[Bug 53114] New: Crash of applications and games when out of focus

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53114

Bug ID: 53114
           Summary: Crash of applications and games when out of focus
           Product: Wine-staging
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: major
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

I don't know why this happens but every wine application I could test, they
need to stay on focus in the current virtual desktop (from the Desktop
Environment, not Wine's virtual desktop) or else they will simply close on
their own. I can't track to a specific cause because even with a completely new
prefix with no "helpers", Lutris and even Valve's own Proton, this happens. So
far I got the exact same result with The Sims 4, StarCraft 2 and Sonic After
the Sequel. All those games will close if I change to another virtual desktop,
let's say, desktop 2, if the apps themselves are on desktop 1. It also happened
with the releases but it persists with Staging as well. I don't know how to
backtrace this, as launching them through CLI didn't return anything useful and
I'm not sure if wine itself is what is crashing or the applications. I didn't
get the classic crash window either. They simply close.

[Bug 53114] Crash of applications and games when out of focus

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--- Comment #1 from Rafał Mużyło  ---
Is this a regression ?

How many apps did you test besides the mentioned ones ?

While wine (at least winex11.drv) doesn't handle desktop switches correctly (it
minimizes then restores instead of unmapping/remapping), this usually doesn't
result in the app terminating.

[Bug 53114] Crash of applications and games when out of focus

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--- Comment #2 from Rafał Mużyło  ---
...also, which window manager are you using ?

[Bug 53114] Crash of applications and games when out of focus

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--- Comment #3 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Rafał Mużyło from comment #2)
> ...also, which window manager are you using ?

I tested with two WMs and the same thing happens on both. Twin and Kwin. But
I'm not exactly sure if the WMs are causing this because it didn't happen
before. I am used to have this set up of different virtual desktops and wine
applications on one of them while I do stuff on the other one. While I did
observe it happening with Proton, I assumed it was because Valve's own
implementation of Wine got something wrong so I didn't care that much about it.
It only started happening outside of Proton when I started using a new
wineprefix. It's not generated by Lutris, PlayOnLinux, winetricks or anything.
I just nuked the prefix and created a new one by launching winecfg once. I
didn't do anything else with that prefix. The old prefix is gone, so I can't do
comparison between them.

[Bug 53114] Crash of applications and games when out of focus

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--- Comment #4 from [e-mail] ---
By the way, different display servers doesn't seem to have any effect
whatsoever. KWin is running on a Wayland session while TWin is on a X11 one, so
it happens on both

[Bug 53114] Crash of applications and games when out of focus

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--- Comment #5 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Rafał Mużyło from comment #1)
> Is this a regression ?
>
> How many apps did you test besides the mentioned ones ?
>
> While wine (at least winex11.drv) doesn't handle desktop switches correctly
> (it minimizes then restores instead of unmapping/remapping), this usually
> doesn't result in the app terminating.

Those are the only apps I use with Wine. I didn't test any other. At first I
thought there had something to do with The Sims 4 and StarCraft 2 originally
running in fullscreen but Sonic After the Sequel doesn't so it can't be that
either. Also believed it could have been how those apps handle being out of
focus but this only happens if they are in a different virtual desktop. If they
are just below another window, they don't close, from what I could see.

[Bug 53114] Crash of applications and games when out of focus

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--- Comment #6 from Rafał Mużyło  ---
AFAIK, wine doesn't have a pure wayland backend and (as you've mentioned
yourself) KWin - so a XWayland case, meaning still winex11.drv.

Anyway, my initial guess would go along you providing
WINEDEBUG="win,event,x11drv" output (likely someone else could suggest a better
selection of channels, but these seem a good start).

[Bug 53114] Crash of applications and games when out of focus

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--- Comment #7 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Rafał Mużyło from comment #6)
> AFAIK, wine doesn't have a pure wayland backend and (as you've mentioned
> yourself) KWin - so a XWayland case, meaning still winex11.drv.
>
> Anyway, my initial guess would go along you providing
> WINEDEBUG="win,event,x11drv" output (likely someone else could suggest a
> better selection of channels, but these seem a good start).

Following your instructions, I added that WINEDEBUG parameter in the
environment before running the app again and this is the output I got. I saw
lots of fixmes (which I assume are not related) and traces, although this time
there was something different at the bottom, two X Error of failed request. I
ran this on KWin. I'll make the same test on TWin as soon as possible to make
sure it is the same cause.

