http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23670
Summary: Ballistic Paddle game - displayed incorrectly. Product: Wine Version: 1.2-rc7 Platform: x86 URL: http://www.classicdosgames.com/game/Ballistic.html OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: minor Priority: P2 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs@winehq.org ReportedBy: turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk
This is a tricky one to describe. If you download, unzip and run paddle in Wine version 1.2-rc7, you will find the "paddle" (that is the thing you control in the game with your mouse) is almost invisible. To see what it should look like, view the screenshot in download URL.
When tested in Wine version 1.1.42 the "paddle" looked normal. Possible regression after Wine version 1.1.42?
Many 16-bit Windows games have problems running in Wine. It's worth trying old 16-bit Windows games in Wine as these are the ones Wine has trouble running.
If anyone could improve the title of this bug, please do.
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Andrew Nguyen arethusa26@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Andrew Nguyen arethusa26@gmail.com 2010-07-15 19:17:44 --- Please perform a regression test:
http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting
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--- Comment #2 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-16 06:51:38 --- (In reply to comment #1)
Please perform a regression test:
Sorry, that looks to complicated lol. This game worked fine in Wine version 1.1.42, but now (in Wine 1.2-rc7) the "paddle" thing you control is almost invisible and the bonus things that fall down are almost invisible.
Anyone can download this game via the URL link. Run in Wine, then start playing by clicking the "OK" button and then right-clicking to start the game. It's controlled with the mouse.
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Niko Sandschneider nsandschn@gmx.de changed:
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--- Comment #3 from Niko Sandschneider nsandschn@gmx.de 2010-07-16 12:38:28 --- I cannot reproduce this with wine-1.2. Both the paddle and the "bonus things" appear fine. Could you retry with a clean wine prefix?
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--- Comment #4 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-17 05:57:42 --- (In reply to comment #3)
I cannot reproduce this with wine-1.2. Both the paddle and the "bonus things" appear fine. Could you retry with a clean wine prefix?
I can't get Wine version 1.2 for Ubuntu. It installs version 1.2-rc7 so I don't know if Wine version 1.2 has solved this problem? Running the classic 16-bit games in Wine seems to be a bit "hit and miss" at the moment, as bug 20521 shows. That said, I think it's good for Wine to support these games, as 64-bit versions of Microsoft Windows won't load 16-bit programs at all!
When (if?) I get Wine version 1.2 installed, I will let you know if the Ballistic/Paddle games works properly.
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Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #5 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2010-07-17 14:00:37 --- Works fine here as well.
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--- Comment #6 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-17 15:27:41 --- Created an attachment (id=29672) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=29672) Screenshot showing problem (arrow drawn in)
This is my first attempt at adding attachments. The arrow in the screenshot of Wine 1.2 shows the problem I'm experiencing.
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David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk changed:
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--- Comment #7 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-17 15:30:02 --- Upgraded to Wine 1.2 today. If this game works for others ok, maybe it's a problem to do with Wine 1.2 in Ubuntu 64-bit (I'm using 64-bit Ubuntu).
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--- Comment #8 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-20 16:44:46 --- What's going on? The game worked perfectly in Wine 1.1.42 and now I'm using Wine 1.2 the game is almost impossible to see. Something must have happened to Wine between these versions to have caused this? This is a 16-bit game and I appreciate that I can run these retro 16-bit games on my 64-bit computer. Microsoft won't let you do that in 64-bit versions of Windows. :P
Has anyone looked at my screenshot? I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, other than explaining what's happening.
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--- Comment #9 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2010-07-20 23:17:48 --- No one else can reproduce, so something is likely wrong on your end. Try in a clean WINEPREFIX and run the regression test.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23670
David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|1.2-rc7 |1.2
--- Comment #10 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-21 14:19:44 --- (In reply to comment #9)
No one else can reproduce, so something is likely wrong on your end. Try in a clean WINEPREFIX and run the regression test.
How do I perform a "clean WINEPREFIX" and how do I run a "regression test"?
I installed Wine 1.2 using the "software centre" in Ubuntu. Can I cleanly re-install Wine 1.2?
