[Bug 57484] New: VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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Bug ID: 57484
           Summary: VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in
                    9.21
           Product: Wine
           Version: 9.22
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

I am using Wine-Staging from the WineHQ Repos on Ubuntu 24.04, and with Staging
9.22, my VKB Gunfighter Left is not detected if hidraw is enabled, but is
detected with Staging 9.21, or if I check the box to disable hidraw.

I reproduced this with a fresh wine prefix as well as an updated one.

I've seen reports that this is also impacting some VKB Gladiator users as well
on the Star Citizen Linux Users Group discord.

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #1 from Joseph  ---
Created attachment 77501
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Control Panel screenshot for 9.22

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #2 from Joseph  ---
Created attachment 77502
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Control Panel screenshot for Wine 9.21

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #3 from Joseph  ---
Created attachment 77504
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Control Panel Screenshot for 9.22 with hidraw disabled

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #4 from Joseph  ---
Created attachment 77506
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Output of evdev-joystick --l

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--- Comment #5 from Rémi Bernon  ---
Thanks, this is indeed one of the devices which I changed to prefer the hidraw
backend over evdev, as they've been reported on Proton as working well and
making it possible to use the VKB Windows application to configure them. This
is described in more details in https://github.com/ValveSoftware/wine/pull/197.

It unfortunately needs some udev rules to be setup to expose the devices as
hidraw in the first place, and if they aren't there we simply will ignore the
SDL/evdev devices, unless Wine hidraw backend is disabled (through the
checkbox).

I will have a better look whether we can detect if the udev rules are properly
setup before deciding to prefer hidraw over another backend.

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #6 from Joseph  ---
What's needed udev rule wise for this to work as intended?  Is it changing the
mode to "0660" and group "plugdev"?  I have a Stream Deck and have some of the
udev rules for that to work that I can use as a baseline to create rules for my
devices and similar ones.  Want to ensure I do it correctly.

Thank you.

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #7 from Rémi Bernon  ---
I think something like that would work for USB devices, with the idVendor and
idProduct adjusted. What matters is probably MODE="0660" and TAG+="uaccess":

```
# DualShock 4 over USB hidraw
KERNEL=="hidraw*", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="05c4",
MODE="0660", TAG+="uaccess"
```

When using a different subsystem like bluetooth the rule is slightly different:

```
# DualShock 4 over bluetooth hidraw
KERNEL=="hidraw*", KERNELS=="*054C:05C4*", MODE="0660", TAG+="uaccess"
```

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #8 from Joseph  ---
Thank you, I found some documentation on using `TAG+="uaccess"` instead of
static groups, so I'll see what I can get working.

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--- Comment #9 from Joseph  ---
Created attachment 77508
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Udev Rules

Alright, I quickly put together a set of udev rules for the devices I've owned
to add the `uaccess` tag to them for hidraw.  It does appear to be working at
least for the wine control panel and a quick test in Star Citizen appears to be
happy.

This should also help to resolve the issue with VKB having the copyright symbol
in their vendor field on older firmware and SC in Wine.

Overall this will be a good change in the long run to be able to unlock the
full potential of devices like those from VKB since it should let us use the
full 128 vbuttons they're capable of instead of the prior 78 or 79 it was
limited to with the event joystick.

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Joseph  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Joseph  ---
Created attachment 77511
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Udev Rules

Based on some input from the VKB discord, I updated the udev rules to set
`uaccess` on all devices with VKB's or VIRPIL's vendor ID.

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #11 from Joseph  ---
With Wine 10.0-RC1, my devices aren't being shown at all via the wine joy.cpl,
whether event or hidraw.  Should I file a new bug for it?

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #12 from Rémi Bernon  ---
Possibly bug 57524 (which is fixed in git)?

[Bug 57484] VKB Joystick not detected in Wine 9.22 but works in 9.21

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--- Comment #13 from Joseph  ---
Thank you, confirmed that it's working with my devices in 10.0-rc2