[Bug 9263] New: Guild Wars terribly slow

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Summary: Guild Wars terribly slow
           Product: Wine
           Version: 0.9.42.
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: wine-directx
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Hi there, I am pretty new to this, so don't bash me if i did something wrong. I
looked in the bugs, and there were some regarding Guild Wars running not at
all, but my problem is something different:

Guild Wars starts pretty normally, then after connected to arena net, the main
game window appears in a few seconds-minutes. Then it becomes real carnage,
slideshow, i mean, horrible mess, like 1 frame per 5 seconds.

SW Wine configuration:
tried alternatives for Win98,W2K,WXP settings for GW.exe; tried -dx8, -opengl
(doesnt work at all), -dx9 swithes, tried -noshaders, nosound, dsound, nothing
helped.

Distro: Elive Gem 1.0. - basically Debian Etch

HW: 
AMD64 3000+ on ondemand k8 powernow module
512 MB ram
ati Radeon 9550 128MB graphics card
(these should not be the limits, since game runs smooth on windows)

I will post any log or anything, just tell me what to do. Thanks.
Peter

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--- Comment #1 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-08-13 20:36:01 ---
Slow, but works - minor

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--- Comment #2 from Mitchell Wheeler   2007-10-13 18:32:25 ---
Considering that many people will soon be merging over to multi-core CPUs in
the near future, and my 4800+ AM2, w/ 8800GTS runs at an average of 3FPS (this
is a CPU / File IO limitation, not a GPU limitation however), I would NOT call
this minor.

The issue seems to be the fact that Guild Wars stores all of it's data in a
single, giant file...  (many gigabytes, currently 3.4gig on a fresh install) 
I'm assuming there's something in the wine kernel, or file IO functions that
isn't handling very big (2GB+) files very well, especially with multi-core
CPUs.

This issue is less obvious with faster, single core CPUs...  for example my
partner's 3200+ runs quite a lot faster (with a 6600GT) than my 4800+ AM2 w/ an
8800GTS.  (System configuration, and wine configuration is identical besides
CPU and GPU - very little noticeable difference between versions 0.9.45 -
0.9.47)

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*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

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--- Comment #4 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-21 16:44:33 ---
Guild wars runs quite fast for me, ~85% of windows performance at -dx8 with arb
shaders and glsl off. I did not yet benchmark -dx9, but it does not feel
noticeably slow. This is on a Geforce 7400 and an intel core 2 duo cpu.

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--- Comment #5 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 10:05:13 ---
Hello,

i wrote some things to the wine-users maillinglist related to this problem. At
the moment i can make only presumptions.

1. It could be because you have only 512 MB RAM like me, so Guild Wars is using
the 'slow' swap really fast (This presumption wouldn't change the fact that,
when i'm using windows the game is running really fast and in windows i have
only 512 MB Ram, too). So if you have money, you could try it with more Ram
(still this problem needs to be fixed)

2. I added some profiling logs to the wine-users maillinglist, if helpful i can
attach them here, too. My Second presumption is, it has something to do that
Guild Wars is storing it's game data in one Big file (3,6 GB) and
'PERHAPS/MAYBE/EVENTUALLY' wine isn't handling 'reads' to that file 'good'. If
i higher the read ahead with hdparm, like someone was suggesting, i have a
little performance improvement (but still that's tuning and not fixing the
problem).

3.) My last presumtion is, that it's direct3d related, because Guild Wars is
using much d3d things maybe there's a function handling things not very well.

Again, if it helps i offer some profiling logs, just let me know or look into
the wine-users archive month: November, subject: [Wine] Big files; Slow I/O
There you can see what i've tried, and logs i added.

Cheers

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--- Comment #6 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-24 10:28:29 ---
It is easy to see if swap is the cause of the problem: Just see if there is a
lot of hard drive activity while playing. A little activity is ok, but if the
HD is constantly busy you're memory limited.

Please attach profiling logs to the bug, or post a clear link into the
archives.

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--- Comment #7 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 10:31:47 ---
Created an attachment (id=9315)
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profiling log with -dx8

This is it with directx8

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--- Comment #8 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 10:32:37 ---
Created an attachment (id=9316)
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profiling log with -dx8

as explained above, now with -dx9

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--- Comment #9 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 10:34:32 ---
Hello again,

click through the following link to get an impression what i've tried  ;-)

http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2007-November/028258.html

Also top shows a wait between 20 and 60% and a cpu load of 100%

And again: As it's running in windows fine with the same amount of RAM i don't
think it's because of swaping.

If i can provider other useful informations, please tell me.

