[Bug 26292] New: OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505). There's a leak in the ARB_Vertex_Buffer_Object

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26292

Summary: OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505). There's a leak in the
                    ARB_Vertex_Buffer_Object
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.3.14
          Platform: x86-64
        OS/Version: Mac OS X 10.6
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P2
         Component: opengl
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=33520)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=33520)
My last run winelog for the beefy details

Basically it looks like Wine is trying to create a buffer on an already mapped
VBO...Which means. The real problem seems to me that the memory handling is the
problem. Wine can't clean the buffer properly and when it tries to create a new
buffer it fails thus being forced to use the mapped vbo which gradually fills
up then leaks.
It is not pretty.

The bug is occurring in "Oblivion GOTY".
And I have tested x amount of different settings though please come up with new
ones (i.e. not those already mentioned in the oblivion/fallout etc. threads.)
I do believe though that this can be fixed by implementing the same fix as
cedega does by limiting the GL Extension buffer to
"-GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object". I know this works in cedega and cider. And I
know Wine and cedega doesn't exchange code (if they did I would have solved it
already). The thing is cedega is on to something with the GL extension and I
have no idea how to make it fixed in Wine. 
Adding a disabledextensions in OpenGL key in Wine registry does not work; the
same error shows up.

I am using a mid 2009 MBP 15". My GFX GeForce 9600M GT 512 and my CPU 2.8GHz
with 4GB DDR3 Ram. I run the latest OSX. My wine is doh123s compiled Wineskin
Wrapper and I am running OBSE in Oblivion however it does not matter wether I
run with it or without.
The game crashes once the leak is to heavy. Furthermore it is easily recreated
by running a lot of mods and high graphics along with running around in a dense
polygon area or somewhere with a lot of stuff that needs rendering, thus the
buffer is filled quickly. 
Believe it or not the crash seems to occur at a slower rate when running in
debug mode and it is also possible to purge the cell buffers in game so that
the in-game time may be extended even further before a critical leak occurs.

I would love to fix this. I believe it is rather easy to fix. Just a needed
injection in the registry should be all.

Any thoughts?

PS: I have added my error log for a bit more meat on the bones.

[Bug 26292] OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505). There's a leak in the ARB_Vertex_Buffer_Object

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26292

--- Comment #1 from Henri Verbeet  2011-03-03 13:10:19 CST ---
What makes you think this is a resource leak in Wine, instead of the usual OS X
address space exhaustion?

[Bug 26292] OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505). There's a leak in the ARB_Vertex_Buffer_Object

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26292

--- Comment #2 from iAmbrosius  2011-03-03 13:34:47 CST ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> What makes you think this is a resource leak in Wine, instead of the usual OS X
> address space exhaustion?

Huh... That might be true! I didn't think about that... But why would it be the
OS X address space exhaustion? I mean I am not able to recreate the crash at
all using a cider wrapper. The cedega in Cider manages to keep the address
space trimmed or so to say it manages to clean the vbo properly..

[Bug 26292] OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505). There's a leak in the ARB_Vertex_Buffer_Object

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--- Comment #3 from Juan Lang  2011-03-03 13:36:48 CST ---
Not critical:
http://bugs.winehq.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity

[Bug 26292] OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505). There's a leak in the ARB_Vertex_Buffer_Object

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26292

--- Comment #4 from iAmbrosius  2011-03-03 21:54:02 CST ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Not critical:
> http://bugs.winehq.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity

Oh sorry. I will be more observant next time!

[Bug 26292] Oblivion GOTY: OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505)

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Dmitry Timoshkov  changed:

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[Bug 26292] Oblivion GOTY: OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505)

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--- Comment #5 from Ilya Kuryanov  2011-11-13 15:40:09 CST ---
Created attachment 37487
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=37487
A sample log of wine running TES V: Skyrim with texture detail set to 'high'

Exactly the same bug is present in Skyrim. If you set texture detail to 'high',
you will hardly be able to start the game — it will freeze with
OpenGL_Out_of_Memory in logs. If you set it to 'medium', you'll be able to
play, but the game will inevitably freeze sometime later with the same error.
Attached is an example of a log you get with high texture detail. I don't have
a copy of Cider, so I can't check if the bug is present there, and anyway, that
would be somewhat irrelevant.

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--- Comment #6 from Ahmed W.  2011-11-15 18:34:11 CST ---
I can confirm this bug with Skyrim as well.

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--- Comment #7 from Ahmed W.  2011-11-15 20:31:36 CST ---
Created attachment 37503
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=37503
Skyrim log on ultra high

This is on Arch Linux (64bit)
  -> wine-git --version                                                         
wine-1.3.32-205-g5c732d7
  -> uname -r
3.1.0-4-ARCH
  -> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/gpus/0/information 
Model:           GeForce GTX 285

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--- Comment #8 from TRiToNa-Ma  2011-11-16 06:53:00 CST ---
I also confirm this bug when running Skyrim. I found that on ultra high
shadow-settings all crashes before the start of the game (play, not menu), with
the lowest shadows all playable for 15-20 minutes, afterwards the same error
occur.

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--- Comment #9 from Ilya Kuryanov  2011-11-16 10:05:04 CST ---
I found that specifying the amount of memory your video card has
(videomemorysize=x, settable in Winetricks as well) , helps to increase the
time amount you can spend in-game before the game freezes or make it work on
higher settings. Please, try this out and say if it works for you too.

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--- Comment #10 from Bartosz  2011-11-26 03:30:51 CST ---
I confirm that setting shadows on ultra high in Skyrim causes crash when
loading saved game becase of GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY (0x505) error.

