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[Bug 1486] Dynamically created menus do not work in Delphi apps
by Wine Bugs Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1486 ------- Additional Comments From saulius.krasuckas(a)elst.vtu.lt 2004-09-09 03:17 ------- Wine-smooth, sorry. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 1486] Dynamically created menus do not work in Delphi apps
by Wine Bugs Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1486 ------- Additional Comments From saulius.krasuckas(a)elst.vtu.lt 2004-09-09 03:14 ------- Some offtopic (excuse me): Jarto, a new patches arrives every day and amount of people interested in *fixing the root* of the bug would decrease, thus making bug getting buried deeper and deeper. IMHO many people consider this as a harm to future life of Wine. There is even joke story about it: * The greatest programming project of all took six days; on the seventh day * the programmer rested. We've been trying to debug the *&^%$#@ thing ever * since. * * Moral: design before you implement. You wrote: > 1. Accept Michael's patch > 2. Let's find out what the patch breaks The suggestion about some investigation of what gets broken is quite interesting. It would shed some light on the amount of stuff got broken. Only this the area of action should not belong to official Wine. Its unclear for me: why do you need the patch to be in official Wine tree? Does something restrict you from applying it by your hand and making your own Wine package for your favourite distro? Can you make this to be a separate project, call it Wine-smoof, for example? IMHO this is the route by which both the CrossOver and Transgaming went. And it would attract lots of advanced users which are too hot to stay on wait for one year more. I would join it if it stays uncommercial. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 1486] Dynamically created menus do not work in Delphi apps
by Wine Bugs Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1486 ------- Additional Comments From jarto(a)starsoft.fi 2004-09-09 02:17 ------- I've read all the discussions about Michael's patch. It's unfortunate that the patch was dropped. However, it's good that we know the root cause and it's documented here in Bugzilla. It's now about two years since I first noticed that menus don't work in the Delphi apps I've created. It took another year before I was able to make a simple test case. At this point I tried to solve the bug myself. When I couldn't, I submitted this bug. If I understand right, the patch won't be accepted because: 1. Somebody will reimplement the menu code properly at some point 2. The fix may break some other apps IMHO the first reason is a bad one. Nobody can say for sure when the menu code will be rewritten. There will always be areas to improve in Wine and lots of other bugs and features will end up getting a higher priority in the future. We might still be using the same menu code two more years from now. What we know is that lots of Delphi apps don't work. But we don't know what the patch may break. I'd like to suggest: 1. Accept Michael's patch 2. Let's find out what the patch breaks 3. Revert back to the old code if it broke some important application After that we'd at least know more which is better than guessing. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 1486] Dynamically created menus do not work in Delphi apps
by Wine Bugs Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1486 ------- Additional Comments From saulius.krasuckas(a)elst.vtu.lt 2004-09-09 00:56 ------- Samuel Herzog writes: > -The user wants a working application. > -The user wants to have the functions in the mainmenu. > -The user does not know what a TestCases is. > -The user is not interested in TestCases. So you urge to sacrifice Wine architecture fineness, scalability, perspective of future growth just for the few users to be able to run few applications? So, you mean Wine should be designed for minority of the world? You mean all the world should work just for few people? You are despotic person then. :-) Wine should not, IMHO. Wines license doesn't restrict you from applying any patch in your box/at your home. So, if you are using CVS to compile wine, you can do this even automatically (by adding some lines to cvs-update script once). I have just did this: --- ../cvs_update 2004-09-09 08:51:58.000000000 +0200 +++ ../cvs_update_w_patch 2004-09-09 08:50:25.000000000 +0200 @@ -55,10 +55,18 @@ export CVSROOT=:pserver:cvs(a)cvs.winehq.com:/home/wine #export CVSROOT=:pserver:cvs(a)rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de:/home/wine push_to_CVS_dir + # unapplying the patch: + cd wine + w3m -dump "http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-patches/2004/09/0074.html" | patch -Rp0 --forward + cd .. + # updating: if [[ $1 == "" ]]; then cvs update -PAd; else cvs update -PdD "$1"; fi + # applying the patch: + cd wine + w3m -dump "http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-patches/2004/09/0074.html" | patch -p0 pop_dir } and it works. It may be better idea to move the reversing/forwarind patch game to simple separate script. This would let you control several patches at once and you will be easily able to do it by hand also. Wine is supposed not to restrict you from being free, and you vote for restricting Wine. Boo! ;-) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 2394] WINE cannot install yahoo messenger
by Wine Bugs Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2394 ------- Additional Comments From saulius.krasuckas(a)elst.vtu.lt 2004-09-09 00:03 ------- IMHO this has a lot to do with a bug (or even meta-bug) number 709. I suppose you can always try using one more native dll and succeed: WINEDLLOVERRIDES=riched32=n wine ... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 1486] Dynamically created menus do not work in Delphi apps
by Wine Bugs Sept. 9, 2004

