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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--- Comment #16 from Stefan Leichter   2008-12-28 09:12:28 ---
the crash can be avoided by removing/renaming the fake dlls kernel32 and
user32.

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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--- Comment #17 from Austin English   2008-12-28 10:40:42 ---
(In reply to comment #16)
> the crash can be avoided by removing/renaming the fake dlls kernel32 and
> user32.

Setting them to disabled in winecfg or through WINEDLLOVERIDES is probably
easier.

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--- Comment #18 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-12-28 14:40:25 ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> (In reply to comment #16)
> > the crash can be avoided by removing/renaming the fake dlls kernel32 and
> > user32.
>
> Setting them to disabled in winecfg or through WINEDLLOVERIDES is probably
> easier.

Hello.

I need some more instructions for this to work.
If I just set kernel32 and user32 to disabled in winecfg, I end up with a lot
of messages saying things like something.dll not found. You mention some fake
dlls, where are they located, and where are the "real" ones located?

Kind regards
Lars

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--- Comment #19 from Stefan Leichter   2008-12-28 17:15:34 ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> (In reply to comment #16)
> > the crash can be avoided by removing/renaming the fake dlls kernel32 and
> > user32.
>
> Setting them to disabled in winecfg or through WINEDLLOVERIDES is probably
> easier.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but this will not work, because WINEDLLOVERIDES
is working only for LoadLibrary* API but not for CreateFile* API.

The fake dlls are in ~/.wine/dosdevices/c:/windows/system32. They are created
when you start wine the first time on an empty .wine directory.

@Lars:
cd ~/.wine/dosdevices/c:/windows/system32
mv kernel32.dll kernel32.dll.fake
mv user32.dll user32.dll.fake

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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--- Comment #20 from Lars Søndergaard   2008-12-29 06:20:41 ---
Hi.

Now the appliation will start. I'll play around with it, the next couple of
days, to see if it actually works, and then I'll get back.

Great help, thank you.

Kind regards
Lars

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--- Comment #21 from Keith Moseley   2008-12-31 05:14:42 ---
I've just done the fixes suggested above and can confirm the app starts for me
as well.  Will try to post back after using it to confirm functionality.  Wine
is brilliant.  Thanks to all working on it and to those who replied to this
bug.

Regards,

Keith

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--- Comment #22 from Keith Moseley   2008-12-31 06:19:50 ---
Hi again.

As near as I can tell this app is pretty much completely non-functional beyond
the starting page.  It doesn't give much in the way of error messages either,
unfortunately, just refuses to work.  Oh well.  Let me know if there's anything
I can do.  I'm new to Wine, so don't know how to generate error messages, but
would be happy to run test on the program and post error logs.

Regards,

Keith

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--- Comment #23 from Lars Søndergaard   2009-01-02 11:12:22 ---
Hi.

I agree, this application is useless under wine. I think it is missing USB
support, at least on my system, that is the problem, but it might also be a
problem with connection to the internet.

Thanks to all.

Kind regards
Lars

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--- Comment #24 from Stefan Leichter   2009-01-03 13:52:51 ---
(In reply to comment #23)
> Hi.
>
> I agree, this application is useless under wine. I think it is missing USB
> support, at least on my system, that is the problem, but it might also be a
> problem with connection to the internet.

This might be correct for PNAs. But Navigon offers the navigation software for
PDAs too. The software / maps are getting installed / updated via a SD Memory
card / cardreader on Windows XP / Vista . Getting this going might be a good
start. Has anyone tried it so far?

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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--- Comment #25 from Lars Søndergaard   2009-01-03 16:18:56 ---
(In reply to comment #24)
> (In reply to comment #23)
> > Hi.
> >
> > I agree, this application is useless under wine. I think it is missing USB
> > support, at least on my system, that is the problem, but it might also be a
> > problem with connection to the internet.
>
> This might be correct for PNAs. But Navigon offers the navigation software for
> PDAs too. The software / maps are getting installed / updated via a SD Memory
> card / cardreader on Windows XP / Vista . Getting this going might be a good
> start. Has anyone tried it so far?

That is true, you can install the software and maps with a cardreader! That is
why it is a problem on my system, as the only cardreader I have is USB based.
By the way, this install procedure is for both PNA and PDA.

Kind regards
Lars

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--- Comment #26 from Lars Søndergaard   2009-01-11 06:07:10 ---
Hi.

After upgrading to wine 1.1.12, starting the application, renaming kernel32.dll
and user32.dll, I got an almost working application.
The only thing missing, is the applications ability to detect the SD-card in my
USB Card reader.

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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--- Comment #27 from Stefan Leichter   2009-01-11 16:51:32 ---
(In reply to comment #26)
> The only thing missing, is the applications ability to detect the SD-card in my
> USB Card reader.

This is just a wild guess !!

In November 2007 Alexander Morozov posted some patches to recognize
devices/drives/disks as removable media. Maybe your problem is related. Sadly
the patches did not make it into git.

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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--- Comment #28 from Stefan Leichter   2009-03-10 17:39:55 ---
Hello Lars,

did you try to login into the navigon server when you tested last time? What is
the current status? The login fails for me currently with the (translated)
error "The server does not respond. Please try again later.".

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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--- Comment #29 from Lars Søndergaard   2009-03-10 17:55:12 ---
(In reply to comment #28)
> Hello Lars,
>
> did you try to login into the navigon server when you tested last time? What is
> the current status? The login fails for me currently with the (translated)
> error "The server does not respond. Please try again later.".

Hello Stefan.

With wine 1.1.16 I get the same response. I have been able to login to the
server, at an earlier version of wine (1.1.12).
At the moment, I just make a quick retest, when wine is upgraded, but as the
status doesn't change, I have not updated this bug report.
Thank you, for your continued interest.

Kind regards, Lars

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--- Comment #30 from Austin English  2010-09-22 20:15:05 CDT ---
It runs now, without an access violation (just verified), so this bug is fixed.

If you still have login issues, please file a new bug.

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Alexandre Julliard  changed:

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--- Comment #31 from Alexandre Julliard  2010-10-01 13:57:27 CDT ---
Closing bugs fixed in 1.3.4.

[Bug 11754] Access violation running application from NAVIGON

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Bug 11754 depends on bug 18402, which changed state.

Bug 18402 Summary: NAVIGON Fresh failed to login
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18402

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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED