http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20866
Summary: Houaiss Portuguese Dictionary (blocked window) Product: Wine Version: unspecified Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs@winehq.org ReportedBy: mrx@riseup.net
Hello friends. I appologize for disturbing you, I hope I'm not doing anything wrong by posting this thing here, but, I decided to try. I've been using Debian for about a year, and I've got a bit of a problem with an electronic dictionary which is very dear to me, since I work with texts... It's the Houaiss Portuguese Dictionary, made for Windows. All the other dictionaries I use run perfectly well in Wine, but this one has got some kind of strange bug. Sometimes, when I open it, it appears as a minimized window at the panel below. If you then click on it to maximize it, instead of a full screen window what you get is only a very narrow strip of window. If you click on its right-hand upper corner in order do maximize it, nothing happens. All you can do is close it. Then, if you run the programm again, the same thing will happen, no matter how many times you try. If you uninstall the software and re-install it completely, usually the same thing happens! A friend of mine wrote a script for me which has helped, since with it I usually can make it work again, but it's always a little bit annoying, since it doesn't work immediately, and you have to run the scrip a thousand times before the moody dictionary decides to work. The scrip I've been using to fix the problem runs as follows:
#!/bin/sh cp -a ~/.wine_working/* ~/.wine echo "old good wine restored..."
I'm no expert al all, as you can see, so if you could help me (and probably other portuguese speakers who use this dictionary) to definetely solve this problem I'd really appreciate! I thank you very much for your attention and help!
Zac
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--- Comment #1 from Vitaliy Margolen vitaliy@kievinfo.com 2009-11-29 11:30:44 --- What Wine version? Please attach (as a text file) complete terminal output of running the program.
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--- Comment #2 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-02 18:25:33 --- (In reply to comment #1)
What Wine version? Please attach (as a text file) complete terminal output of running the program.
Hello there! Thanks a lot for you help! I'm not sure if I know how to get the "complete terminal output of running the program". It's ridiculous, I know! I apologize for being so ignorant about that, but the fact is that I just don't know what you mean exactly, because I'm terrible! I'm always struggling with Gnu/Linux, so that I don't need to get back to Windows, but I confess that I'm not very good with computers... I'm trying to do my best, though.
The wine version is:
zac@debian:~$ wine --version wine-1.0.1-174-gc4039bd
Hope this helps!
If not, just tell me what I need to do to obtain the information you need and I'll do my best to get it.
Thank you very much! Zac
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Juan Lang juan_lang@yahoo.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|unspecified |1.0.1
--- Comment #3 from Juan Lang juan_lang@yahoo.com 2009-12-02 18:53:38 --- You should try with a more recent version of Wine. 1.1.33 is the current development release.
To get a log file, see the FAQ: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-a37de3282d447376d2220d20a278ae52258551a4 (Substitute the program you're running for tron.exe.)
Attach the log file here.
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--- Comment #4 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-02 19:35:55 --- Hi Juan Lang! Thanks a lot for your help! I suppose I managed to get the log file! It's pasted below! Many thanks!
About the wine version, I'm so naive that I thought I was using the up-to-date wine version simply because of regularly running apt-get update + apt-get upgrade on the terminal. After reading your comment it seems to me this is not as simple as that, is it? Oh, dear, that's embarrassing! What should I do to get the current development release? Is it just as stable as the one I'm using. I mean... the only problem I get is with this particular software. The rest works just fine. Anyway, here is the log file:
zac@debian:~$ cd '/home/zac/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Houaiss' zac@debian:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Houaiss$ wine Houaiss.exe fixme:ntdll:find_reg_tz_info Can't find matching timezone information in the registry for bias 180, std (d/m/y): 15/02/2009, dlt (d/m/y): 18/10/2009 fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGING: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGED: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGING: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGED: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGING: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGED: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGING: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGED: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGING: stub fixme:richedit:RichEditWndProc_common WM_STYLECHANGED: stub fixme:pager:PAGER_Create [0x1007e] Drag and Drop style is not implemented yet.
Is that it? I hope it helps! I just have no idea about what it means...
Thank you once more! I appreciate your help very much!
Zac
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Vitaliy Margolen vitaliy@kievinfo.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID
--- Comment #5 from Vitaliy Margolen vitaliy@kievinfo.com 2009-12-02 21:12:01 --- Please do not PASTE logs and back traces (attach them instead). You will have to upgrade your Wine to wine-1.1.33. Filing bugs for wine-1.0.1 makes no sense.
Reopen if the problem persists with new Wine version
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Vitaliy Margolen vitaliy@kievinfo.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED
--- Comment #6 from Vitaliy Margolen vitaliy@kievinfo.com 2009-12-02 21:12:08 --- Closing
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Juan Lang juan_lang@yahoo.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |UNCONFIRMED Resolution|INVALID |
--- Comment #7 from Juan Lang juan_lang@yahoo.com 2009-12-02 22:01:15 --- Vitaliy, I disagree. 1.0.1 is rather old, but it is our last stable release, and bugs against it are perfectly valid. With luck we'll release another stable release soon, but we haven't, and that's not the OP's fault.
