[Bug 9569] New: automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

Summary: automatically set up dosdevices on first run
           Product: Wine
           Version: 0.9.44.
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P2
         Component: wine-binary
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

it would be very useful for wine to automatically set up all of its dosdevices
during its first run (when the .wine directory gets created).

the user can manually do this today with the "autodetect" feature under the
"drives" tab in winecfg, but it would make a lot of sense to have it done
automatically (maybe on subsequent wine runs the devices list should be
automatically repopulated if there are changes like a new disk drive).

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #1 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-09-02 22:25:29 ---
That "Autodetect" feature is completely broken. What exactly is that you
missing?
Wine maps Z: to your root - which gives you full access to anything you have in
your system.

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-09-02 22:26:36 ---
Core part of Wine has nothing to do with it. Explorer is the closer place.

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #3 from Michael Gilbert   2007-09-02 22:33:43 ---
well, i would expect there to be a unique drive letter for each separate disk
partition mounted on the system.  for example my /home is a separate partition
than /, and i have a second hard disk as well.   i also have two dvd drives.  i
would expect each of them to get a different drive letter assigned
automatically without my intervention.

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #4 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-09-02 22:38:12 ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> well, i would expect there to be a unique drive letter for each separate disk
> partition mounted on the system.  for example my /home is a separate partition
> than /, and i have a second hard disk as well.   i also have two dvd drives.  i

You not on windows, that would be major hindrance for any Linux user so that
part would be [WONTFIX]
> would expect each of them to get a different drive letter assigned
> automatically without my intervention.

Works perfectly here. What distro? How did you installed Wine?

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #5 from Michael Gilbert   2007-09-02 22:45:55 ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> > well, i would expect there to be a unique drive letter for each separate disk
> > partition mounted on the system.  for example my /home is a separate partition
> > than /, and i have a second hard disk as well.   i also have two dvd drives.
>
> You not on windows, that would be major hindrance for any Linux user so that
> part would be [WONTFIX]

the problem is that windows applications on wine don't see the correct free
space unless a dosdevice is set up specifically for that partition.
> > would expect each of them to get a different drive letter assigned
> > automatically without my intervention.
>
> Works perfectly here. What distro? How did you installed Wine?

installed on debian using the deb here
http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html.  wine did automatically set
up dosdevices for c:=/home/user/.wine and z:=/, but did not set up dosdevices
for the dvd drives.

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #6 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-09-02 22:51:20 ---
Are you on 64-bit? If so, then you probably missing 32-bit HAL

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #7 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-09-02 22:53:39 ---
Make sure you have _data_ cd-rom/dvd-rom mounted, and run winecfg with this
command:

WINEDEBUG=+explorer winecfg

Attach output here (as file, do not paste).

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #8 from Michael Gilbert   2007-09-02 23:10:52 ---
Created an attachment (id=7939)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=7939)
debug

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #9 from Michael Gilbert   2007-09-02 23:20:10 ---
with a disk mounted, it looks like the one drive was detected twice, and
nothing with the other drive.  i ended up with a "d:" and a "d::" dosdevice. 
it seems like i should get the same dosdevices whether or not the disk was
mounted, and the d:: seems erroneous.

however, this is getting away from the original point of the report, and should
probably be filed as a separate bug.  the original point was that i think the
dosdevices should be automatically set up for all partitions.  e.g.
h:=/home/user, b:=/boot, g:=/mnt/disk2, a:=/mnt/floppy, etc.

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |WONTFIX

--- Comment #10 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-09-02 23:41:22 ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> with a disk mounted, it looks like the one drive was detected twice, and
> nothing with the other drive.  i ended up with a "d:" and a "d::" dosdevice. 
> it seems like i should get the same dosdevices whether or not the disk was
> mounted, and the d:: seems erroneous.

Don't assume something you do not know. This is 100% correct. d:: is the device
link, d: is the mount pont
> however, this is getting away from the original point of the report, and should
> probably be filed as a separate bug.  the original point was that i think the
> dosdevices should be automatically set up for all partitions.  e.g.
> h:=/home/user, b:=/boot, g:=/mnt/disk2, a:=/mnt/floppy, etc.

No that is not the way it should work.

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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             Status|RESOLVED                    |CLOSED

--- Comment #11 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-09-02 23:41:56 ---
Closing, invalid/wontfix.

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #12 from Vitaliy Margolen   2007-09-03 00:23:06 ---
BTW if you really think that this is the way Wine should do it, make and send
the patch to wine-patches. There you will have an opportunity for more people
to chime in on it.
However this proposition was discussed before and was rejected. Thus the
resolution of this bug.

Also just something for you to think about, how will you handle raid arrays?
LVMs? And don't forget the more important question, how will windows programs
handle that?

Also don't forget about that on windows you can have things like reparse
points, or partitions without drive letters assigned to them.

And that there are lots of ... outright broken software that wants to scan all
fixed drives (just in case) when you start them/install them.

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9569

--- Comment #13 from Michael Gilbert   2007-09-03 01:05:38 ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> However this proposition was discussed before and was rejected. Thus the
> resolution of this bug.

do you have a link to the discussion?  i will read up so i can understand the
decision.
> Also just something for you to think about, how will you handle raid arrays?
> LVMs? And don't forget the more important question, how will windows programs
> handle that?

if i remember right, raids can be mounted as one partition (linux), and
equivalently as one drive letter (windows).  never dealt with an lvm.
> Also don't forget about that on windows you can have things like reparse
> points, or partitions without drive letters assigned to them.

didn't know that.  is it necessary to support something so obscure?

[Bug 9569] automatically set up dosdevices on first run

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Dan Kegel  changed:

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--- Comment #14 from Dan Kegel   2007-09-04 02:55:14 ---
Michael, it *does* already do what you want
if HAL is working.