Sept. 9, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1486 ------- Additional Comments From sam_herzog(a)yahoo.com 2004-08-09 23:24 ------- Hi folks, I am a little confused by all this mails about the MainMenu stuff. Just for my personal interest I tried WINE with some of my Delphi Apps and was amazed that they worked perfect. EXCEPT the MainMenu. And an application without the working MainMenu is unusable!!! As I understand some nice people have made a patch for this but it's not integrated into WINE because some troubles with a TestCase. A TestCase which seems to be inconistent anyway with different windows versions. Let's make simple and look at this bug from a normal users view. -The user wants a working application. -The user wants to have the functions in the mainmenu. -The user does not know what a TestCases is. -The user is not interested in TestCases. So please,please,please find a way around this dilemmma. Since I am not a C programmer and a linux beginner there is not much I can do to help. But is it possible to order a WINE T-Shirt and make donation ? Where ? Thanks, Sam -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 2472] New: Wine crashes running every exe in Mandrake 10.0
by Wine Bugs Sept. 8, 2004

Sept. 8, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2472 Summary: Wine crashes running every exe in Mandrake 10.0 Product: Wine Version: 20040213 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: blocker Priority: P2 Component: wine-binary AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: pavel.reznicek(a)wo.cz Hi, I'm not the only Czech user that noticed this problem. I have the wine package distributed with Mandrake 10.0. I use the kernel 2.4.25-2mdk. After I had configured the conf file and tried to run wine on a brand new installed Mandrake 10.0, I tried to type "wine --help". The help message showed up, all OK. But then I tried to run wine /mnt/windows/winnt/notepad.exe ... and it stopped badly. The symptoms include: 1) After I pres Enter in the console, I get the cursor to the new line; and that's all. Wine becomes frozen. 2) Moreover, I can type to the console and the letters appear axyctly as I type them. 3) But ctrl-c doesn't terminate anything. 4) Many shell instances don't react and behave the same way. I think that it includes the instances of bash that were run by the user who tried to launch wine. 5) When I try to kill wine (something as "killall wine"), nothing happens. 6) Then, when I try to shut the system down, it hangs by stopping the xprint service. Another user reported that his system hangs by stopping the md service. The shutdown/reboot process then simply doesn't continue anymore. I don't know if it can help but I must also state that the Borland Kylix programming tool (either 2 and 3) (that is based on its own wine version) has very similar symptoms. I just want to help you with your GREAT task and I hope the bug I am reporting isn't already posted. Pavel (Paul) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 2470] Menus disabled when a caption is changed
by Wine Bugs Sept. 8, 2004

Sept. 8, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2470 ------- Additional Comments From hallo(a)michael-kaufmann.ch 2004-08-09 15:07 ------- It's really the same bug, you can mark it as a duplicate. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 1486] Dynamically created menus do not work in Delphi apps
by Wine Bugs Sept. 8, 2004

Sept. 8, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1486 ------- Additional Comments From hallo(a)michael-kaufmann.ch 2004-08-09 15:06 ------- My patch won't be checked in. The reason is given in these discussion threads: http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2004/09/0164.html http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2004/09/0229.html If you use a Delphi app affected by this bug, you have to apply the patch yourself and recompile WINE. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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[Bug 2424] Genotyper crashes when the registration dialog should appear
by Wine Bugs Sept. 8, 2004

Sept. 8, 2004

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2424 ------- Additional Comments From tk(a)biotix.de 2004-08-09 12:52 ------- Created an attachment (id=686) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=686&action=view) Genotyper doesn't run on cxoffice either This is what cxoffice replies. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.

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