Sorry, I've been using Ubuntu for less than 1 year, having been using Windows for years. This problem never existed until I updated Wine to version 1.2rc7, according to the instructions on the winehq website: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
Does this problem only affect users of Ubuntu, perhaps? I only upgraded Wine to get the mouse pointer working properly in Lemmix (a lemmings clone).
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23670
--- Comment #11 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-21 14:32:58 --- (In reply to comment #10)
(In reply to comment #9)
No one else can reproduce, so something is likely wrong on your end. Try in a clean WINEPREFIX and run the regression test.
How do I perform a "clean WINEPREFIX" and how do I run a "regression test"?
I installed Wine 1.2 using the "software centre" in Ubuntu. Can I cleanly re-install Wine 1.2?
Sorry, I've been using Ubuntu for less than 1 year, having been using Windows for years. This problem never existed until I updated Wine to version 1.2rc7, according to the instructions on the winehq website: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
Does this problem only affect users of Ubuntu, perhaps? I only upgraded Wine to get the mouse pointer working properly in Lemmix (a lemmings clone).
I've tried removing and re-installing Wine 1.2 and each time it re-installs, it adds several other things with Wine 1.2 - not just Wine 1.2 on its own. I still have this problem with the Paddle game that never existed before. Why am I the only one here having this problem? Has anyone tried this on Ubuntu 64-bit - which I'm using?
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--- Comment #12 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2010-07-21 15:46:45 --- Clean wineprefix: $ mv ~/.wine ~/.wine.bak
Regression test: http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting
Yes, I tried it under Lucid 64bit in 1.2 and have no problem.
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--- Comment #13 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-21 18:08:07 --- (In reply to comment #12)
Clean wineprefix: $ mv ~/.wine ~/.wine.bak
Regression test: http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting
Yes, I tried it under Lucid 64bit in 1.2 and have no problem.
The gameplay is fine - but the APPEARANCE is bad and wrong. The thing you control with your mouse and the falling bonus items are the wrong colours.
I done what you said, assuming you meant go into the terminal and perform this: mv ~/.wine ~/.wine.bak The next time I opened the BALISTIC.EXE game with Wine (after performing the step above), I got a message about Wine configuration being updated, before the game opened.
Tried the game again, the appearance is still wrong but the gameplay is fine, albeit much harder to see the "paddle" you control and other things in the gameplay.
The regression test looks scary and complicated as I'm still a newbie to Linux. I don't understand the regression testing page. Sorry, I can't help much more, other than describing the problem.
It's nice being able to use Linux and Wine and be able to run these 16-bit games that Microsoft won't allow you to run on 64-bit Windows, I appreciate the amount of work that goes into Wine. :)
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--- Comment #14 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-21 18:30:47 --- Created an attachment (id=29757) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=29757) Ballistic running in Windows XP (32-bit)
The latest attachment shows what Ballistic is supposed to look like. I've produced a screenshot of it running in Windows XP (32-bit) on the same computer that runs Ubuntu and Wine 1.2 - which shows the colours wrongly compared to how the game looks in Windows XP.
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--- Comment #15 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2010-07-21 20:19:06 --- Created an attachment (id=29760) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=29760) wine-1.2-245-g17bc7be - lucid64
Looks fine here in wine-1.2-245-g17bc7be / lucid 64.
I can't reproduce this, and without a regression test, we have nothing to go on.
If you need help running the regression test, please use the forums or #winehq or Freenode, it's not as complicated as it looks. Otherwise, the bug will probably be closed as WORKSFORME.
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--- Comment #16 from Niko Sandschneider nsandschn@gmx.de 2010-07-22 03:59:27 --- David, what video card and drivers are you using? And could you attach complete terminal output (http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-a37de3282d447376d2220d20a278ae52258551a4)? That might give a hint what is the difference between our configurations.
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--- Comment #17 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-22 07:10:05 --- (In reply to comment #16)
David, what video card and drivers are you using? And could you attach complete terminal output (http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-a37de3282d447376d2220d20a278ae52258551a4)? That might give a hint what is the difference between our configurations.