@Ilya Kuryanov
Setting memory size does not help.

Gentoo amd64
wine 1.3.32
NVIDIA GTX 560 with 1024MB of RAM

[Bug 26292] Oblivion GOTY: OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505)

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--- Comment #11 from Bartosz  2011-11-26 03:32:36 CST ---
Created attachment 37631
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=37631
wine output width ultra high shadows

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--- Comment #12 from Delporte  2011-11-26 11:23:41 CST ---
Not sure if this is helpful or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I also
get an immediate GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY (0x505) error when playing with all settings
on high--and can also confirm that setting shadows to anything other then 'low'
seems to be a main culprit. So while messing around on Google trying to find
out why the latest patch made the game significantly more unstable (another
issue entirely) I came across some posts mentioning that you can make the
TESV.exe LAA (Large Address Aware) so that It can address >2GB of memory.

If you don't have the latest patch you can use these instructions to make your
TESV.exe Large Address Aware -->
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=134&navtag=file/images....
.

If however you do have the latest patch and don't have a copy of the original
exe laying around you will need to go this route (I couldn't get it to work)-->
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013#content. This is because
the update made it so that steam can no longer be bypassed by running TESV.exe
directly and Steam also checks the integrity of TESV.exe. This method is
suppose to let Steam verify the EXE and THEN inject the LAA code. Again, I
couldn't get this method to work.

I ended up finding a copy of the original EXE and used the first method.

Anyway, my point? making the EXE Large Address Aware I was able to play for
more than 30 minutes with all settings at max and with no crashes, Out Of
Memory or otherwise (I quite because I had to go do some things so I'm not sure
how long it will last this way).

I'm not sure if this helps diagnose the problem in any way or if I'm just
masking the crash by throwing more memory at the game but just thought I'd
share.

BTW I'm running 64Bit Gentoo and I'm running the game from a 64Bit WINEPREFIX
and my rig has 16GB or ram.

If this is irrelevant info then let me know and if so, sorry for the wasted
space

[Bug 26292] Oblivion GOTY: OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505)

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26292

--- Comment #13 from Bartosz  2011-11-26 15:57:00 CST ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> Not sure if this is helpful or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I also
> get an immediate GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY (0x505) error when playing with all settings
> on high--and can also confirm that setting shadows to anything other then 'low'
> seems to be a main culprit. So while messing around on Google trying to find
> out why the latest patch made the game significantly more unstable (another
> issue entirely) I came across some posts mentioning that you can make the
> TESV.exe LAA (Large Address Aware) so that It can address >2GB of memory.
>
> If you don't have the latest patch you can use these instructions to make your
> TESV.exe Large Address Aware -->
> http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=134&navtag=file/images....
> .
>
> If however you do have the latest patch and don't have a copy of the original
> exe laying around you will need to go this route (I couldn't get it to work)-->
> http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013#content. This is because
> the update made it so that steam can no longer be bypassed by running TESV.exe
> directly and Steam also checks the integrity of TESV.exe. This method is
> suppose to let Steam verify the EXE and THEN inject the LAA code. Again, I
> couldn't get this method to work.
>
> I ended up finding a copy of the original EXE and used the first method.
>
> Anyway, my point? making the EXE Large Address Aware I was able to play for
> more than 30 minutes with all settings at max and with no crashes, Out Of
> Memory or otherwise (I quite because I had to go do some things so I'm not sure
> how long it will last this way).
>
> I'm not sure if this helps diagnose the problem in any way or if I'm just
> masking the crash by throwing more memory at the game but just thought I'd
> share.
>
> BTW I'm running 64Bit Gentoo and I'm running the game from a 64Bit WINEPREFIX
> and my rig has 16GB or ram.
>
> If this is irrelevant info then let me know and if so, sorry for the wasted
> space

This is very helpful
I used tutorial on this page:
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=134 and now I can use ultra
high shadows, game looks awesome and runs smoothler
I think that you solved that bug, thanks

[Bug 26292] Oblivion GOTY: OpenGL_Out_of_Memory (505)

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Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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--- Comment #14 from Vitaliy Margolen  2011-11-26 21:11:29 CST ---
Looks like invalid bug then, if users on Windows have the same issue.

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--- Comment #15 from Delporte  2011-11-26 22:17:19 CST ---
I was thinking this might be more of a workaround to the original problem since
Windows users don't technically *NEED* a Large Address Aware executable for the
game to at least load and run with all settings on High. My nephew is running
windows 7 ultimate and can run the game for some time without this hack and
with all settings at max before it crashes. Under wine, and without this hack,
the Out Of Memory problem presents immediately. I know there are crashes for
this game on Windows also but its hard to say if its the same issue. Maybe
someone who knows more about this sort of thing can shed some light?

As !Ambroisius has pointed out I also have had this issue with Oblivion and
Fallout 3 so it is entirely possible that this could be a Bethesda specific
game engine problem that is specific to wine. I'm not a programmer so I could
be completely off base here.

I will point out that before the Steam patch I could run the game for hours on
end as long as I had the Shaders set to 'Low' but after the Steam patch it
would freeze, lock up, not load areas, etc. at random times which is also what
Windows users experienced after the update. So is there any way to tell if all
this is related?

I only chime in in case this solution doesn't work for all people or stops
working with future patches to the game.

I guess time will tell if this is truly an INVALID bug or if there is an
underlying issue.

Unfortunately I'm not well versed in programming so have no real skills to test
any of this but thought I'd throw some thoughts out there.

Thanks

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--- Comment #16 from Austin English  2011-11-29 15:47:48 CST ---
Closing.