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--- Comment #8 from [e-mail] ---
Here's the output I forgot to attach: https://pastebin.com/5Z8QK4rB

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--- Comment #9 from Rafał Mużyło  ---
Technicality: logs should be attached, not be links to external resources.

As for the log, *I* can't tell much, but what I can tell is that those
minimize/restore paths appear to not be hit.

Though perhaps it's a UseTakeFocus problem ?
Does setting it to false ('N') either globally
(HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\X11 Driver) or for specific app (via app
compatibility keys) makes a difference (google for details) ?

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--- Comment #10 from [e-mail] ---
The entire key is missing on my end. It doesn't have a key for the x11 driver.

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--- Comment #11 from Austin English  ---
(In reply to ryu.ketsueki from comment #10)
> The entire key is missing on my end. It doesn't have a key for the x11
> driver.

It's not there by default.

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--- Comment #12 from [e-mail] ---
So do I create the key? As what value? String, Binary, DWORD, I have no idea.
All I know is that I have to put an N there

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--- Comment #13 from Austin English  ---
(In reply to ryu.ketsueki from comment #12)
> So do I create the key? As what value? String, Binary, DWORD, I have no
> idea. All I know is that I have to put an N there

If you have winetricks, the easiest way would be to run 'winetricks
usetakefocus=n'. Otherwise, use 'wine regedit' then edit like you would on
windows (value is a string).

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--- Comment #14 from [e-mail] ---
I did just that. App gets terminated same way. I also tried changing the type
of the window, after all this game allow you to change between Fulscreen,
Windowed Fullscreen and Windowed. Same result always. Output on konsole also
show the same error, so nothing changed with that new key. I also tried using
winetricks to input the key but there was no change.

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--- Comment #15 from CapSel  ---
Could you check if the crash is caused by touchpad multitouch gestures or by
alt+tab too?

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--- Comment #16 from Fedor  ---
(In reply to CapSel from comment #15)
> Could you check if the crash is caused by touchpad multitouch gestures or by
> alt+tab too?

I've just faced the same issue and it only occurs with touchpad multitouch
gestures. alt+tab works fine.

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--- Comment #17 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to CapSel from comment #15)
> Could you check if the crash is caused by touchpad multitouch gestures or by
> alt+tab too?

I don't think it is being caused by multitouch trackpad gestures. TWin is the
window manager from Trinity Desktop, a fork of KDE3 3.5 and it doesn't support
trackpad gestures for that, or if it does, I don't use it. I used keyboard
shortcuts to change to another virtual desktop there. So yeah, can confirm it
happens without gestures. I don't know if it has anything to do with how the
window is in another state when in a different virtual desktop but if it is in
the same, doesn't happen.

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--- Comment #18 from Fedor  ---
(In reply to Fedor from comment #16)
> (In reply to CapSel from comment #15)
> > Could you check if the crash is caused by touchpad multitouch gestures or by
> > alt+tab too?
>
> I've just faced the same issue and it only occurs with touchpad multitouch
> gestures. alt+tab works fine.

Forgot to mention the configuration:
System: Fedora 36
Environment: GNOME on Wayland
Wine version: wine-7.10 (Staging)
Application: World of Warcraft

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--- Comment #19 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to ryu.ketsueki from comment #17)
> (In reply to CapSel from comment #15)
> > Could you check if the crash is caused by touchpad multitouch gestures or by
> > alt+tab too?
>
> I don't think it is being caused by multitouch trackpad gestures. TWin is
> the window manager from Trinity Desktop, a fork of KDE3 3.5 and it doesn't
> support trackpad gestures for that, or if it does, I don't use it. I used
> keyboard shortcuts to change to another virtual desktop there. So yeah, can
> confirm it happens without gestures. I don't know if it has anything to do
> with how the window is in another state when in a different virtual desktop
> but if it is in the same, doesn't happen.

