[Bug 23468] New: Age of Empires 2 and 3 fail to run

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23468

Summary: Age of Empires 2 and 3 fail to run
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.2-rc5
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Both games install fine, but will not run at all.

I am new at all this and apologize for not doing a regression test. I will
however eventually figure it out.

I have run both age of empires 2 and 3  on previous versions of wine (probably
around 1.1.23)  without this problem so i am guessing a regression. I'm use
Nvidia drivers version 195.36.24 also have tried reinstalling and upgrading
drivers to the latest version. no luck, same error.

terminal spits out

james@james-desktop /media/Tera_/Programs/Games/Age Of Empires II/Age of
Empires II $ wine EMPIRES2.EXE
fixme:system:SystemParametersInfoW Unimplemented action: 110 (SPI_GETSHOWIMEUI)
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32d730,0x00000000), stub!
err:x11settings:X11DRV_ChangeDisplaySettingsEx No matching mode found
1280x1024x32 @0! (XRandR)

my display is set at 1280x1024 60hz

[Bug 23468] Age of Empires 2 and 3 fail to run

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--- Comment #1 from Vitaliy Margolen   2010-07-02 08:48:34 ---
Post output of 'xrandr' program.

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--- Comment #2 from James   2010-07-02 19:02:00 ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Post output of 'xrandr' program.

I have played around a bit since yesterday and have found that this error only
occurs when x server settings are set to "twinview" I have a tv attached to my
graphics card (gtx280) as well as my 17" Monitor. this is not a issue when i
play games with this setup with games like call of duty 4 and 6 etc

output of xrandr (when display set at twinview)

Screen 0: minimum 2080 x 1024, current 2304 x 1024, maximum 2304 x 1024
default connected 2304x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   2080x1024      50.0     51.0  
   2304x1024      51.0*

output of xrandr (when tv disabled)

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1024
default connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1280x1024      50.0*    51.0  
   1280x960       52.0  
   1152x864       53.0     54.0     55.0     56.0  
   1024x768       57.0     58.0     59.0  
   960x600        60.0  
   960x540        61.0  
   840x525        62.0     63.0     64.0     65.0  
   832x624        66.0  
   800x600        67.0     68.0     69.0     70.0  
   720x450        71.0  
   700x525        72.0     73.0  
   680x384        74.0     75.0  
   640x480        76.0     77.0     78.0     79.0     80.0  
   512x384        81.0     82.0  
   400x300        83.0  
   320x240        84.0     85.0

thanks!

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--- Comment #3 from James   2010-07-02 19:06:24 ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > Post output of 'xrandr' program.
>
> I have played around a bit since yesterday and have found that this error only
> occurs when x server settings are set to "twinview" I have a tv attached to my
> graphics card (gtx280) as well as my 17" Monitor. this is not a issue when i
> play games with this setup with games like call of duty 4 and 6 etc
>
> output of xrandr (when display set at twinview)
>
> Screen 0: minimum 2080 x 1024, current 2304 x 1024, maximum 2304 x 1024
> default connected 2304x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
>    2080x1024      50.0     51.0  
>    2304x1024      51.0*

screenshot of what nvidia-settings is telling me

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--- Comment #4 from James   2010-07-02 19:06:43 ---
Created an attachment (id=29303)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=29303)
Screenshot Nvidia X server settings

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--- Comment #5 from Dan Kegel   2010-07-02 22:26:21 ---
I wonder if those games work in Windows when somebody has two joined screens
like that...

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--- Comment #6 from James   2010-07-03 01:00:39 ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> I wonder if those games work in Windows when somebody has two joined screens
> like that...

yea they do. well i dont know about age of empires but i constantly play
mainstream games in windows with a dual view setup (mostly so the gf can watch
a movie on the tv or something whilst i go and pawn some noobs haha)

but yea, ill log into windows and give it a try. ill post update soon.

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--- Comment #7 from James   2010-07-03 01:15:38 ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> I wonder if those games work in Windows when somebody has two joined screens
> like that...

yep, works fine in windows :)

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--- Comment #8 from Dan Kegel   2010-07-03 09:31:29 ---
I wonder what Windows is returning for available video modes, then.

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--- Comment #9 from James   2010-07-04 07:40:15 ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> I wonder what Windows is returning for available video modes, then.

what do i need to do to find that out?

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--- Comment #10 from James   2010-07-05 05:28:55 ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> (In reply to comment #8)
> > I wonder what Windows is returning for available video modes, then.
>
> what do i need to do to find that out?

