[Bug 22948] New: Caesar3: there is only black screen and playing sounds.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22948

Summary: Caesar3: there is only black screen and playing
                    sounds.
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.2-rc1
          Platform: x86-64
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=28406)
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wine output from caesar 3

When I starts the game, I can hear sounds from intro video an main theme. But
no graphics here.

[Bug 22948] Caesar3: there is only black screen and playing sounds.

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--- Comment #1 from Austin English   2010-05-30 00:34:50 ---
(From update of attachment 28406)
Please use .txt extension in the future.

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--- Comment #2 from GyB   2010-05-30 03:29:06 ---
Confirming the bug: both the demo and the GoG.com version of the game is
affected. Wine-1.2-rc2 shows the same issue, too.

Last working version: 1.1.40

Result of regression testing:

914c8cb8ea1e5cbcfa18558961185dd94313b26d is the first bad commit
commit 914c8cb8ea1e5cbcfa18558961185dd94313b26d
Author: Henri Verbeet 
Date:   Wed Mar 17 21:59:49 2010 +0100

ddraw: Acquire/release the focus window from the correct location.

:040000 040000 7b888e2899b0ce7578c776287fcd5d5597d3625e
db3c70fcea916fc051b1d6b5f19a5e9b4175a6a2 M    dlls
:040000 040000 3fa4b272bdfcdd6f386e8b968a26497aae09d789
31ebd3615f1d2bbbbc991e191c813d77fc16635e M    include

Reverting the patch on top of Wine-1.2-rc2 fixed the issue.

Actually, this is a dupe of bug #22754

Link to the demo:
http://games.softpedia.com/progDownload/Caesar-III-Download-42405.html

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--- Comment #3 from Austin English   2010-05-30 11:16:32 ---
Not necessarily a dupe, Roller Coaster Tycoon crashes, here's only a black
screen.

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--- Comment #4 from Henri Verbeet   2010-05-31 13:05:44 ---
Looks like it expects to see the WM_SIZE message from switching the window to
fullscreen.

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--- Comment #5 from Wylda   2010-05-31 16:39:40 ---

Could be the Status changed to NEW based on comment #2?

--private keyword: bisected

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--- Comment #6 from Austin English   2010-05-31 20:06:57 ---
Confirming.

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--- Comment #7 from Jörg Höhle   2010-06-06 01:17:39 ---
Can you please elaborate on the specific effects of this commit, in light of
the background information given in bug #15881, comment #14 ?

Here's how I managed to use Casear 3 with wine-1.2rc2.
1. wine explorer /desktop=Caesar,640x480
   Watch the still images and intro video, everything seems perfect.
   Start a game, select 1024x768 resolution.  Black borders at the bottom
   and right, mouse displacement. Hit Esc to exit the game
2. wine explorer /desktop=Caesar,1024x768
   Now the videos manages to display in this virtual desktop (even though
   it's a small 500x300 animation surrounded by huge black borders, but
   it's rendered correctly).
   Play, the screen now displays correctly at 1024x768.
   Everything works well except from the "button visual feedback lag
   when hovering" effect.

As I explained in bug #15881, the key is the correspondence between Wine's
initial resolution and the default or previous setting from the game.

Alas, depending on your monitor's resolution, this means you cannot play
Caesar3 in full screen (i.e. without virtual desktop) like you could with older
versions of Wine.  Fullscreen now works only if you use xrandr -s <N> to switch
resolutions to Caesar's last used one before you start it.

Once you've got this working setup, don't switch resolutions in the game, or
you'll again get a black screen.  F6 does not help to recover from it as it
used to do.
Curiously, the "exit Imperium?" requester that appears if you press Esc is
rendered normally.

Wine-1.1.16 behaves a little better than wine-1.2rc2:
+ It manages to work with fullscreen mode even though the monitor's
  resolution is >1024x768 . When started using
  wine explorer /desktop=640x480 c3.exe /cd=D:\
  it will resize its window to its last saved (or default) value.
+ No mouse lag (at 102x768).
- Unability to switch resolutions correctly afffects both, and
- mouse vs. a button's visual feedback displacement.

[Bug 22948] Caesar3: there is only black screen and playing sounds.

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--- Comment #8 from Jörg Höhle   2010-06-06 01:26:19 ---
To answer my question myself, it seems that the regression that commit
914c8cb8ea1e5cbcfa18558961185dd94313b26d introduced in 1.1.41 is the unability
to recover from a resolution change by pressing F6 once or twice.

Remember that F6 is supposed to toggle window mode in Caesar 3, Pharaoh,
Cleopatra and Emperor.  This regression also affects those apps.

