[Bug 26356] New: Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Summary: Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.3.15
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: major
          Priority: P2
         Component: winex11.drv
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

After installing wine 1.3.15 and running F.E.A.R. (from steam) Mouse ingame
(the menu is fine) is not responsive enough and doesn't pick up fast movements
at all.

Related console output is:
fixme:d3d:state_zfunc D3DCMP_NOTEQUAL and D3DCMP_EQUAL do not work correctly
yet.

I suspect one of Alexandre's commits
 winex11: Synchronize the mouse cursor in update_mouse_state.
 winex11: Update the window cursor at most once every 100ms if nothing changed.

is the culprit. I'll do a regression testing later to find out exactly the
offending commit.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Dmitry Timoshkov  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|winex11.drv                 |-unknown
           Severity|major                       |normal

--- Comment #1 from Dmitry Timoshkov  2011-03-09 00:23:46 CST ---
Please retest with latest git, the problem might be fixed already.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #2 from Nicky  2011-03-09 03:23:27 CST ---
Okay, I'll post the results in the evening, since it'd take several years to
build a multilib wine on eeepc...

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Martijn Vandecasteele  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |NEW
     Ever Confirmed|0                           |1

--- Comment #3 from Martijn Vandecasteele  2011-03-09 03:53:17 CST ---
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #4 from Nicky  2011-03-09 08:40:21 CST ---
Not fixed in current git. Just tested. Same problem,(almost) same console
output.

fixme:cursor:GetCursorFrameInfo semi-stub! 0x700a2 => 0 0 0x33f888 0x33f884
fixme:cursor:GetCursorFrameInfo semi-stub! 0x700a2 => 0 0 0x33f888 0x33f884
fixme:d3d:state_zfunc D3DCMP_NOTEQUAL and D3DCMP_EQUAL do not work correctly
yet.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #5 from Nicky  2011-03-10 03:35:43 CST ---
02e8174067216e085e2f6a0d1dbbfabad74491b3 is the first bad commit
commit 02e8174067216e085e2f6a0d1dbbfabad74491b3
Author: Alexandre Julliard 
Date:   Fri Feb 25 11:31:47 2011 +0100

server: Store the cursor clip rectangle in the server.

:040000 040000 f91a82445fedf712b6721e815ec11c744d97f479
8d2959526e574c0580af9c06bb1aaa89048a1df4 M    dlls
:040000 040000 0a258a2712053d1d30b2c2e4094a6f1b489ceec1
622d465a92c3f0f039f0f6d813112d75996ab8cc M    include
:040000 040000 a66d65df831cbc2cdab22f377fa769120a8805ec
1b8f6841a58983507923772a559dea2fe507d4b2 M    server

Regression testing done, please CC the author of the patch to the bug.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Dmitry Timoshkov  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Keywords|                            |regression

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Ralph Little  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #6 from Ralph Little  2011-03-12 11:04:25 CST ---
I can confirm Nicky's regression test.

Same issue with Tomb Raider: Underworld fixed by winding back.
Mouse is very unresponsive to the point of being unusable in the menu. Nothing
else seems affected however. Same behaviour in-game.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

GyB  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #7 from GyB  2011-03-12 11:10:14 CST ---
This one and bug #26318 seem to be about the same problem (according to the
result of both regression tests).

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #8 from Nicky  2011-03-12 12:40:53 CST ---
What's the normal procedure from here on? Should we notify the developer or
something?

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Austin English  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Javier Kohen  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]
                   |                            |t

--- Comment #9 from Javier Kohen  2011-03-19 03:40:16 CDT ---
Still happens on version 1.3.16. I've confirmed it with Oblivion.

Unfortunately at 1.3.16 HEAD the patch is hard to revert (I managed something,
but just didn't work well afterwards). We should probably wait until a proper
fix is released based on the new code. Unless somebody is willing to devote
more time to reverse the patch than I do.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #10 from Nicky  2011-03-19 05:31:46 CDT ---
Please, everyone, submit a bug link to each affected application, so that
people trying to get those to run know what the problem is and use the older
version of wine (1.3.14)

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Felipe  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #11 from Felipe  2011-03-21 16:07:56 CDT ---
This bug happens on Half Life (all mods)

Only happens in 1.3.15 and 1.3.16. 1.3.14 works fine.

thanks

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #12 from Nicky  2011-03-22 10:57:58 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> This bug happens on Half Life (all mods)
>
> Only happens in 1.3.15 and 1.3.16. 1.3.14 works fine.
>
> thanks

Please add the bug to whichever application you found not to work, that would
help us as the developers are going to see that it affects a lot of application
and also narrow down why it appears in some games and why it doesn't in other.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Jan Kalab  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Jason  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #13 from Jason  2011-03-23 14:16:44 CDT ---
Seems to affect Starsiege: Tribes as well, when looking towards particularly
complex shapes (such as towns in the Tribes RPG modification).