Correction. It IS being caused by touchpad gestures. TWin is no longer an
example of the bug in question. I also just opened an issue on KDE Bugzilla
because I don't think it would be feasible to fix this but on Wine side if it
is being caused by something on KWin side

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--- Comment #20 from [e-mail] ---
A possible workaround for this issue on KDE side is being made. You can check
the merge request here:

https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/2651

What it appears to be happening is that WM gestures are being passed on to
applications, which triggers the wine applications to terminate for not knowing
what to do. Of course it is not a perfect solution, as we still have to figure
out what is happening on Wine side but at least is an effort to prevent that
from happening on Plasma, which does run as desktop mode for the Steam Deck.
Now I don't know what can be done for this issue to be avoided on Gnome as
well, at least for the time being. If someone has already reported it to Gnome
devs, please post here.

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--- Comment #21 from [e-mail] ---
I just want to add that this is not specific to Plasma as it also happens on
Gnome, and it's also not specific to the 3 finger swipe gestures, I have
noticed that it also happens with e.g. pinch-in/-out gestures, but those aren't
so problematic as they don't have other intended functions.

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--- Comment #22 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to albertgeanta from comment #21)
> I just want to add that this is not specific to Plasma as it also happens on
> Gnome, and it's also not specific to the 3 finger swipe gestures, I have
> noticed that it also happens with e.g. pinch-in/-out gestures, but those
> aren't so problematic as they don't have other intended functions.

Yeah, it exists on Gnome too. I don't use Gnome and don't know how to report
the issue to them so if anyone can, so they can come up with a workaround until
Wine can find an actual fix...

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--- Comment #23 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to ryu.ketsueki from comment #22)
> (In reply to albertgeanta from comment #21)
> > I just want to add that this is not specific to Plasma as it also happens on
> > Gnome, and it's also not specific to the 3 finger swipe gestures, I have
> > noticed that it also happens with e.g. pinch-in/-out gestures, but those
> > aren't so problematic as they don't have other intended functions.
>
> Yeah, it exists on Gnome too. I don't use Gnome and don't know how to report
> the issue to them so if anyone can, so they can come up with a workaround
> until Wine can find an actual fix...

I did submit an issue: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2353

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--- Comment #24 from [e-mail] ---
This issue can currently be worked around with the following command:
```
xinput list --name-only | grep ^xwayland-pointer-gestures | xargs -n1 xinput
disable
```
Please note that this will disable touchpad gestures for ALL X11 applications.
To revert this, run the same command with `disable` replaced with `enable`.

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--- Comment #25 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to msizanoen from comment #24)
> This issue can currently be worked around with the following command:
> xinput list --name-only | grep ^xwayland-pointer-gestures | xargs -n1 xinput
> disable
>
> Please note that this will disable touchpad gestures for ALL X11
> applications. To revert this, run the same command with `disable` replaced
> with `enable`.

Thanks a lot this workaround is great, as I only use xwayland for games
anyways!

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--- Comment #26 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to msizanoen from comment #24)
> This issue can currently be worked around with the following command:
> xinput list --name-only | grep ^xwayland-pointer-gestures | xargs -n1 xinput
> disable
>
> Please note that this will disable touchpad gestures for ALL X11
> applications. To revert this, run the same command with `disable` replaced
> with `enable`.

Thanks for the workaround ! Is there a way to make this persist through
reboots?

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--- Comment #27 from Aman Das  ---
(In reply to mistermagio from comment #26)
> (In reply to msizanoen from comment #24)
> > This issue can currently be worked around with the following command:
> > xinput list --name-only | grep ^xwayland-pointer-gestures | xargs -n1 xinput
> > disable
> >
> > Please note that this will disable touchpad gestures for ALL X11
> > applications. To revert this, run the same command with `disable` replaced
> > with `enable`.
>
> Thanks for the workaround ! Is there a way to make this persist through
> reboots?

I was struggling to apply the workaround persistently too. Found a solution:
add an `Xinput-Disable-XWayland-Gestures.desktop` file to
`~/.config/autostart/` to run the command at startup.

Its content should be like:

```
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Exec=xinput disable xwayland-pointer-gestures:16
Icon=/usr/share/icons/Papirus-Dark/64x64@2x/apps/libinput-gestures.svg
Name=Xinput-Disable-XWayland-Gestures
Comment=Fix Wine Crash on Gesture Use
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true
```

Edit the `Exec=...` line according your own output of `xinput list --name-only
| grep ^xwayland-pointer-gestures`

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--- Comment #28 from Capybara  ---
The Xwayland wine touchpad gesture crash should be stopped by this fix recently
merged into xserver.

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/1215