[Bug 25633] New: Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

Summary: Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes
                    of gameplay.
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.3.9
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: major
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=32645)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=32645)
Output in the Wine Debugger when Chip's Challenge crashes Wine.

If you play Chip's Challenge for approximately 10 minutes, Wine totally
crashes.

Download Chip's Challenge here: http://www.freewebs.com/chipshome/chips.html

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #1 from David  2010-12-27 19:49:14 CST ---
Created an attachment (id=32646)
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Output from another crash.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #2 from David  2010-12-27 19:50:43 CST ---
*UPDATE*
Chip's Challenge will crash Wine if you finish one or more levels.  It does not
seem to crash Wine if you stay within the same level.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

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--- Comment #3 from Austin English  2010-12-28 02:29:12 CST ---
Not major

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

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--- Comment #4 from Raymond  2010-12-29 19:58:17 CST ---
do you have a wavetable synth card since the background music is midi and the
sound effects are wav files ?

you can hear both music and sound effects at the same time when you have a SB
Live! emu10k1 after loading the sf2 soundfont

what is your alsa "default" device ?

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #5 from David  2010-12-30 19:08:48 CST ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> do you have a wavetable synth card since the background music is midi and the
> sound effects are wav files ?
>
> you can hear both music and sound effects at the same time when you have a SB
> Live! emu10k1 after loading the sf2 soundfont
>
> what is your alsa "default" device ?

Don't know, that's too technical for me to understand and answer.  I have found
that the background music won't play, so maybe a workaround for now is to
untick the option "Background Music" in the "Options" menu?  That seems to stop
this game from crashing - for now anyway.  Don't know if that's a permanent
workaround?

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #6 from David  2011-01-02 19:43:53 CST ---
Created an attachment (id=32706)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=32706)
Crash when only sound effects are enabled

In the "Options" in Chip's Challenge, the "Background Music" was not enabled,
but the "Sound Effects" were enabled.

Maybe having both sound options disabled could stop the game crashing?

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #7 from Raymond  2011-01-02 19:54:53 CST ---
you have to provide debug log with WINEDEBUG=+wave

the current implementation of winealsa does not allow two effect sound play at
the same time since winealsa does not support multiple waveoutopen

may be you can try to use "plug:dmix" and waveout.c in

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880 #c41

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #8 from David  2011-01-04 07:24:45 CST ---
WORKAROUND: disable all sounds in the game, in the "Options" menu.  This will
stop Wine from crashing when you use it to play Chip's Challenge.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #9 from Raymond  2011-01-04 18:45:59 CST ---
what is your sound card ?

I get some error message with plughw:1   HDA Intel

trace:wave:wodOpen (0, 0x8ce750, 00030008);
trace:wave:wodOpen Requested this format: 11025x8x1 WAVE_FORMAT_PCM
trace:wave:wodOpen Got this format: 11025x8x1 WAVE_FORMAT_PCM
warn:wave:wodOpen unable to set buffer time: Invalid argument
trace:wave:ALSA_wodMessage (0, WODM_OPEN, 008CE698, 008CE700, 00030008);
trace:wave:wodOpen (0, 0x8ce700, 00030008);
trace:wave:wodOpen Requested this format: 11025x16x1 WAVE_FORMAT_PCM
trace:wave:wodOpen Got this format: 11025x16x1 WAVE_FORMAT_PCM
warn:wave:wodOpen unable to set buffer time: Invalid argument

