[Bug 30561] New: Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

Bug #: 30561
           Summary: Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole
           Product: Wine
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
    Classification: Unclassified

Orthodox file managers, such as Far Manager, DN and etc. use hardwired
Alt-F1/Alt-F2 shortcuts for calling disk menu. These are the most frequently
used ones and there should be a way to processes them in wineconsole
application instead of giving up the control to system.

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

Jerome Leclanche  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Jerome Leclanche  2012-05-01 03:02:33 CDT ---
Dupe of bug 24107 I'd think. Someone revert if it's not.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 24107 ***

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

anatoly techtonik  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from anatoly techtonik  2012-05-01 03:27:13 CDT ---
That's not a duplicate. #24107 is about GUI application I believe and this one
is about applications managed by wineconsole window.

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

--- Comment #3 from Jerome Leclanche  2012-05-01 03:28:11 CDT ---
If your window manager intercepts the keybind, it doesn't matter whether it's
gui or not, the keybind gets intercepted and wine never receives it.

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

--- Comment #4 from anatoly techtonik  2012-05-01 03:31:43 CDT ---
SDL games under Linux can intercept those keys. Why wineconsole is different?

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

Alexandre Julliard  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Alexandre Julliard  2012-05-01 03:39:15 CDT ---
Wineconsole can't know which keys are important to the program, it would have
to intercept everything and break all window manager actions.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 24107 ***

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

anatoly techtonik  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from anatoly techtonik  2012-05-01 03:51:14 CDT ---
You are not right. Wineconsole is a tool with command line parameters and it
can be told what keys are important for the program, so there is a way for it
to know that. This is what this report is about.

It is possible to specify from command line, which system key combinations are
vital for the program. --keys-exclusive="AltF1 AltF2" - would be nice.

Another way is like VirtualBox does - intercepts all keyboard input in windowed
mode unless you press a certain master key (for example, RCtrl). wineconsole
can have another command line parameter like --master-key for switching in/out
of exclusive mode.

There is a third way - use context menu on the wineconsole screen to configure
exclusive keys and persist the configuration.

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

--- Comment #7 from anatoly techtonik  2012-05-01 03:52:56 CDT ---
So, there are at least 3 ways to make Far Manager and other similar tools
usable through Wine without sacrificing anything.

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http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

Alexandre Julliard  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Artem S. Tashkinov  2012-05-01 04:54:08 CDT ---
Strangely Alt+F1 and Alt+F2 work just fine for me.

It seems like your DE or Window Manager has these shortcuts assigned for
something else, and if it's the case, I don't think you should blame Wine - fix
your keyboards shortcuts at first.

In Windows, I believe, you cannot even assign system level shortcuts to
applications, e.g. try to make any application react to Win+R - your app just
won't be able to intercept this shortcut unless the app reads events directly
from the keyboard driver.

I guess this bug is INVALID/WONTFIX.

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

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Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Vitaliy Margolen  2012-05-01 07:55:37 CDT ---
Work fine here as well. Configure your window manager to not use Alt-F1,
Alt-F2.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 24107 ***

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Vitaliy Margolen  2012-05-01 07:57:16 CDT ---
Tested with far2 and wine-1.5.3.

Closing duplicate.

Wine can't and won't intercept all keys for a sake of it. It's expensive and
highly unreliable. Regardless how much applications this might break.

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

--- Comment #11 from anatoly techtonik  2012-05-01 10:09:18 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> Strangely Alt+F1 and Alt+F2 work just fine for me.

Try GNOME 3.
> In Windows, I believe, you cannot even assign system level shortcuts to
> applications, e.g. try to make any application react to Win+R - your app just
> won't be able to intercept this shortcut unless the app reads events directly
> from the keyboard driver.

Read above. VirtualBox is able to cope with that even on Windows, and I can't
see why wineconsole can't do that too.
> I guess this bug is INVALID/WONTFIX.

I'd leave it as enhancement until somebody proves it is not feasible.

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--- Comment #12 from anatoly techtonik  2012-05-01 10:20:56 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> Work fine here as well. Configure your window manager to not use Alt-F1,
> Alt-F2.

I'd like to avoid touching global configuration if there is a way to override
that only for a single window.

(In reply to comment #10)
> Tested with far2 and wine-1.5.3.

Far2, Wine 1.5.1, Fedora 16 stable.
> Closing duplicate.
>
> Wine can't and won't intercept all keys for a sake of it. It's expensive and
> highly unreliable. Regardless how much applications this might break.

Your logic is contradicting. "Wine can't" and "It's expensive" are mutually
exclusive. Can you tell why VirtualBox is reliable? Can you confirm that
wineconsole and wine in your context are the same thing (I speak only about
wineconsole)?

Unless there is a proof for a serious technical problem I'd like to keep this
as an enhancement. There are chances that somebody finds a way to copy/paste
relevant code from VirtualBox and make the behaviour optional.

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

--- Comment #13 from Jerome Leclanche  2012-05-01 10:24:39 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #12)
I'd recommend not having an open-close war with the people who actually work on
those areas...

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

--- Comment #14 from anatoly techtonik  2012-05-01 14:09:52 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> (In reply to comment #12)
> I'd recommend not having an open-close war with the people who actually work on
> those areas...

Sorry, but this tracker enforces this workflow. In Roundup you have 'chatting'
status. In Launchpad it is a known problem that is also addressed -
https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/CloseBugsLeaveDiscussionsOpen

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30561

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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--- Comment #15 from Vitaliy Margolen  2012-05-01 18:53:12 CDT ---
If you want a won't fix then it will be won't fix.
Wine does not and will not intercept keyboard events like vmware does. Wine is
not a virtual machine. And console emulator is not a game that intercepts all
keyboard events.

[Bug 30561] Intercept Alt-F1/Alt-F2 combinations in wineconsole

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Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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--- Comment #16 from Vitaliy Margolen  2012-05-01 18:53:46 CDT ---
Please don't reopen or we'll be forced to ban your account from Wine bugzilla.