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #14 from Ralph Little  2011-03-23 14:24:18 CDT ---
> Seems to affect Starsiege: Tribes as well, when looking towards particularly
> complex shapes (such as towns in the Tribes RPG modification).

It's more likely in this case to be a performance issue.
Does winding back to 1.3.14 fix the problem?

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #15 from Jason  2011-03-23 15:06:57 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> It's more likely in this case to be a performance issue.
> Does winding back to 1.3.14 fix the problem?

I honestly have no idea how to downgrade, I looked it up and found little to no
information, except a forum post where a guy asked, and then said he figured it
out (without giving the method, as is typical).

However, I do know that this is a new issue, as I've been running the game
through wine for over a year. It started quite recently; when I upgraded to
wine 1.3.15.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #16 from Ralph Little  2011-03-23 15:23:29 CDT ---
> I honestly have no idea how to downgrade, I looked it up and found little to no
> information, except a forum post where a guy asked, and then said he figured it
> out (without giving the method, as is typical).

Perhaps we can help :D

How are you installing it? Are you building it yourself or are you using a
package of some kind? I currently compile from source in a cloned git
repository so I can move forward and backward along the revision branch. If you
are using packages, then you can select a specific package version using the
installation tools.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #17 from Javier Kohen  2011-03-23 15:25:26 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #16)
> > I honestly have no idea how to downgrade, I looked it up and found little to no
> > information, except a forum post where a guy asked, and then said he figured it
> > out (without giving the method, as is typical).
>
> Perhaps we can help :D

It's nice that you want to help, but please keep it in the forums/mailing list,
not on Bugzilla. Or just write him/her an e-mail address, all our addresses are
visible to logged in users anyway.

Thanks.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

MikaN  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #18 from MikaN  2011-03-24 06:14:26 CDT ---
I honestly don't know if this is the *exact* same issue I've been experiencing
after updating from wine 1.3.12 to wine 1.3.16... but seems a likely reason.

In Dark Age of Camelot, the mouse movement in game is lagging real bad. To a
point that it's not usable... at all. In 1.3.12 it's fine. I'm suspecting it's
a performance issue (based on what I see in system monitor, one of the cores
hitting 100% when moving mouse).

I'm using Mac OSX Snow Leopard, it has a nVidia GeForce 8600M GT if I recall
right, Intel processor. Using XQuartz as a backend. Wine is installed via
macports (it essentially compiles the application from sources much like gentoo
does).

I saw similar reports from one other guy, who is using Ubuntu 10.10 and
upgraded wine as well.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #19 from Javier Kohen  2011-03-24 06:30:35 CDT ---
If you're not certain that it's the same bug, here's what you can do:
1. Do regression testing. See http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting
2. Figure out if it's caused by the same (or closely related) change.

If it's the same problem, then follow the advice elsewhere and add the game to
the list of affected apps (you might want to post here to confirm this, once
you're sure).

If it's a different problem, open a bug and provide the information you got
from the regression testing. CC the right component/author. Since you've
already done the regression testing, you'll be pretty much sure you won't be
ignored.

Otherwise please refrain from speculating on Bugzilla; long threads don't make
it easier for the developers and are usually annoying to all the people being
CC'd.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Justice M.  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #20 from Justice M.  2011-03-24 11:46:46 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #18)
> In Dark Age of Camelot, the mouse movement in game is lagging real bad. To a
> point that it's not usable... at all. In 1.3.12 it's fine.

I think that may have been me. I am not sure it is the same issue, though.

My problems started when I did an update of system files from ubuntu which did
not contain a new wine version. I commented on the DAOC page when it happened.

Furthermore, while my mouse was dragging, it preferred quick movements; it's as
though the mouse is only allowed to update position a fraction of the time, and
it continually snaps back to the last position updated. It moves, but with a
jerky elastic-leash appearance.

It's working for me at the moment, though I have no idea how it could be - I
did sudu apt-get remove wine and sudo apt-get remove wine 1.3 and suddenly wine
runs perfectly, even though I never got around to re-installing it. My linux-fu
isn't strong enough to look much further than that. plus, haven't restarted
yet.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Mads  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

[e-mail] changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #21 from Mads  2011-03-31 04:16:06 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> This bug happens on Half Life (all mods)
>
> Only happens in 1.3.15 and 1.3.16. 1.3.14 works fine.
>
> thanks

Can confirm this myself, tested with 1.3.15. 1.3.14 works.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

cientista99  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #22 from cientista99  2011-04-02 16:49:14 CDT ---
I tested the Half-Life mod Counter-Strike 1.6 with wine 1.3.17 and the bug is
still present.

I downgrade to 1.3.14 and the bug is not present so the bug still in 1.3.17.

Thanks

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Pilot  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Benjamin Debski  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Mikael Åkersund  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #23 from Mikael Åkersund  2011-04-08 14:43:50 CDT ---
I tried the latest GIT (wine-1.3.17-173-g6eed4c4) and the mouse appears to be
working really well again in Oblivion at least. I tried Counter-strike: Source
as well and that also worked well. Not sure if the Source engine was affected
or not before.