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--- Comment #10 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 10:54:20 ---
Hello

me again, want to write some additional informations on this, too:

I have an Athlon XP 2600+ running at 1,9 GHz, other Games are running pretty
fast. I'm using a Source-Based Distribution (Lunar Linux) so everything is a
bit optimized. It's a 2.6 Kernel.

The wine version i used was 0.9.49

I tried:
 - Changing some DLLs to native
 - Changing the Harddisc (udma100, udma133, dma enabled, the harddisc were
really fast)
 - Changing the filesystem (tried ext3, xfs and reiserfs, usally i use ext3 or
xfs)
 - Tried a bit tuning with hdparm

nothing of that helped really, it's possible to improve the speed of the game a
bit by the above tuning, but it's not fixing the problem itself (the slowness).

Please tell me if other informations would be helpful, too.

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--- Comment #11 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-24 10:56:47 ---
Please check if you can see any hard disk activity during playing

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--- Comment #12 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 11:06:46 ---
okay, checked with -dx8 - there's nearly no activity. busy time is between 0
and 10% while playing. (usally at 6%)

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--- Comment #13 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-24 11:31:49 ---
In both profilings a lot of time is spent in HEAP_FindSubHeap. I doubt this
should happen, but I have no idea what could cause that. Something seems to do
a huge amount of HeapAlloc, HeapFree and HeapReAlloc calls.

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--- Comment #14 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 11:41:40 ---
Created an attachment (id=9317)
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-all,+heap

heap/trace

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--- Comment #15 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 11:42:54 ---
if i enable +heap to the log file the game is unusable slow, also after some
seconds running the game, that file is 10 MB big. So i think, yes there are
much of it. Attached you'll find some of that lines.

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--- Comment #16 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-24 11:47:20 ---
Oh, +heap logs get very big. Yet alone starting notepad gives a 0.5 mb log, and
notepad is rather small

A +heap trace doesn't give really useful information. What would be helpful is
a oprofile profiling which keeps track of function calls, so we can see from
where the heap functions are called. No idea how to do that though - there's
some parameter like -recursive or similar.

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--- Comment #17 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 12:14:09 ---
this problem begins to annoy me, because no body knows where the problem could
be.. any wine developer arround who could help? ;)

Anyway. i attach two other oprofile outputs.. maybe they help

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--- Comment #18 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 12:15:02 ---
Created an attachment (id=9319)
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hopefully more detailed oprofile log

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--- Comment #19 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 12:16:14 ---
Created an attachment (id=9322)
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callgraph

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--- Comment #20 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-24 12:19:49 ---
The problem is somewhere else this time: In the sound libs

Can you try to disable all sound drivers in winecfg?

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--- Comment #21 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 12:21:40 ---
/usr/src/wine-0.9.49/dlls/ntdll/heap.c:388 /usr/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so
HEAP_FindSubHeap

That is still there. Yep i try to disable sound. moment.

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--- Comment #22 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 12:26:27 ---
Created an attachment (id=9323)
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callgraph with disabled sound in winecfg and -nosound switch

it's faster without sound, but it's still slow.

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--- Comment #23 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 12:27:08 ---
Created an attachment (id=9324)
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again with sound disabled - the detailed one

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--- Comment #24 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 12:37:56 ---
Also.. i wouldn't call this problem "minor" it's an online game, if it's slow
or hanging in some situations, especially in pvp you're having a problem thus -
the game is not usable during this problem in some situations.

Also i don't think that "component" is wine-directx ... This HEAP problem has
nothing to do with directx, or?

Perhaps there are some more problems and all in one doing this hanging
(heap+sound+d3d) *shrugs*

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--- Comment #25 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-11-24 12:43:20 ---
Have you changed OffscreenRenderingMode ?

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--- Comment #26 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 12:48:46 ---
nope. i use the default.

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--- Comment #27 from Jean Michel   2007-11-24 13:25:28 ---
okay, tried now to change offscreen render thingy. doesn't change anything. As
i said, i don't think that this problem is directx related.

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--- Comment #28 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-24 14:23:27 ---
I am running out of ideas now. I know very little outside of the directx code,
and I doubt as well that directx causes this problem. I also doubt that your
512 mb of memory are the trouble here. If it was a memory issue then you'd have
the harddrive spinning all the time.

One last thing, can you check with process monitors if there is any other
process that consumes CPU time?

If you suspect that it is caused by your dual core CPU, you can disable one CPU
in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online . This way you can stop the scheduler
from using the CPU.

How the file is read depends on the game. If it is clever, then it will just
mmap the file and the job is entirely handled by the kernel - Unless this
problem here is hit: http://wiki.winehq.org/UnalignedMmap . But in this case,
GW wouldn't run with my 2GB of ram either.

