[Bug 12724] New: 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

Summary: 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program
           Product: Wine
           Version: 0.9.59.
          Platform: PC
               URL: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112
                    &id=5659302
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=12376)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12376)
Output from terminal (I broke it down to show what I saw, when I saw it
happen).

After using ProcessExplorer to figure out what it used, I used a few DLL
overrides and got the program to load it's window. After that, it locks up and
simply can't load the 3D panels in the program for some reason. I've tried all
I know so I figure it would be a good idea to tell about the bug on here (I
also submitted my test data recently, and at this current moment is yet to be
accepted).

My WINE version is 0.9.59

This is the list of DLL overrides I had to use. You will likely have to tweak
them to try getting DirectX rendering to work.

avifil32 (native)
comctl32 (native)
comdlg32 (native)
dcap32 (native)
dciman32 (native)
ddrawex (native)
imagehlp (native)
kernel32 (native)
lz32 (native)
msacm32 (native)
msvfw32 (native)
msxml3 (native)
ole32 (native)
oleacc (native)
oleaut32 (native)
oledlg (native)
opengl32 (native, built-in)
regapi (native)
riched20 (native)
riched32 (native)
shdocvw (native)
shell32 (native)
shfolder (native)
shlwapi (native)

You can remove the opengl32 override from the list if you want to try DirectX
rendering. I also observed that unlike trying it in OpenGL mode, the only time
that the window loads properly under DirectX rendering mode is after first
selecting that mode, but trying to run the program again, it renders garbage
for the window.

There may be some dll's in there that are unecessary, but I grabbed the ones
that processexplorer said 3D Studio MAX was using during the time, and a few
that I thought might also be necessary for the DLL's listed to work properly.
Also, Software rendering failed, too. :(

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #1 from Justin Soulia   2008-04-21 17:40:42 ---
"When not using it in native mode, you don't even get that much of a statement"

I said that in the text file I attached. I mean't built-in, not native.

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #2 from Justin Soulia   2008-04-21 18:28:43 ---
*Sigh* I'm not sure where you'd look to get this program on the internet
(unless you check torrent sites and only use it as a trial). I just thought
about that issue.

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #3 from Austin English   2008-04-21 22:15:28 ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> *Sigh* I'm not sure where you'd look to get this program on the internet
> (unless you check torrent sites and only use it as a trial). I just thought
> about that issue.

The site offers a 30 day free trial..Have you tested that?

Also, try without native dlls. If they must be used, file bugs (check for dupes
first) for the reason you're using them.

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #4 from Justin Soulia   2008-04-22 05:39:14 ---
Created an attachment (id=12386)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12386)
Output without native DLL's

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #5 from Justin Soulia   2008-04-22 05:42:08 ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> The site offers a 30 day free trial..Have you tested that?
>
> Also, try without native dlls. If they must be used, file bugs (check for dupes
> first) for the reason you're using them.

I already have the program, I mentioned that for people who didn't.

As you'll notice without the native DLL's, the program will try loading the
plugins, then lock up on the cmbtex.dlt plugin file, resulting in that final
error.

I'll try running ProcessExplorer again to see if it can tell me what's 
happening during that moment.

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #6 from Austin English   2008-04-22 11:39:42 ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #3)
> > The site offers a 30 day free trial..Have you tested that?
> >
> > Also, try without native dlls. If they must be used, file bugs (check for dupes
> > first) for the reason you're using them.
>
> I already have the program, I mentioned that for people who didn't.

The demo doesn't always have the same problem. It is useful for you to test it
to see if it has the same problem so other's don't have to spend time to check
for bugs that may not exist there.
> As you'll notice without the native DLL's, the program will try loading the
> plugins, then lock up on the cmbtex.dlt plugin file, resulting in that final
> error.

That's fine, but you should file bugs for those. For all we know, with that
many native DLLs, the bug you're currently filing may be because of those DLLs
mixed with some wine DLLs...

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #7 from Justin Soulia   2008-04-22 14:51:52 ---
Created an attachment (id=12396)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12396)
Working.....mostly.

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #8 from Justin Soulia   2008-04-22 14:55:22 ---
Okay, I understand that. I'll see about testing the demo first if I can still
get it off their site.