Could someone else test the other games/apps affected?

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Christopher Krakowiak  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |krzysztof.krakowiak@gmail.c
                   |                            |om

--- Comment #24 from Christopher Krakowiak  2011-04-10 07:14:23 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #23)
> I tried the latest GIT (wine-1.3.17-173-g6eed4c4) and the mouse appears to be
> working really well again in Oblivion at least. I tried Counter-strike: Source
> as well and that also worked well. Not sure if the Source engine was affected
> or not before.
>
> Could someone else test the other games/apps affected?

With yesterday snapshot its still broken for cs16

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Roman Beslik  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

[e-mail] changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #25 from [e-mail] 2011-04-15 14:03:02 CDT ---
This looks like this is related to 26314, same regression test info too.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26314

in Champions Online, the mouse moves fine, until i hold down a button, and the
mouse goes invisible.... as soon as there is mouse movement when the cursor
goes invisible, its very laggy and jumpy around.  In places where i can click
and drag to do the same thing (character creation) where the mouse cursor does
not disappear, there is no lag...

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #26 from Javier Kohen  2011-04-16 03:16:39 CDT ---
As far as Oblivion is concerned, 1.3.18 fixes this problem.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #27 from Nicky  2011-04-16 06:38:21 CDT ---
Bug still present in F.E.A.R. in 1.3.18 (just retested)

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #28 from Jason  2011-04-16 12:41:14 CDT ---
I'm actually not able to reproduce this any more in Starsiege: Tribes with
1.3.17 (still waiting on the 1.3.18 update). I guess the link to that game
should be removed since at this point it's starting to seem like it was
unrelated.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Olivier Diotte  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #29 from Olivier Diotte  2011-04-16 15:35:43 CDT ---
This bug still affects Counter-Strike 1.6 as of 1.3.18.

I mean no offense, but, out of curiosity, why hasn't the patch causing this
been reverted since it is known to cause bugs? Are there current benefits which
counterbalance this bug?

Regards,
Olivier

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #30 from Nicky  2011-04-16 19:55:24 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #29)
> This bug still affects Counter-Strike 1.6 as of 1.3.18.
>
> I mean no offense, but, out of curiosity, why hasn't the patch causing this
> been reverted since it is known to cause bugs? Are there current benefits which
> counterbalance this bug?
>
> Regards,
> Olivier

By what I can tell it's part of the ongoing xinput 2 implementation to fix bug
6971 . An official response by a developer would be nice...

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Anton  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Matej Spindler  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #31 from Matej Spindler  2011-04-21 13:20:11 CDT ---
Updates in git today ( 21.April.2011 ) fixed mouse lag in Tomb Raider:
Underworld !

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #32 from Ralph Little  2011-04-21 16:01:51 CDT ---
I can also confirm that Tomb Raider Underworld now works.

Mouse pointer is very smooth. Many thanks to whoever fixed it.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Stefan Dösinger  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #33 from Stefan Dösinger  2011-04-26 15:17:12 CDT ---
Half Life: Source and Half Life Deathmatch: Source (from Steam,the old HL games
with the HL2 engine) are also broken by this patch. The original Half Life(also
from Steam) works fine for me.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #34 from Javier Kohen  2011-04-26 15:18:24 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #33)
> Half Life: Source and Half Life Deathmatch: Source (from Steam,the old HL games
> with the HL2 engine) are also broken by this patch. The original Half Life(also
> from Steam) works fine for me.

Try Wine 1.3.18 and git HEAD. Thanks.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #35 from Stefan Dösinger  2011-04-26 15:32:25 CDT ---
1.3.18 doesn't work, this is the version where I first noticed the breakage(I
rarely play this game). I am compiling HEAD right now. I started the bisect
before today's commit wave. Yesterday's git code didn't have a working mouse,
but Alexandre committed a few mouse fixes today.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #36 from Stefan Dösinger  2011-04-26 16:18:49 CDT ---
Yep, today's git fixes the issue. I guess I should have waited one more day
before doing all the bisecting

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

--- Comment #37 from Ken Sharp  2011-04-26 16:50:17 CDT ---
So this bug is fixed?

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Stefan Dösinger  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED

--- Comment #38 from Stefan Dösinger  2011-04-26 17:06:01 CDT ---
I'd say so.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Alexandre Julliard  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |CLOSED

--- Comment #39 from Alexandre Julliard  2011-04-29 13:14:57 CDT ---
Closing bugs fixed in 1.3.19.

[Bug 26356] Mouse "lags" and doesn't pick up quick movements.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26356

Preston  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]

--- Comment #40 from Preston  2012-10-19 11:50:00 CDT ---
Bug reappears in 1.4.1 on my Mac. Any new info or idea of the cause of this
problem?