export LIBASOUND_DEBUG=1

ALSA ERROR hw_params: set_near (BUFFER_TIME)
           value = 120000 : Invalid argument
ACCESS:  MMAP_INTERLEAVED
FORMAT:  U8
SUBFORMAT:  STD
SAMPLE_BITS: 8
FRAME_BITS: 8
CHANNELS: 1
RATE: 11025
PERIOD_TIME: (11972 14513)
PERIOD_SIZE: NONE
PERIOD_BYTES: [32 640]
PERIODS: (2 41]
BUFFER_TIME: (119002 119003)
BUFFER_SIZE: 1312
BUFFER_BYTES: 1312
TICK_TIME: ALL
ALSA ERROR hw_params: set_near (BUFFER_TIME)
           value = 120000 : Invalid argument
ACCESS:  MMAP_INTERLEAVED
FORMAT:  S16_LE
SUBFORMAT:  STD
SAMPLE_BITS: 16
FRAME_BITS: 16
CHANNELS: 1
RATE: 11025
PERIOD_TIME: (11972 14513)
PERIOD_SIZE: NONE
PERIOD_BYTES: [64 1280]
PERIODS: (2 41]
BUFFER_TIME: (119002 119003)
BUFFER_SIZE: 1312
BUFFER_BYTES: 2624
TICK_TIME: ALL
ALSA ERROR hw_params: set_near (BUFFER_TIME)
           value = 120000 : Invalid argument
ACCESS:  MMAP_INTERLEAVED
FORMAT:  U8
SUBFORMAT:  STD
SAMPLE_BITS: 8
FRAME_BITS: 8
CHANNELS: 1
RATE: 11025
PERIOD_TIME: (11972 14513)
PERIOD_SIZE: NONE
PERIOD_BYTES: [32 640]
PERIODS: (2 41]
BUFFER_TIME: (119002 119003)
BUFFER_SIZE: 1312
BUFFER_BYTES: 1312
TICK_TIME: ALL
ALSA ERROR hw_params: set_near (BUFFER_TIME)
           value = 120000 : Invalid argument
ACCESS:  MMAP_INTERLEAVED
FORMAT:  S16_LE
SUBFORMAT:  STD
SAMPLE_BITS: 16
FRAME_BITS: 16
CHANNELS: 1
RATE: 11025
PERIOD_TIME: (11972 14513)
PERIOD_SIZE: NONE
PERIOD_BYTES: [64 1280]
PERIODS: (2 41]
BUFFER_TIME: (119002 119003)
BUFFER_SIZE: 1312
BUFFER_BYTES: 2624
TICK_TIME: ALL

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #10 from David  2011-01-06 07:39:22 CST ---
@Raymond

I'm a non-technical user of Wine.  All I can do is report problems as they
happen and copy and paste lines of error messages into text files and upload. 
Anything more I can't help with as I don't have the technical knowledge.

My sound card is one built into the motherboard that works fine.  It appears
Wine doesn't like the sound in Chip's Challenge.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #11 from Raymond  2011-01-07 01:19:55 CST ---
To find out which sound card

aplay -l

aplay can play chips 's audio file

aplay -v -Dplughw:0 DOOR.WAV

aplay -v -Ddefault DOOR.WAV

but winealsa fail to play those file when using "plughw:0"

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #12 from David  2011-01-07 06:23:58 CST ---
Created an attachment (id=32753)
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Sound tests for DOOR.WAV

Followed the instructions and attached output.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #13 from Raymond  2011-01-07 08:18:48 CST ---
aplay -v -Ddefault DOOR.WAV
Playing WAVE 'DOOR.WAV' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 11025 Hz, Mono
ALSA <-> PulseAudio PCM I/O Plugin

if you are using "pulse" as default device

you have to use "WINEDEBUG=+wave" to find out why wine crash

1 0x7e4f574b ALSA_wodMessage+0xa8a() in winealsa (0x0059deb8)                   
2 0x7e55d20b MMDRV_Message+0xfa() in winmm (0x0059df18)                         
3 0x7e56f6a2 waveOutReset+0x61() in winmm (0x0059df48)                          
4 0x7e4ba768 WAVEMAP_wodMessage+0x637() in msacm32 (0x0059e028)                 
5 0x7e55d20b MMDRV_Message+0xfa() in winmm (0x0059e088)                         
6 0x7e56f6a2 waveOutReset+0x61() in winmm (0x0059e0b8)                          
7 0x7e568a7e in winmm (+0x18a7d) (0x0059e118)                                   
8 0x7e568e21 sndPlaySoundA+0x20() in winmm (0x0059e138)