Also, the log is rather small in this case, so I'd just as soon let that transgression go. Zac, in the future, we prefer that you attach the logs, especially as large ones get distracting rather quickly.
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--- Comment #8 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2009-12-03 02:33:42 --- (In reply to comment #7)
Vitaliy, I disagree. 1.0.1 is rather old, but it is our last stable release, and bugs against it are perfectly valid. With luck we'll release another stable release soon, but we haven't, and that's not the OP's fault.
I don't think we want to start considering bugs against 1.0.1 valid, unless verified it's in the latest development release/git HEAD.
Also, the log is rather small in this case, so I'd just as soon let that transgression go. Zac, in the future, we prefer that you attach the logs, especially as large ones get distracting rather quickly.
Agreed. Vitaliy, please don't close bugs just because they pasted a log in the bug comments.
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--- Comment #9 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-03 04:15:15 --- (In reply to comment #5)
Please do not PASTE logs and back traces (attach them instead). You will have to upgrade your Wine to wine-1.1.33. Filing bugs for wine-1.0.1 makes no sense.
Reopen if the problem persists with new Wine version
Vitaliy, I'm sorry. My mistake! The first time I posted the bug here I was more attentive to the site's rules. When I posted the log yesterday I was a little bit excited for simply being able to get the log, 'cause as I said I'm not very experienced. So I forgot I shouldn't paste it here, and I didn't see the warning above, even though I had read it the first time I posted the bug. Anyway, I learnt my lesson, and now have a clearer idea about what a log is. I appologize.
Thank you for your help.
(In reply to comment #7)
Vitaliy, I disagree. 1.0.1 is rather old, but it is our last stable release, and bugs against it are perfectly valid. With luck we'll release another stable release soon, but we haven't, and that's not the OP's fault.
I used to run Ubuntu and I changed to Debian because I heard it was more stable, and I do find it more stable. Maybe that's why I still have this 'rather old' wine version that came along with it and I think it doesn't get the newer versions uless you explicitly tell it to do so. I'll try to get the 1.1.33 version then, and if the bug persists I'll post it here. Juan, thank you very much for your attention and help.
Also, the log is rather small in this case, so I'd just as soon let that transgression go. Zac, in the future, we prefer that you attach the logs, especially as large ones get distracting rather quickly.
I appologize for the log, and appreciate your understanding. It won't happen again. Thanks!
Zac
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--- Comment #10 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-03 07:26:53 --- Created an attachment (id=25054) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=25054) houaiss_log_file
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--- Comment #11 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-03 08:21:25 --- Hi there!
I've got the 1.1.33 version.
The dictionary still doesn't work, although the nature of the problem seems to have changed. I attached the log-file as requested.
Another thing that happened now, though, is that my other dictionary, the OED (Oxford English Dictionary) became a little worse than it was with the 1.0.1 version. It is still working, and I still can use it, but some special characters are not being recognized (like some Greek characters, for instance) and the fonts in general became a little worse than before, they are not quite clear, they look a little distorted, although you can read them. I'd really like to have them as clear as before with this new version, but I don't know how I could fix that? Any suggestions?
Thank you very much! Zac.
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--- Comment #12 from Vitaliy Margolen vitaliy@kievinfo.com 2009-12-03 08:39:40 ---
The dictionary still doesn't work, although the nature of the problem seems to have changed.
So what is it now?
Another thing that happened now
One problem per bug please. Make sure you search bugzilla first for duplicates (ex. see bug 16729 for "little distorted" fonts problem).
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--- Comment #13 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-03 10:38:10 --- (In reply to comment #12)
The dictionary still doesn't work, although the nature of the problem seems to have changed.
So what is it now?
Well, ok. Sorry for that! One bug at a time.
When you run the software now, the window opens fine. It seems perfect. But if you try to maximize it, although it does maximize, it immediately crashes and gets stuck, you get a message saying 'External exception 80000101'. You can't even close the window properly, and you have to kill the process.
If you don't try to maximize it, though, when you type the very first letter of a word you wanna look up, you get the same error message. If you then click on OK for this message, you can type another letter of your word, only to receive the same message again. Sometimes you can go on with this until you have typed the full word, so that you can look it up, but at other times the software simply crashes again and you can't even close it properly.
I've already posted the log file for this new bug on my last comment.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, Zac.