(In reply to comment #16)
David, what video card and drivers are you using? And could you attach complete terminal output (http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-a37de3282d447376d2220d20a278ae52258551a4)? That might give a hint what is the difference between our configurations.
This is very strange!!
I'm using NVIDIA GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS and all the settings are set to their defaults in Ubuntu via System > Administration > NVIDIA X Server Settings.
I've tried opening BALISTIC.EXE in the terminal with the word wine in front of it, but all that does is run the game. That said, if you run wine in a terminal for other Windows programs, you may get a few lines of text appear, but not with the ballistic game.
I had no problems running this game under Wine 1.1.42 - no appearance problems at all.
I've spent hours of my spare time learning the terminal and it's still new to me, having been using Microsoft Windows for years. I will try the regression test - if I can get it to work, I will post again.
BTW when I tested this game in Windows XP, I discovered that the mouse is not supposed to leave the game's window until you right-click. I guess that probably requires a separate bug report??
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Dmitry Timoshkov dmitry@codeweavers.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|1.2 |1.2-rc7
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--- Comment #18 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2010-07-28 06:19:43 --- Sorry, not been able to run the regression test, I can't work it out at all. :(
Since newbies to Ubuntu/Linux like myself learn of Wine to run their favourite Windows programs and games, I think we could save a lot of time and aggro if Wine had a "debug" mode included with the program. For example, in Ubuntu, if you click Applications > Wine and in there include a debug mode which collects the information that the developers of Wine are asking users to provide in these bug reports, it would save users providing incomplete or wrong information. It would save the Wine developers a LOT of time trying to track the problem by running regression tests etc and in cases like this, not being able to reproduce the problem the user is experiencing.
I'm sure users of Windows XP and later know that if something goes wrong, you get a box asking you to send the information to Microsoft. If Wine could implement something similar, the Wine developers would get the bug reports and regression tests without expecting newbies (like myself) to follow some very complicated instructions.
Sorry I've not been able to help no more. My screenshot is the best I can do in order to prove there is some glitch, but it doesn't stop me from liking Wine and appreciating the massive amount of work that goes into developing Wine.
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--- Comment #19 from Jeff Zaroyko jeffz@jeffz.name 2010-07-28 06:29:45 --- (In reply to comment #18)
Sorry, not been able to run the regression test, I can't work it out at all. :(
Did you visit the forum and ask for help, explaining what you tried and what didn't work? It's just a set of mechanical steps you need to work through to provide the required information.
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--- Comment #20 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2010-07-28 11:32:54 --- (In reply to comment #19)
(In reply to comment #18)
Sorry, not been able to run the regression test, I can't work it out at all. :(
Did you visit the forum and ask for help, explaining what you tried and what didn't work? It's just a set of mechanical steps you need to work through to provide the required information.
Yes, please visit the forums. No one else is able to reproduce this, so if you can't run the regression test, this bug should probably be closed WORKSFORME.
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Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW CC| |dimesio@earthlink.net Component|-unknown |winex11.drv Ever Confirmed|0 |1
--- Comment #21 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net 2010-08-02 15:42:44 --- I can reproduce this in openSUSE 11.1, GeForce 7600 GS, 195.36.15 driver.
Regression test results:
c29cf0591976f96c3adb30c3c3b6db59f4983251 is first bad commit commit c29cf0591976f96c3adb30c3c3b6db59f4983251 Author: Roderick Colenbrander thunderbird2k@gmail.com Date: Tue Apr 6 19:07:25 2010 +0200
winex11: Add support for 32-bit DDBs.
:040000 040000 73b8486e86ccd609ea2f0c8cf0c920b6ec3783dd 04bcf74196ee257fa4b8391041c627b89e6cbffe M dlls
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Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net changed:
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Henri Verbeet hverbeet@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #22 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2011-10-17 18:49:25 CDT --- (In reply to comment #21)
I can reproduce this in openSUSE 11.1, GeForce 7600 GS, 195.36.15 driver.