Also, I removed the plugin file that the program locks up on when it starts
each time, and it initiated regardless. The program works without it, but all
the objects are rendered without light effects or texture effects, which is
what I think that cmbtex.dlt does (it's....I think...the combustion engine
plugin). It worked without native DLL's, however.

I'll refrain from commenting on this until I've accomplished what need be
first.

[Bug 12724] 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #9 from Justin Soulia   2008-09-23 19:49:04 ---
I know it's been a very long time since I last mentioned anything on the status
of this bug. Unfortunately I didn't have access to my machine all summer, but I
finally got to test it again.

3DS Max 7 under Wine-1.1.5 will load properly with the new instructions I
placed in the app's HOWTO. It still involves moving the Combustion plugin files
out of the stdplugs folder, but it doesn't seem to actually have any part in
the dynamic lighting or coloring of geometry.

Under Software Rendering everything I tested and toyed with seemed to work
fine, but I also tried toying with 3D Hardware rendering using DirectX. Both
9.0 and 8.1 modes work, but 9.0 mode renders all the objects in the Perspective
viewport as black. Under 8.1 however, objects render and are colored properly.
However, if you try to toy with any of the tools that adjust your point of view
in the Perspective viewport, the program crashes. I found that following one of
the several tutorials around the internet to install the native DirectX 9.0c
solved this problem.

My machine doesn't have a DX9 compatible video card (an old nVidia GeForce 4000
MX), and uses the legacy accelerated video card drivers. Can someone try
running the program with the HOWTO instructions for the app, that actually has
a computer running a DX9 compatible card with the newer drivers? This would
help make sure that the lockups with Wine's built-in DirectX aren't tied into
my legacy video card drivers.

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

Justin Soulia  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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          Component|-unknown                    |directx-d3d
            Summary|3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot    |3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render
                   |render 3D windows in program|viewport windows and
                   |                            |geometry properly

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #10 from Justin Soulia   2008-09-26 11:15:19 ---
I changed the name of the bug so it makes a little more sense as to what the
bug is about.

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

Justin Soulia  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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                URL|http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk%7Chttp://files.filefront.com/3
                   |/servlet/index?siteID=123112|dsmax7exe/;10541739;/fileinf
                   |&id=5659302                 |o.html

--- Comment #11 from Justin Soulia   2008-10-23 19:37:38 ---
I've updated the URL for this (and for the other 3DS Max 7 bugs). The program
(the download is trial) can be downloaded there.

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #12 from Justin Soulia   2008-10-27 16:42:54 ---
Wine-1.1.7, viewport windows load correctly and geometry renders properly under
DirectX 8.1 mode without crashing. Still, geometry appears as black shapes in
DirectX 9.0 mode.

Anyone have any better luck in DX9 mode?

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #13 from Austin English   2009-04-26 20:46:17 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.20 or newer) wine?

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

--- Comment #14 from Justin Soulia   2009-10-04 22:29:12 ---
As of Wine 1.1.30, geometry renders properly in all viewports and correctly
colored/shaded in DirectX 8.1 and OpenGL modes. Shapes are still rendered
completely black in DirectX 9 mode, however.

This is using the latest NVIDIA graphics drivers with my laptop, which has a
GeForce 6100 Go chipset; enough to utilize DX9.

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly in Directx 9 mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

Austin English  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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           Keywords|                            |download
                URL|http://files.filefront.com/ |http://www.skan.ru/en/file/
                   |3dsmax7exe/;10541739;/filei |3dsmax7.exe
                   |nfo.html                    |
            Summary|3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render  |3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render
                   |viewport windows and        |viewport windows and
                   |geometry properly           |geometry properly in
                   |                            |Directx 9 mode

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly in Directx 9 mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724

Justin Soulia  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED

--- Comment #15 from Justin Soulia  2011-05-01 22:03:16 CDT ---
This is no longer an issue with wine 1.3.19.

[Bug 12724] 3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render viewport windows and geometry properly in Directx 9 mode

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Alexandre Julliard  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |CLOSED

--- Comment #16 from Alexandre Julliard  2011-05-13 13:33:15 CDT ---
Closing bugs fixed in 1.3.20.