[Bug 17936] New: Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

Summary: Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.1.18
          Platform: PC-x86-64
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=20271)
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Excerpt from output with WINEDEBUG=font

I just updated Qimage (http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage) to version 2009.209
and the UI displays with the wrong font. For some reason the Wine font engine
thinks that Arial Black is a better match for the requested font than Arial,
which is what the app asks for and what it gets with Windows.

If I physically delete the ariblk.ttf file, it will use Arial as desired.

It did this with the 1.1.14 version in my distro (Fedora 9 64-bit) and also
with 1.1.18 freshly compiled from source.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #1 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-02 22:46:04 ---
Are you sure that Arial is installed?

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #2 from Steve Rencontre   2009-04-03 03:12:06 ---
Yes, Arial is definitely installed.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

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--- Comment #3 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-03 08:39:05 ---
Please attach full +font log.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #4 from Steve Rencontre   2009-04-03 09:23:46 ---
Created an attachment (id=20273)
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Zipped log with WINEDEBUG=font (25MB unzipped!)

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #5 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-04 04:39:45 ---
There is no line with "Chosen: L"Arial" L"Black"" in the log, neither I don't
see where Arial is being replaced by Arial Black.

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--- Comment #6 from Steve Rencontre   2009-04-06 15:40:48 ---
Created an attachment (id=20318)
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Wine log showing choice of Arial Black for Arial

My apologies, I think that must have been a log from when I tried moving the
Arial Black font file out of the way.

Here's a correct one.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #7 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-07 00:22:50 ---
I wrote a test program which passes exactly same parameters as in your log
and I can't reproduce the problem here.

Where have you got from your ariblk.ttf font file? It looks pretty
much unusual (if not broken): its font name should be "Arial Black"
not "Arial" "Black".

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #8 from Steve Rencontre   2009-04-07 03:35:29 ---
This is the exact same file as on a Windows XP Pro installation.

FWIW, the Windows font viewer shows the name as "Arial Black" while KFontview
has "Arial, Black". I don't know enough about the inner workings of OpenType to
tell the significance of that.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #9 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-07 05:36:38 ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> This is the exact same file as on a Windows XP Pro installation.
> FWIW, the Windows font viewer shows the name as "Arial Black" while KFontview
> has "Arial, Black". I don't know enough about the inner workings of OpenType to
> tell the significance of that.

You have 2 ariblk.ttf files installed in your system:
/usr/share/fonts/webcore/ariblk.ttf.xxx (which is OK)
and
/home/steve/.wine/dosdevices/c:/windows/Fonts/ariblk.ttf (which is broken).

Please remove the latter one.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #10 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-07 05:39:24 ---
Jfyi, I copied ariblk.ttf from my XP install and still can't reproduce
this problem.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #11 from Steve Rencontre   2009-04-07 06:47:39 ---
Ah, yes they are different. I thought that by appending .xxx to the filename I
was making it invisible to the font engine, not that it was still finding it
but not misusing it.

However, when you say it's "broken", it's Microsoft who have broken it. A bit
of Googling shows other people having some problems with this version (2.40)
purely in Windows, eg,

http://forums.techarena.in/windows-update/967926.htm

It seems to be fixed there too by reverting to the older version (2.35) which
is what I've got in webcore, but that's obviously a workaround rather than a
solution.

AIUI, the update is part of XP SP3, so if you haven't installed that, it would
explain why your Windows version didn't misbehave.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #12 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-07 08:35:05 ---
I have the XP SP3 installed, but the problems with HTML rendering under
Windows have nothing to do with this bug.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #13 from Steve Rencontre   2009-04-07 09:08:33 ---
I'm not sure I understand.

Are you saying that you have ariblk.ttf version 2.40 dated 1-1-2007,
CRC32=f6253264 and it works fine for you?

I'm not suggesting that HTML rendering is directly relevant, merely that it's
one example (and not the only one) of version 2.40 causing problems which were
not present with 2.35. That is, it's not simply that I've got a corrupt font
file, but MS have changed something and some software has a problem with that
change. There may be other factors, of course, and perhaps the problem is not
triggered in all circumstances.

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #14 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-07 11:12:54 ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> I'm not sure I understand.
> Are you saying that you have ariblk.ttf version 2.40 dated 1-1-2007,
> CRC32=f6253264 and it works fine for you?

Yes, it's version 2.40

C:\WINNT\Fonts>md5sum ariblk.ttf
cd5be9b2c6cdf620fb47f7ca7431dc58 *ariblk.ttf

ariblk.ttf 118832 bytes 02.01.07 03:58

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #15 from Steve Rencontre   2009-04-07 11:36:26 ---
Well there's /something/ funny going on:
> C:\WINNT\Fonts>md5sum ariblk.ttf
> cd5be9b2c6cdf620fb47f7ca7431dc58 *ariblk.ttf

$ md5sum ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/Fonts/ariblk.ttf
cd5be9b2c6cdf620fb47f7ca7431dc58 
/home/steve/.wine/drive_c/windows/Fonts/ariblk.ttf

If I delete the file, Arial displays properly; if it's present, it does not.

I've now realised that my original association of the problem with a Qimage
update was just accidental - reinstalling the previous Qimage version doesn't
change anything, and other apps which try to use Arial behave in the same way.

Is there any other information I can provide to help identify why I'm having a
different experience to you?

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #16 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-04-08 04:08:25 ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> Is there any other information I can provide to help identify why I'm having a
> different experience to you?

What's the FreeType version installed in your system? What distro are you
using?

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #17 from Steve Rencontre   2009-04-08 08:17:43 ---
(In reply to comment #16)

FreeType is 2.3.7, distro is Fedora 10 x86_64 (I just upgraded from Fedora 9
for other reasons but it made no difference to this problem).

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #18 from Austin English   2009-10-12 14:55:56 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.31 or newer) wine?

[Bug 17936] Wine chooses Arial Black instead of Arial font

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936

--- Comment #19 from Steve Rencontre   2009-10-12 18:55:15 ---
(In reply to comment #18)

I don't know. I deleted the ariblk.ttf file to make the problem go away and
haven't had any need to reinstate it. Moreover, the current distro version of
Wine is 1.1.29, so I can't say what a later version might do.

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--- Comment #20 from Scott Ritchie   2010-08-03 17:10:56 ---
I think this bug looks abandoned since we weren't quite able to reproduce it
and it doesn't look like it's affecting any specific application.  If you see
it again please feel free to reopen.

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--- Comment #21 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2010-08-03 21:49:08 ---
Closing abandoned.