FWIW, still works for me in git. GeForce GTX 295 / 285.05.05. Rosanne, could you retry this please.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23670
--- Comment #23 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net 2011-10-18 18:46:34 CDT --- (In reply to comment #22)
(In reply to comment #21)
I can reproduce this in openSUSE 11.1, GeForce 7600 GS, 195.36.15 driver.
FWIW, still works for me in git. GeForce GTX 295 / 285.05.05. Rosanne, could you retry this please.
It is still present in wine 1.3.30-205-g472a8f7 on a system with a GeForce 7300GT card. I do not see it on my system with a GeForce 8400GS card. Per comment 17, the OR had a GeForce 7300SE/7200GS card, so it looks like this problem is specific to 7000-series Nvidia cards. Is this a Wine bug, or Wine exposing a bug elsewhere?
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Frédéric Delanoy frederic.delanoy@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #24 from Frédéric Delanoy frederic.delanoy@gmail.com 2013-06-30 14:55:01 CDT --- (In reply to comment #23)
(In reply to comment #22)
(In reply to comment #21)
I can reproduce this in openSUSE 11.1, GeForce 7600 GS, 195.36.15 driver.
FWIW, still works for me in git. GeForce GTX 295 / 285.05.05. Rosanne, could you retry this please.
It is still present in wine 1.3.30-205-g472a8f7 on a system with a GeForce 7300GT card. I do not see it on my system with a GeForce 8400GS card. Per comment 17, the OR had a GeForce 7300SE/7200GS card, so it looks like this problem is specific to 7000-series Nvidia cards. Is this a Wine bug, or Wine exposing a bug elsewhere?
Works for me in wine-1.6-rc4 (GeForce 410M).
Probably issue specific to GeForce 7 series Nvidia cards as you said.
Can you please retry with latest wine & display drivers ?
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--- Comment #25 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net 2013-06-30 15:57:07 CDT --- (In reply to comment #24)
Works for me in wine-1.6-rc4 (GeForce 410M).
Probably issue specific to GeForce 7 series Nvidia cards as you said.
Can you please retry with latest wine & display drivers ?
Sorry, but I no longer own the 7600GS card, so I can't test it.
The OR hasn't been heard from in almost 3 years. If no one else is able to test it, this could be marked abandoned.
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Stefan Dösinger stefan@codeweavers.com changed:
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--- Comment #26 from Stefan Dösinger stefan@codeweavers.com 2013-07-01 14:26:14 CDT --- I cannot reproduce this problem on my Geforce 7600 box.
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GT/PCIe/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.88 Wine 1.6-rc3
However, keyboard input appears to be broken now. I Can click the buttons at the start, demo mode works (computer plays on its own), but during normal gameplay the game doesn't respond to any keyboard buttons. It responds to mouse clicks by producing a beep.
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Frédéric Delanoy frederic.delanoy@gmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WORKSFORME
--- Comment #27 from Frédéric Delanoy frederic.delanoy@gmail.com 2013-07-01 15:14:05 CDT --- (In reply to comment #26)
I cannot reproduce this problem on my Geforce 7600 box.
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GT/PCIe/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.88 Wine 1.6-rc3
However, keyboard input appears to be broken now. I Can click the buttons at the start, demo mode works (computer plays on its own), but during normal gameplay the game doesn't respond to any keyboard buttons. It responds to mouse clicks by producing a beep.
Only playable with mouse even in native so absence of keyboard input isn't relevant.
Marking Resolved WORKSFORME
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Frédéric Delanoy frederic.delanoy@gmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED
--- Comment #28 from Frédéric Delanoy frederic.delanoy@gmail.com 2013-07-01 15:14:19 CDT --- Closing
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--- Comment #29 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2013-07-01 17:15:41 CDT --- I don't have that computer anymore with the affected Nvidia graphics, but the game looks fine on my current Nvidia graphics (GeForce GTX 560 Ti MSI card).
But now this game is not working at all in Wine (no response from the mouse). Has anyone filed a new bug report for that?
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--- Comment #30 from David turbolad995@hotmail.co.uk 2013-07-02 05:46:33 CDT --- I have filed a new bug report regarding the non-working mouse, under bug #33934.
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