After starting with wine explorer /desktop=Imperium,1024x768 c3.exe,
switching to a smaller resolution causes a black screen. Prior to that
commit, pressing F6

- once yields a pink&green window of size the desired resolution
   inside the virtual desktop, displaying 2 tiny views of the game side
   by side -- independent on this commit;

- twice resizes Wine's desktop to the desired size, graphics now ok
   (mouse lag still present at 1024x768).
   Since this commit, the screen remains black.

It is also this commit that causes a black screen when using Wine in fullscreen
mode with a monitor whose initial resolution is > 1024x768.

I don't understand why different apps in Wine appear to have different ways of
switching to full screen.  I'd have naively expected all to be mapped by
winex11 to a unique behaviour.  Caesar3 etc. initially draws an almost black
screen, except the Gnome panels are still present in Ubuntu Intrepid while the
app displays the still pictures prior to the animations.   Most other apps
cause no such behaviour, the Gnome panels disappear immediately.
A race condition?

In summary, several distinct regressions affect the Caesar3/Pharaoh/Emperor
games. It would be interesting to analyse whether another one causes the
inability to use windowed mode (cf. the pink&purple window).

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--- Comment #9 from Asem Adel   2010-06-27 09:52:33 ---
Hi i had this problem after i in stalled the game in ubuntu 10.04 machine
the way i resolved this problem was really simple

just switch work space to any vacant one using ctrl+alt+right(or left) then
switch back to the previous one then you will get it working!!

PS. done the same with pharaoh game.

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--- Comment #10 from Nikolay Epifanov  2010-12-23 13:18:08 CST ---
All in all, to get it working:
- start the game and hit F9 several times for it to go to 1024x768 resolution;
- push Esc and exit game;
- set display resolution with "xrandr -s 1024x768";
- start the game.
It should be working fullscreen after that. Checked in Ubuntu Lucid.

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--- Comment #11 from Emanuele  2011-06-19 11:07:21 CDT ---
Still present in Wine 1.3.21, Pharaoh Cleopatra Queen of The Nile and renderer:

OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (CYPRESS 6899) 20090101  TCL DRI2

About video -> no luck even with F9 trick.
About generic game screens -> F9 trick show screens but not at full screen only
in window mode. Anyway the game is unplayable because mouse is totally
misplaced.

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--- Comment #12 from Henri Verbeet  2011-06-19 11:32:04 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (CYPRESS 6899) 20090101  TCL DRI2

Not related to this bug, but you really want to be using the Gallium r600
drivers instead of the "classic" ones.

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--- Comment #13 from Emanuele  2011-06-19 13:50:17 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> (In reply to comment #11)
> > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (CYPRESS 6899) 20090101  TCL DRI2
>
> Not related to this bug, but you really want to be using the Gallium r600
> drivers instead of the "classic" ones.

OT - thank you Henri and I must say I totally agree with you.
Anyway I use to play Guild Wars and some other games on Linux and unfortunately
a lot of Opengl extension in the stable branch of Gallium, are not supported :(

In many games with Gallium 0.4 I'm obtaining a blue screen with blue object
moving... something like old Amiga (best machine) graphics :)

Mesa drivers are slooow but really more compatible than ATI drivers.

Anyway that bug with Cleopatra and Caesar 3 is strange: a simple 2D game which
stops Wine and the mouse is floating in some other dimension :)

Maybe some substitution of dx file can succeed but unfortunately I have no time
to try/test.

Happy evening!

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--- Comment #14 from Henri Verbeet  2011-07-22 10:25:20 CDT ---
Should be fixed by 84413298de371a9e9b9ecfe0dd01f580b7521222.

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--- Comment #15 from GyB  2011-07-22 11:23:48 CDT ---
Caesar 3 starts normally in wine-1.3.24-345-g3e5793e. Tried the game in both
virtual desktop mode and fullscreen.
Lords of the Realm 2 was also affected by this regression: the problem has gone
away in LotR 2 using the current git version.

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--- Comment #16 from Austin English  2011-07-22 23:48:31 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> Caesar 3 starts normally in wine-1.3.24-345-g3e5793e. Tried the game in both
> virtual desktop mode and fullscreen.
> Lords of the Realm 2 was also affected by this regression: the problem has gone
> away in LotR 2 using the current git version.

Fixed.

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Alexandre Julliard  changed:

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--- Comment #17 from Alexandre Julliard  2011-08-05 12:38:24 CDT ---
Closing bugs fixed in 1.3.26.

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