Are any of your drives mounted from a network share(Samba or nfs?). Possibly
your home directory or /tmp ?

Regarding the categories:
http://bugs.winehq.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity
In case of games one might argue that 3fps is a big loss of functionality, but
all cases where games start up but have very bad performance are rated minor
because otherwise we'd run out of categories. A game that doesn't start up at
all doesn't qualify as major(loss of functionality across wide range of apps),
so it is normal. However, starting up but having terrible performance is still
better than not starting at all

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--- Comment #29 from Jean Michel   2007-11-25 06:14:47 ---
Hello,

as i don't have a dualcore cpu, i can't test that.

Is it possible to move this bug to another component? And what would be this
Heap? Memory or File handling related? i wonder if other apps aren't
affected...

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--- Comment #30 from Stefan Dösinger   2007-11-25 06:21:05 ---
I have set the component to wine-misc, as we don't know what causes the
problem. The heap functions are memory related. HeapAlloc is more or less the
Win32 equivalent of malloc(), HeapFree is free(), and so on. This FindSubHeap
function is an internal function of the heap management.

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--- Comment #31 from Jean Michel   2007-11-25 07:37:12 ---
any oher informations i could provide to help on this?

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--- Comment #32 from Michael Boone   2007-12-17 01:26:32 ---
I would like to look into enabling/disabling the use of FBO's and off screen
rendering options but cannot find information on registry keys to change, i'm
also getting this problem and do not remember it on a single core processor,
although it's probably not due to the processor.

I used to have the same problem in cedega and disabling FBO's made it run
smooth as ice.

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--- Comment #33 from Simon Boulet   2008-01-02 14:24:01 ---
I have experencied a simillar problem.

After that, i found that wine was configurated for emulate Windows XP. I
changed it for Windows 98 and it correct a big part of the problem.

This probably don't solve the problem, but it can help a lot of people getting
better speed.

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--- Comment #34 from Andreas Ringlstetter   2008-01-22 02:43:40 ---
(In reply to comment #33)
> I have experencied a simillar problem.
>
> After that, i found that wine was configurated for emulate Windows XP. I
> changed it for Windows 98 and it correct a big part of the problem.
>
> This probably don't solve the problem, but it can help a lot of people getting
> better speed.

Changing to Win98 brings bether speed, but on cost of using shaders and
particleemitters.

I have the same performance-problem since GW:EN, on an AMD 5000+ X2 with 2GB
RAM and a GF7950GTX the game reaches up to 10 fps, befor the update i was about
60 fps.

Swap ist empty, and GW takes up to 1,5 GB of RAM, but the load on CPU and
audio-chip is extremly high

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--- Comment #35 from John Rosenquist   2008-05-13 22:17:43 ---
I'm using gentoo and I had this problem when I first installed and decided to
experiment to see if I could get rid of it.

When I re-compiled my system without ipv6 support it stopped giving me the 3
frames a second thing and is now smooth. Now the framerate looks normal.
(Note, I didn't delete the .wine dir. I'm going to try that to get rid of some
of the other issues.)

wine 1.0rc1 with the following flags:
X alsa cups esd gecko jack jpeg lcms ncurses opengl oss

xorg-server 1.3.0.0-r5 with the following flags:
dri input_devices_evdev input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse nptl sdl
video_cards_nvidia xorg

kernel 2.6.22-gentoo-r9
Using Alsa for sound.

AMD 3800X2
3GB Memory
GeForce 6200 LE

Command line:
wine Gw.exe -dsound

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--- Comment #36 from Thomas Waldecker   2008-06-17 07:55:30 ---
I'm experiencing the same problem, Guild Wars is terribly slow.

Using a Debian Sid, Kernel 2.6.24-1-686
On a Dual Core, and Gforce 7600.

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--- Comment #37 from [e-mail]  2008-06-25 03:24:04 ---
OK, I also would like to help out with this bug.
I have a Q9450 4 GB RAM and 8800GT. And Guildwars only runs @15-20 FPS on
average.
Which is just a bit too slow to make it playable. I can get the framerate
higher when I disable dx9, but that makes GW a lot less attractive.
But I thought this was normal, but it seems to be a real problem. If I can help
out in any way, please do tell me what I can do.

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--- Comment #38 from Jean Michel   2008-06-25 03:44:18 ---
well, i have still the same problems on my old box. With my new box it's
running a bit faster but still slow:

Acer Aspire 5520G
2048 MB Ram
Nvidia GeForce 8600M GS with 512 MB Ram
2 GHz Dualcore
recent 2.6 kernel with ondemand governor.i tried performance, too.

i still think, that this problem is related to the big file where gw stores
it's game data in.

