[Bug 54646] New: Entering the minus symbol displays parentheses

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Bug ID: 54646
           Summary: Entering the minus symbol displays parentheses
           Product: Wine
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

Hello,
I have been using, for many years, a small personal accounting application
developed in Delphi. (I am not the developer)
This one worked perfectly via Wine. Since one of the last update I have a
display problem.
When I enter a negative value in the application, once the entry validated the
minus sign (debit) turns into parentheses:
Input: -100€
Display: (100€)
Do you know where this problem could come from?

Thank you in advance for your help.

[Bug 54646] Entering the minus symbol displays parentheses

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Zeb Figura  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Zeb Figura  ---
Are you sure this is a bug? Parentheses are a common notation for debit in
accounting.

[Bug 54646] Entering the minus symbol displays parentheses

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--- Comment #2 from Pascal  ---
Hello,
thanks for your answer.
Not sure that is a bug , The only thing I can say is that before the update,
the minus sign "entered" was displayed well and since this update it is no
longer displayed.

Before : -100€
after  : (100€)

[Bug 54646] Entering the minus symbol displays parentheses

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Austin English  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Austin English  ---
Is this software publicly available somewhere?

What version of wine did this work in? When did it break?

It would be super helpful if you could run a regression test:
https://wiki.winehq.org/Regression_Testing

that will help us see what change caused this change in your app.

[Bug 54646] Entering the minus symbol displays parentheses

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--- Comment #4 from Pascal  ---
This software is not publicly available somewhere, but i can give you the
executable file to let you see what is the problem.

I'm using it with wine on a debian sid:
apt-cache policy wine
wine:
  Installé : 8.0~repack-4
  Candidat : 8.0~repack-4
 Table de version :
 *** 8.0~repack-4 500
        500 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

And, i'm not sure but i think the problem appears since the last update.
Tell me if you want the "exe" file.

If you test whit it, here is some information (it's in french):

- When you launch it, as some files are missing you have to validate the error
messages concerning the file "COMPTE.CSV", "COMPTEC.CSV", "TIERS.CSV",
"CAT.CSV".
 - Then you should click on "Nouvelle opération".
 - Put a negative value in the field "Montant en €uros".
 - Press the TAB key on the keyboard (validate the entry).
The value entered "-100,00€" will be transformed into "(100,00€)" which was not
the case before the last update
Before upgrade, the displayed value was -100,00€

Thanks for your help

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Olivier F. R. Dierick  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Olivier F. R. Dierick  ---
Hello,

(In reply to Pascal from comment #4)
> This software is not publicly available somewhere, but i can give you the
> executable file to let you see what is the problem.

Please, don't share proprietary software publicly. To avoid any legal issues,
use private means to share it with a developer for individual technical
support, or just don't share it and just follow advice/instructions given here.

(In reply to Zeb Figura from comment #1)
> Are you sure this is a bug? Parentheses are a common notation for debit in
> accounting.

This is indeed a valid remark. Both notations are valid negative numbers
representation. It looks like it depends on locale, though.

@OP,

Make sure that the application has no negative number notation setting that may
have changed for unknown reasons.

How is your locale (environment variables LANG, LC_MONETARY, LC_NUMERIC)
configured?

Regards.

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--- Comment #6 from Zeb Figura  ---
It's also possible that the previous behaviour was a bug, and something in Wine
changed to fix it.

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--- Comment #7 from Pascal  ---
Hello,
thanks for your answers.
I will check locales configuration.
Just for information, when i use this app on a "windows computer", it works
fine. Minus symbol are well displayed.

Thanks again

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--- Comment #8 from Rafał Mużyło  ---
Maybe rather than a bug, it's simply something Windows doesn't do ?

LC_MONETARY n_sign_posn with a value 0 gives parentheses, values 1/3 give
preceding minus. There's a chance Windows (or at least this program) doesn't
apply this value or they differ between Windows and Linux.

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--- Comment #9 from Pascal  ---
Hello,
I don't feel like the locals have been changed lately.
What should be the value for monetary to show the minus sign?
Thanks

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Alex Henrie  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Alex Henrie  ---
If you know that the application was developed in Delphi, does that mean that
you have the source code? Could you find the function call that is responsible
for adding the parentheses and tell us which Windows API function it is?

As Austin pointed out, a regression test with `git bisect` would also be
extremely helpful.

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--- Comment #11 from Pascal  ---
I am not the developer of this program and I do not have the source code for
it.

Concerning the regression test with `git bisect` I don't really feel able to do
this kind of manipulation.

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--- Comment #12 from Ken Sharp  ---
Does this still occur in Wine 9.8 or later?

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--- Comment #13 from Pascal  ---
Hello,
I can't say for sure that this is a bug.
As "Zeb Figura" says: Parentheses are a common notation for debit in
accounting.

For the moment I'm using wine version 9.0 on a debbian SID and it's currently
the only one available

apt-cache policy wine
wine:
  Installed: 9.0~repack-4
  Candidate: 9.0~repack-4

Thanks for your answer.
Pascal