[Bug 34454] New: Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

Bug #: 34454
           Summary: Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate
                    fonts are present in the system
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.7.1
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: fonts
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
    Classification: Unclassified

This is a continuation of bug 34446.

I'd like to propose that Wine should never try to load or use builtin fonts
(which don't exactly look nice under certain fontconfig settings, like full
hinting) when native appropriate fonts are present in the system.

Thanks.

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

Dmitry Timoshkov  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Dmitry Timoshkov  2013-09-05 03:07:32 CDT ---
It's already implemented. Built-in fonts have lower font version than native
ones, so if native font exists it gets used instead of a built-in one.

Problem in the bug 34446 is completely unrelated. Moreover, Tahoma has never
been a part of the original Microsoft web fonts pack, so in order to use it
one needs a Windows license.

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

--- Comment #2 from Artem S. Tashkinov  2013-09-05 03:12:29 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> It's already implemented. Built-in fonts have lower font version than native
> ones, so if native font exists it gets used instead of a built-in one.
>
> Problem in the bug 34446 is completely unrelated. Moreover, Tahoma has never
> been a part of the original Microsoft web fonts pack, so in order to use it
> one needs a Windows license.

I have a Windows license and I own this font legally. You sound like people who
have this font installed should experience a bad font rendering only because
others don't have a Microsoft version.

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

Austin English  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Austin English  2013-09-11 12:41:08 CDT ---
Closing.

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

Artem S. Tashkinov  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Artem S. Tashkinov  2013-09-11 13:55:17 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Closing.

Sorry, why is this bug being closed? It hasn't been solved at all.

And it's perfectly valid.

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

--- Comment #5 from Dmitry Timoshkov  2013-09-11 21:33:53 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> Sorry, why is this bug being closed? It hasn't been solved at all.

The answer is in Comment 1: it's already implemented.

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

--- Comment #6 from Artem S. Tashkinov  2013-09-11 23:18:48 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > Sorry, why is this bug being closed? It hasn't been solved at all.
>
> The answer is in Comment 1: it's already implemented.

The way I see this issue - Wine's implementation is _wildly_ incorrect.

My Tahoma fonts (I have two of them) have a lot more glyphs than Wine's Tahoma,
they have two slopes, they have two weights - and you're saying that choosing
an incomplete builtin font over a system installed font which has a lot more
features is right?

I will CC Alexandre Julliard.

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

--- Comment #7 from Dmitry Timoshkov  2013-09-12 00:32:23 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> > > Sorry, why is this bug being closed? It hasn't been solved at all.
> >
> > The answer is in Comment 1: it's already implemented.
>
> The way I see this issue - Wine's implementation is _wildly_ incorrect.

I already explained why built-in Tahoma gets selected instead of a native
one for Russian locale, and that's the subject of the bug 34446.
> My Tahoma fonts (I have two of them) have a lot more glyphs than Wine's Tahoma,
> they have two slopes, they have two weights - and you're saying that choosing
> an incomplete builtin font over a system installed font which has a lot more
> features is right?

I've never said that.

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

--- Comment #8 from Austin English  ---
This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for over a
year. Is this still an issue in current (1.7.37 or newer) wine? If so, please
attach the terminal output in 1.7.37 (see http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log).

[Bug 34454] Do not use builtin TTF fonts when native appropriate fonts are present in the system

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34454

Jens Reyer  changed:

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