I can't help on this, tried profiling, tried tuning.. i tried now everything ;)

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--- Comment #39 from Matze Sternler   2008-06-25 10:16:43 ---
I have found out, that if i use the automatic-button in the options/graphics
windows the game works a lot faster as if i lower the datailsettings manually.
Can someone confirm this? After this gw is still slow but very playable.

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--- Comment #40 from Thomas Waldecker   2008-06-25 16:31:00 ---
Cant confirm this.
Itried and I updated to wine 1.0.0 and nothing changed.

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--- Comment #40 from Thomas Waldecker   2008-06-25 16:31:00 ---
Cant confirm this.
Itried and I updated to wine 1.0.0 and nothing changed.

--- Comment #41 from Austin English   2008-06-26 10:38:09 ---
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> Cant confirm this.
> Itried and I updated to wine 1.0.0 and nothing changed.

Did you try in a clean ~/.wine?

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--- Comment #42 from Ed Gray   2008-06-26 13:02:29 ---
Hi, my Guild Wars installation runs perfectly on Fedora 8 - AMD Athlon 64 X2
3800+ (2.0GHz stock speed). I must admit I've only tested with 1.5GB of DDR2.

The game runs like on windows, the only problem I found was switching between
normal and window modes - since I posted my test of Guild Wars I've found that
window mode works it just does not switch properly at all if you try to go from
fullscreen.
So I can definitely confirm that the game runs at a very good speed for me. I
have an Nvidia 7100GS 128MB PCI-Express card.

If you can find a way to reproduce the bug on any hardware I'm happy to test. I
wouldn't be suprised if there was an issue with ATi cards, I suspect this issue
does not apply to Fedora and may be distro related or kernel related. I
personally found problems when not using official drivers installed direct from
Nvidia as they intended - repackaged versions can cause slow issues or problems
with opengl. I've not tested the FPS but it all runs fine apart from the issues
I submitted to appdb./

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--- Comment #43 from Jon Leachman   2008-06-29 17:36:02 ---
(In reply to comment #39)
> I have found out, that if i use the automatic-button in the options/graphics
> windows the game works a lot faster as if i lower the datailsettings manually.
> Can someone confirm this? After this gw is still slow but very playable.

Same here; I see about a 50% or so improvement after clicking the Auto button
on the graphics tab, even if all of the GUI controls appear the same.

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--- Comment #44 from Jon Leachman   2008-06-29 18:30:42 ---
I had the same super-slow framerate problem in Ubuntu 8.04, wine 1.0 & 1.1, but
finally found a way to boost performance to a playable level:
* Switch to wine 0.9.61
* Uncheck "Allow pixel shader" in winecfg Graphics tab
* XP win version appears to work best, 98 is passable
* Start GW:
WINEDEBUG=-all wine Gw.exe
(the WINEDEBUG thing is to prevent wine from spewing loads of debug messages
that, at least for me, interfered with GW rendering)
* Before logging in to ArenaNet, hit the Auto button at the bottom of the
Graphics tab in the Options window
* Whenever the frame rate drops (happens to me occasionally) just hit that Auto
button again...

I was originally getting less than 1 fps, but I get around 7-10 fps with this
method.  I have crappy onboard Intel G31 graphics, so maybe ~10 fps is about
the best I can do.
I should add that wine 1.0 & 1.1 segfault after I hit the GW "Play" button on
the initial screen if "Allow pixel shader" is unchecked, which is why I had to
revert to 0.9.61.  Incidentally, should I submit a bug report about this, since
it appears to be specific to >= v1.0?

Hope this is helpful to someone.

My setup:
Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy
Asus P5KPL-CM (Intel G31 chipset)
onboard graphics
2048 MB DDR2 mem
Intel Q6600 cpu (quad-core 2.4 GHz)

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--- Comment #44 from Jon Leachman   2008-06-29 18:30:42 ---
I had the same super-slow framerate problem in Ubuntu 8.04, wine 1.0 & 1.1, but
finally found a way to boost performance to a playable level:
* Switch to wine 0.9.61
* Uncheck "Allow pixel shader" in winecfg Graphics tab
* XP win version appears to work best, 98 is passable
* Start GW:
WINEDEBUG=-all wine Gw.exe
(the WINEDEBUG thing is to prevent wine from spewing loads of debug messages
that, at least for me, interfered with GW rendering)
* Before logging in to ArenaNet, hit the Auto button at the bottom of the
Graphics tab in the Options window
* Whenever the frame rate drops (happens to me occasionally) just hit that Auto
button again...

