[Bug 39053] New: The Forest: Starting a game needs often a long time

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

Bug ID: 39053
           Summary: The Forest: Starting a game needs often a long time
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.7.44
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

Loading a game instance needs sometimes only some seconds but sometimes it also
needs some minutes. For example on creating a new game in single player this
needs mostly some minutes while on joining a multiplayer game it is vice versa.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: Starting a game needs often a long time

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

Ken Sharp  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Ken Sharp  ---
You have not provided any information that anyone can work with.

Please attach the full console output.
http://wiki.winehq.org/Bugs

[Bug 39053] The Forest: Starting a game needs often a long time

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--- Comment #2 from [e-mail] ---
Created attachment 52054
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Terminal output

[Bug 39053] The Forest: Starting a game needs often a long time

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--- Comment #3 from [e-mail] ---
err:d3d:wined3d_debug_callback 0x3fdecfd0: "GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY error generated.
Failed to allocate memory for texture.".

this could be the reason and if that's the reason this is a duplicate to a bug
you already created that forest don't see memory amount correctly.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: Starting a game needs often a long time

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--- Comment #4 from [e-mail] ---
The game just got an OOM shortly after the test was done.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

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Austin English  changed:

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            Summary|The Forest: Starting a game |The Forest: starting a game
                   |needs often a long time     |is often slow

--- Comment #5 from Austin English  ---
Please install libgnutls/winsock and retest in 1.8-rc2.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

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--- Comment #6 from Bruno Jesus  ---
(In reply to Austin English from comment #5)
> Please install libgnutls/winsock and retest in 1.8-rc2.

What Austin means is for you to fix these 2 errors from your log before testing
again:

err:winediag:schan_imp_init Failed to load libgnutls, secure connections will
not be available.
err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make
sure that ntlm_auth >= 3.0.25 is in your path...

And there is a typo, he meant winbind package, not winsock.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

--- Comment #7 from [e-mail] ---
I have upgraded to Wine 1.8 (which fixed the libgnutls error) and installed
winbind that fixed the ntlm_auth error. Additionally I have disabled
winepulse.drv to fix the related error but all this doesn't fix this issue.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

--- Comment #8 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to sworddragon2 from comment #7)
> I have upgraded to Wine 1.8 (which fixed the libgnutls error) and installed
> winbind that fixed the ntlm_auth error. Additionally I have disabled
> winepulse.drv to fix the related error but all this doesn't fix this issue.

Are you still seeing this?

err:d3d:wined3d_debug_callback 0x3fdecfd0: "GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY error generated.
Failed to allocate memory for texture.".

How much memory your gpu does have? Does the game start smoothly after booting
into system?

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

[e-mail] changed:

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--- Comment #9 from [e-mail] ---
Created attachment 53549
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Terminal output with Wine 1.8

No, this error doesn't appear anymore (in the attachments is the updated
terminal output). My graphics card has 2 GiB of memory and the bug where the
game hasn't detected it is already fixed (it does now successfully report the 2
GiB of video memory).

Also if the issue appears I'm hearing disk activity in an interval of 1 second.
Maybe this issue has something to do with I/O.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

--- Comment #10 from [e-mail] ---
> Also if the issue appears I'm hearing disk activity in an interval of 1
> second. Maybe this issue has something to do with I/O.

An old hdd, slow/breaking apart, bad cable? I am unable to hear any disk
activity with recent hard disks. They are just too silent. It's a bit odd
problem if you dont see it at every start. If you could you should try another
hard disk if that makes any difference.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39053

--- Comment #11 from [e-mail] ---
Based on the disk activity if the issue appears I have monitored it and figured
out much more about this issue: The long loading time (additional ~5 minutes)
happens because the game needs to recompile the shaders that gets stored in
NVIDIA's GLCache directory (about ~80.7 MiB in the files
~/.nv/GLCache/2dea51771edffad81c4c01d01baf251e/72e86678b0efcff2/35ac8f1b53478706.bin
and .toc or counted 1 number higher before the file extensions.

If the game starts it seems to sometimes delete 1 of the caches, I'm not sure
about the exact details. Also I don't know if this is an issue with the game
itself, an issue with the proprietary NVIDIA driver, just the GLCache
overflowing or if an issue in Wine triggers this behavior. I'm posting this now
to the developers of the game and also creating a feature request on the NVIDIA
tracker to implement an environment variable that can change the size of the
GLCache and also mentioning this issue as a potential bug.

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

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--- Comment #12 from [e-mail] ---
Have you got any feedback on this matter? Are you aware if this issue happens
on windows too?

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

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--- Comment #13 from [e-mail] ---
On the NVIDIA tracker I got the information (in april this year) that the case
is escalated to their level 2 team. Nothing has happened since then but the
ticket is still open. From the developers of the game I haven't got any reply
and I have also never seen somebody complaining about this issue of their
forum. I'm assuming that the shaders compile on Windows too but maybe they
don't get deleted so that the users had this issue only the first time the game
got started and don't remember it anymore.

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Bronson  changed:

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--- Comment #14 from Bronson  ---
the forest runs fine for me under wine 3.11

[Bug 39053] The Forest: starting a game is often slow

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joaopa  changed:

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--- Comment #15 from joaopa  ---
Does the bug still occur with wine-6.5?