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--- Comment #14 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-03 12:47:14 --- Hello,
In order to try to solve the new problem, I decided to fully uninstall the Houaiss Dictionary and re-install it from the cd, just to see what would happen, since it wasn't working anyway. I ran the executable file over the terminal and a the full screen installation process opened, but that's all. It got stuck there, no progress at all, completely stuck. I just can't install the software with the 1.1.33 wine version, so I suppose I was better off with the last stable version, on which this particular software still worked, although not perfectly well. I'm attaching the log file for the installation failure that occured with the new wine version. Anyway, I'm considering to keep to the 1.0.1 version, since I need this dictionary for my work and I can deal with the old bug by using the script my friend wrote for me. Of course it would be more interesting if I could definitely solve the problem, no matter what version I'd have to use. But with the older version I can usually get it to work with a bit of effort. What do you guys think? Which of the two bugs would you say is easier to fix?
Thank you very much! Zac
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--- Comment #15 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-03 12:49:32 --- Created an attachment (id=25061) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=25061) houaiss_installation_failure_1.1.33_wineversion
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--- Comment #16 from Juan Lang juan_lang@yahoo.com 2009-12-03 14:30:00 --- (In reply to comment #14)
I just can't install the software with the 1.1.33 wine version
That's a different bug. You might open a new bug for that.
What do you guys think? Which of the two bugs would you say is easier to fix?
Hard to say, especially since we don't have the program.
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--- Comment #17 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-03 17:34:20 ---
That's a different bug. You might open a new bug for that.
What do you guys think? Which of the two bugs would you say is easier to fix?
Hard to say, especially since we don't have the program.
Thanks for the advice Juan. For me the easiest thing to do is to keep running the 1.0.1 version, because then I have only one small problem to solve, and the software can still be used while I look for a solution. I re-installed the older version of wine and now things are fine again. The Houaiss Dictionary is working fine, and the OED is just perfect again, as it used to be. I'm sure the old bug I described in my first post will reappear, though, since I've been dealing with it for a long time. That's why I decided to look for your help. The 1.1.33 version brought me more problems than the older one (no Houaiss at all and a worse OED, with new bugs to solve)... Isn't it possible (and worth) to try to solve the problem with the 1.0.1 version, since, although a rather old version, it is the last stable release? Thank you once more for your attention and help. Zac
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--- Comment #18 from Juan Lang juan_lang@yahoo.com 2009-12-03 17:44:10 --- (In reply to comment #17)
Isn't it possible (and worth) to try to solve the problem with the 1.0.1 version, since, although a rather old version, it is the last stable release?
It's possible, but much for difficult for us since we don't have access to the program ourselves. At best we'd just be guessing. Without access to the program, what's more likely to happen is that the bug just doesn't get fixed, except perhaps accidentally.
What's really helpful for us is if you could: 1. Open a bug about the problems with the latest version, and flag that it's a regression. 2. If at all possible, perform a regression test to find out what broke between 1.0.1 and 1.1.33. Regression testing is described here: http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting
This process is a little time consuming, and it might be intimidating, but pinpointing exactly which patch breaks your program goes a long way to helping us find out what's causing the problem.
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--- Comment #19 from Zac mrx@riseup.net 2009-12-03 17:57:43 --- Ok, I'll arrange some time to do that for you as soon as I can, since you've been really helpful, and I'd really like to be able to help you guys solve this problem. Thank you very much, Juan! Talk to you soon! Zac.
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Vitaliy Margolen vitaliy@kievinfo.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |21920
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Bug 20866 depends on bug 21920, which changed state.
Bug 21920 Summary: Houaiss Portuguese Dictionary won't install http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21920
What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED
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Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |regression
--- Comment #20 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2011-11-16 13:48:00 CST --- This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for 1.5 years. Is this still an issue in current (1.3.32 or newer) wine?
If so, the regression test would be helpful.
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--- Comment #21 from Bruno Jesus 00cpxxx@gmail.com 2011-11-19 12:37:36 CST --- Created attachment 37534 --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=37534 Program version information
There is no version information about the program and no screenshots in the bug so I can't say I'm testing the same program version. I have Houaiss Portuguese Dictionary 1.0 from 2001.
I tested by opening it 10 times and couldn't get the minimized window behavior in 1.3.33.
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Frédéric Delanoy frederic.delanoy@gmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |frederic.delanoy@gmail.com
--- Comment #22 from Frédéric Delanoy frederic.delanoy@gmail.com 2012-02-01 07:00:03 CST --- Can you please retry in current wine (1.4-rc1 or later)?
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Bruno Jesus 00cpxxx@gmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC| |00cpxxx@gmail.com Resolution| |FIXED
--- Comment #23 from Bruno Jesus 00cpxxx@gmail.com 2012-02-04 16:56:11 CST --- (In reply to comment #22)
Can you please retry in current wine (1.4-rc1 or later)?
With my version of this program the problem seems still fixed in 1.4-rc2. I'll mark this as fixed since I'm the only tester, otherwise it would be left opened forever.
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Alexandre Julliard julliard@winehq.org changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED
--- Comment #24 from Alexandre Julliard julliard@winehq.org 2012-02-11 13:52:03 CST --- Closing bugs fixed in 1.4-rc3.
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