I was originally getting less than 1 fps, but I get around 7-10 fps with this
method.  I have crappy onboard Intel G31 graphics, so maybe ~10 fps is about
the best I can do.
I should add that wine 1.0 & 1.1 segfault after I hit the GW "Play" button on
the initial screen if "Allow pixel shader" is unchecked, which is why I had to
revert to 0.9.61.  Incidentally, should I submit a bug report about this, since
it appears to be specific to >= v1.0?

Hope this is helpful to someone.

My setup:
Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy
Asus P5KPL-CM (Intel G31 chipset)
onboard graphics
2048 MB DDR2 mem
Intel Q6600 cpu (quad-core 2.4 GHz)

--- Comment #45 from Jean Michel   2008-06-30 03:33:15 ---
IMHO ~10 FPS aren't playable. Because especially Guild Wars is a game where
everyone is looking at the graphic. And as there are not only PvE Players in
Guild Wars (There are many many PvP Players arround), those needs to be really
fast. Impossible if you have only 10 FPS. Thats like connecting with a ping
over 500.. Also if you compare this FPS number with the one you would have in
windows, you'll be a bit dissapointed.

but thats.. just my 2 cents.

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--- Comment #46 from Thomas Waldecker   2008-07-05 13:57:41 ---
hi,

I just upgraded my debian sid kernel to 2.5.25-2 and installed the new
nvidia-drivers, guild wars runs perfect now.

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--- Comment #47 from Austin English   2009-01-03 19:34:13 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.12 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #48 from Betrunken Affe   2009-03-21 10:16:00 ---
(In reply to comment #47)
> Is this still an issue in current (1.1.12 or newer) wine?

This is still a problem for myself however mine isn't a continuous slow down,
if I don't move, my fps goes to 25 or so, I have mananged to minimize the
amount of 1 FPS I get by changing the priority to very high so it supercedes
all other programs on the computer. This has increased my fps to 32 and lowest
I USUALLY get is 15.

I'm wondering if this isn't possibly related to the single core usage of GW in
wine. There could be numerous issues which are occurring and providing the net
result as users have been experiencing. I'm sure that if GW used both my cores,
I would have much better fps then I currently receive.

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--- Comment #49 from invaderzlad   2009-07-07 19:13:03 ---
I had the same low fps issue with Wine 1.0.1 and newer.
What I did to fix it up:
- Uncheck "Allow pixel shader" in winecfg Graphics tab
- In Terminal typed: WINEDEBUG=-all

All credits go to Mr. Jon Leachman in comment #44.
Good luck!

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--- Comment #50 from Fredrick Lockert   2009-07-23 16:59:47 ---
I experience these horrible lags during background downloads (Login Screen,
Outpost's, City's, etc).

The transfer itself doesn't effect the performance, but each time it writes
data to Gw.dat, it lags horribly (jumping from 65-72fps to 10-15fps).

Distro: Ubuntu 9.04

Wine: 1.1.26 (with modified ntdll)

Hardware:
AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition,
4096MB RAM,
GeForce 8800GT 512MB,
WD Raptor 65GB 10000RPM

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--- Comment #50 from Lockert Fredrick   2009-07-23 16:59:47 ---
I experience these horrible lags during background downloads (Login Screen,
Outpost's, City's, etc).

The transfer itself doesn't effect the performance, but each time it writes
data to Gw.dat, it lags horribly (jumping from 65-72fps to 10-15fps).

Distro: Ubuntu 9.04

Wine: 1.1.26 (with modified ntdll)

Hardware:
AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition,
4096MB RAM,
GeForce 8800GT 512MB,
WD Raptor 65GB 10000RPM

--- Comment #51 from Austin English   2010-04-29 18:26:20 ---
This is your friendly reminder  that there has been no bug activity for 6
months. Is this still an issue in current (1.1.43 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #52 from Christoffer A   2010-05-10 13:37:38 ---
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> This is your friendly reminder  that there has been no bug activity for 6
> months. Is this still an issue in current (1.1.43 or newer) wine?

As far as I can tell, no. I can run the game with all settings on high and get
about 10-30fps on a GeForce 7600gs depending on what I am doing. This was
previously not possible, so the bug seems to be fixed. This is on a pretty
fresh Wine install with no overrides or anything.

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--- Comment #53 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2010-05-10 22:24:59 ---
Reported fixed.

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--- Comment #54 from Alexandre Julliard   2010-05-21 14:38:29 ---
Closing bugs fixed in 1.2-rc1.