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #14 from David  2011-01-07 19:07:38 CST ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> aplay -v -Ddefault DOOR.WAV
> Playing WAVE 'DOOR.WAV' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 11025 Hz, Mono
> ALSA <-> PulseAudio PCM I/O Plugin
>
> if you are using "pulse" as default device
>
> you have to use "WINEDEBUG=+wave" to find out why wine crash
>
> 1 0x7e4f574b ALSA_wodMessage+0xa8a() in winealsa (0x0059deb8)                   
> 2 0x7e55d20b MMDRV_Message+0xfa() in winmm (0x0059df18)                         
> 3 0x7e56f6a2 waveOutReset+0x61() in winmm (0x0059df48)                          
> 4 0x7e4ba768 WAVEMAP_wodMessage+0x637() in msacm32 (0x0059e028)                 
> 5 0x7e55d20b MMDRV_Message+0xfa() in winmm (0x0059e088)                         
> 6 0x7e56f6a2 waveOutReset+0x61() in winmm (0x0059e0b8)                          
> 7 0x7e568a7e in winmm (+0x18a7d) (0x0059e118)                                   
> 8 0x7e568e21 sndPlaySoundA+0x20() in winmm (0x0059e138)

I have no idea on how I can help there.
Chip's Challenge will work in Wine IF THE SOUND OPTIONS ARE TURNED OFF,
otherwise Wine will crash regularly.

I tested this in Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit.
The sounds do play fine outside of Wine.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #15 from Raymond  2011-01-07 19:53:49 CST ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> I have no idea on how I can help there.
> Chip's Challenge will work in Wine IF THE SOUND OPTIONS ARE TURNED OFF,
> otherwise Wine will crash regularly.
>
> I tested this in Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit.
> The sounds do play fine outside of Wine.

post the log, need to know whether PA server abort or pulse plugin does not
support snd_pcm_drop()

WINEDEBUG=+wave wine chips

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #16 from Raymond  2011-01-07 19:56:46 CST ---
The easy fix for using "plughw" with chips is reverse the order of
set_buffer_time() and set_period_time()

-     dir=0;
-     EXIT_ON_ERROR( snd_pcm_hw_params_set_buffer_time_near(pcm, hw_params,
&buffer_time, &dir), MMSYSERR_INVALPARAM, "unable to set buffer time");
      dir=0;
      EXIT_ON_ERROR( snd_pcm_hw_params_set_period_time_near(pcm, hw_params,
&period_time, &dir), MMSYSERR_INVALPARAM, "unable to set period time");
+     dir=0;
+     EXIT_ON_ERROR( snd_pcm_hw_params_set_buffer_time_near(pcm, hw_params,
&buffer_time, &dir), MMSYSERR_INVALPARAM, "unable to set buffer time");

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #17 from David  2011-01-08 06:13:52 CST ---
> post the log, need to know whether PA server abort or pulse plugin does not
> support snd_pcm_drop()
>
> WINEDEBUG=+wave wine chips

Sorry, can't help there.  I've reported this bug because the Chip's Challenge
game will crash Wine if the sounds are enabled, but it doesn't crash Wine if
the sounds are turned off.  I'm not an expert at Wine and Linux, just an
ordinary user.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #18 from Raymond  2011-01-09 01:30:35 CST ---
Refer to the author of winepulse 's comment at

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495#c144

"The audio api, designed probably in the early 90s for PCs "

"reason is the waveout functions. Through libalsa pulse, calls such as
waveOutReset() and waveOutResume() require a reconnection to pulseaudio each
call."

This application is 16 bits application in early 90s and your log have numerous
waveOutReset()

So the crash is related to wine call snd_pcm_prepare() and this call is
translated to "alsa-pulse" plugin 's pulse_prepare() which close the connection
to PA server

http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-plugins.git;a=blob;f=pulse/pcm_pulse.c;h...

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #19 from David  2011-01-10 09:47:53 CST ---
(In reply to comment #18)
> Refer to the author of winepulse 's comment at
>
> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495#c144
>
> "The audio api, designed probably in the early 90s for PCs "
>
> "reason is the waveout functions. Through libalsa pulse, calls such as
> waveOutReset() and waveOutResume() require a reconnection to pulseaudio each
> call."
>
> This application is 16 bits application in early 90s and your log have numerous
> waveOutReset()
>
> So the crash is related to wine call snd_pcm_prepare() and this call is
> translated to "alsa-pulse" plugin 's pulse_prepare() which close the connection
> to PA server
>
> http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-plugins.git;a=blob;f=pulse/pcm_pulse.c;h...