Hi Dan

are you referring to available video modes my card can display? Windows 7
right-click desktop (Screen Resolution, Advanced Settings, Adapter Tab,"List
all Modes") this lists a large number of modes in a scrolling list. I cannot
copy and paste the 'scrolling' list.  I've had a good browse online to find a
command line to print this information to .text file but cant seem to get
anywhere

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--- Comment #11 from James   2010-07-05 07:36:52 ---
Ok i have played around a bit and come to the following conclusion.

I can play both these games in Windows under dual view setup ONLY if I am using
two monitors using 15-pin DE-15 VGA connectors. (if i use the DE-15 VGA
connection on say the first monitor and either the hdtv,composite or s-video
connection on the second monitor it will NOT work)  BOTH screens need to be 
set to 1024 x768 and also the game must be configured at 1024 x768.

If you change the monitors both to 1280x1024,  and the game to 1280x1024, one
would assume this too would work... It does not.

To recap. These games will only work under Windows in dual-view if both
monitors are connected via 15-pin DE-15 and set at 1024x768 along with the
games configured at 1024 x768.

No matter what the resolution is configured like in Ubuntu, it will not work.

Gives error message 
"Could not initialize graphics system. 
Make sure that your video card and driver are compatible with DirectDraw."

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--- Comment #12 from James   2010-07-06 04:47:07 ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> To recap. These games will only work under Windows in dual-view if both
> monitors are connected via 15-pin DE-15 and set at 1024x768 along with the
> games configured at 1024 x768.

Ok final edit, i worded that wrong

.............These games will work in windows under dual-view without severly
interfering the second monitors resolution, only if both
monitors are connected via 15-pin DE-15 and set at 1024x768 along with the
games configured at 1024 x768..

The game will play no matter what on display one in dual view but the only way
of having a stable second monitor displaying say a movie or anything correctly
is as explained above

and of-course in Linux it wont load on either monitor :(

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--- Comment #13 from James   2010-08-05 14:48:23 ---
this releated to this bug somehow? think it might be a different problem but at
least part of it is related i think.

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--- Comment #14 from James  2010-12-07 22:00:40 CST ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> this releated to this bug somehow? think it might be a different problem but at
> least part of it is related i think.
>
> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23468

disregard this last post

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--- Comment #15 from joaopa  2011-07-18 10:22:35 CDT ---
still a bug in current wine?

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--- Comment #16 from Julian Rüger  2011-09-13 03:54:23 CDT ---
James, if you don't already know, the obvious workaround would be to run the
game in a virtual desktop.

I wonder if this is even a bug in wine at all. Age2 supports 3 resolutions, but
the main menu is hardcoded to run at 800x600 or even 640x480 (not sure right
now) and there is no way to change that (at least none that I know of).
If the graphics driver does not offer this resolution with your setup, there is
of course nothing wine can do about that. I don't know if there are any native
linux games this stubborn/unflexible about the resolution, but if there is one,
this would also fail, I think.

Not sure about Age 3, though... Since that is newer, you should be able to at
least configure the game to run at the same resolution as your display and it
should work. Can you check that?

Best regards,
Julian

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--- Comment #17 from PommeGolden  2011-12-09 02:30:40 CST ---
I don't think this is a wine bug.

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--- Comment #18 from James  2011-12-14 00:03:14 CST ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> I don't think this is a wine bug.

to be honest it really is, however i confused the shit out of myself and
probably others from what i wrote here. i would suggest deleting this bug and i
will figure out exactly what is going on and create a new bug report. i insist
that what was happening did not hapen on windows. hence yes it IS a wine bug :)

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--- Comment #19 from Julian Rüger  2011-12-14 09:51:42 CST ---
No, sir...

I'm sorry if this is a bit OT/discussion that does not belong in bugzilla, but:

If, say, the nvidia-driver and X somehow do not provide the needed
functionality, there is nothing wine can do about that. (See the xinput2-story)
It could also be a bug in the driver.

In those cases, we can only wait till the problems beyond our control are
solved, or provide a workaround/hack in the meantime.
And this workaround is the virtual-desktop window ;)

So, I suggest we resolve this bug as invalid, and you open a new bug if you
figure out the exact problem, like you said.

Thanks and best regards,
Julian

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--- Comment #20 from Wylda  2011-12-14 15:28:16 CST ---
> will figure out exactly what is going on and create a new bug report.

OK, try again later (http://wiki.winehq.org/Bugs)

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--- Comment #21 from Wylda  2011-12-14 15:28:36 CST ---

Closing.