Looks like I've touched on something highly technical.  What I can definitely
say is that the sound files used by Chip's Challenge do play properly OUTSIDE
of Wine.  If you enable any of the sound options in Chip's Challenge, Wine will
crash regularly - roughly every 10 minutes or so.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #20 from Raymond  2011-01-10 17:38:42 CST ---
chip challenge seem work normally if you are using "plug:dmix:0" and run a
softsynth for the background music

timidity -iA -Os -o plug:dmix:0

so this is a regression because your linux distribution override alsa 's
default device by pulse and you cannot use the "default" device in
/usr/share/alsa/cards/HDA-Intel.conf for your HDA

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #21 from David  2011-01-11 11:08:42 CST ---
I have received a message to say this sound problem with Wine could be caused
by PulseAudio in Ubuntu.  I cannot provide any more information as I'm still a
newbie to all this Linux stuff.  I know there are 2 sound systems, possibly
more, i.e. PulseAudio and ALSA.  I'm also aware that by default, Ubuntu uses
PulseAudio.

Hope that helps.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #22 from Raymond  2011-01-11 19:59:22 CST ---
The problem is pulse_prepare() call pa_stream_disconnect() and reconnect
afterward when wine call snd_pcm_prepare()

645 static int pulse_prepare(snd_pcm_ioplug_t * io)
 646 {

....

659         if (pcm->stream) {
 660                 pa_stream_disconnect(pcm->stream);
 661                 wait_stream_state(pcm, PA_STREAM_TERMINATED);
 662                 pa_stream_unref(pcm->stream);
 663                 pcm->stream = NULL;
 664         }
 665 
 666         err = pulse_check_connection(pcm->p);
 667         if (err < 0)
 668                 goto finish;

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #23 from David  2011-01-25 18:32:46 CST ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> The problem is pulse_prepare() call pa_stream_disconnect() and reconnect
> afterward when wine call snd_pcm_prepare()
>
> 645 static int pulse_prepare(snd_pcm_ioplug_t * io)
>  646 {
>
> ....
>
> 659         if (pcm->stream) {
>  660                 pa_stream_disconnect(pcm->stream);
>  661                 wait_stream_state(pcm, PA_STREAM_TERMINATED);
>  662                 pa_stream_unref(pcm->stream);
>  663                 pcm->stream = NULL;
>  664         }
>  665 
>  666         err = pulse_check_connection(pcm->p);
>  667         if (err < 0)
>  668                 goto finish;

Okay, it looks like there are indeed sound problems in Wine and if users submit
bug reports related to sound, perhaps they are submitting duplicates, which
relate to the same sound problems?  Bug 23888 is an example.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #24 from Raymond  2011-01-25 19:42:43 CST ---
(In reply to comment #23)
> Okay, it looks like there are indeed sound problems in Wine and if users submit
> bug reports related to sound, perhaps they are submitting duplicates, which
> relate to the same sound problems?  Bug 23888 is an example.

bug#23888 is related to dsound but chip challenge in this bug by the original
reporter is related to bug in "pulse" plugin since chip challenge only use 
midi and waveoutopen at the same time

I have opened another bug#25859 for waveoutopen cannot play 11025Hz for HDA
sound card which support 11025Hz

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

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--- Comment #25 from David  2011-07-30 06:58:22 CDT ---
I'm aware that Wine version 1.3.25 has improved the sound problems in games
such as Lemmix (see Wine bug 22880).

Chip's Challenge no longer crashes when you enable either or both the
"Background Music" and/or "Sound Effects".

The sound effects work, but not the background music.  About the sound changes
in Wine as of 1.3.25 - does it apply to these 16-bit programs? - Chip's
Challenge is 16-bit.

I've marked this bug as "RESOLVED" and "FIXED" because the game is no longer
crashing when the sound is enabled.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

Alexandre Julliard  changed:

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--- Comment #26 from Alexandre Julliard  2011-08-05 12:39:08 CDT ---
Closing bugs fixed in 1.3.26.

[Bug 25633] Chip's Challenge crashes Wine after about 10 minutes of gameplay.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25633

--- Comment #27 from Raymond  2011-09-06 17:31:45 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #25)
> The sound effects work, but not the background music.  About the sound changes
> in Wine as of 1.3.25 - does it apply to these 16-bit programs? - Chip's
> Challenge is 16-bit.

you need a sound card which support midi or use softsynth for background music

aplaymidi -l

Port    Client name                      Port name
 14:0    Midi Through                     Midi Through Port-0
 17:0    OPL3 FM synth                    OPL3 FM Port