[Bug 29400] New: Bug submission requirements: guidelines not clear that you should be using the latest beta.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29400

Bug #: 29400
           Summary: Bug submission requirements: guidelines not clear that
                    you should be using the latest beta.
           Product: WineHQ Bugzilla
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: bugzilla-unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
    Classification: Unclassified

When clicking to lodge a new bug you're directed to read
http://wiki.winehq.org/Bugs which says you should be "using the latest version
of Wine" & in turn directs you to http://www.winehq.org/site/download There,
two latest releases, stable & development, are listed.

Next, http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu hints that you should go for stable
rather than development release, so I did, especially as I've never known a bug
submission process that requires you to be running a beta. But, that's what I
was told to do, in the comments, when I actually submitted bug 29398 & bug
29399

I've since had
http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-0bae04b4126dffb8a08bf020982badacb6f367ff
pointed out to me, which more strongly hints the opposite - that you should run
the development release.

More clarity about this in the instructions presented to users when lodging bug
reports would be a good idea. The barriers are high enough already - yet
another account to register for (openoffice, google code, sourceforge,...),
system to get the hang of, & process to learn. I'd already put this off for
months.

Not a complaint, just a suggestion.

Cheers.

[Bug 29400] Bug submission requirements: guidelines not clear that you should be using the latest beta.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29400

Dmitry Timoshkov  changed:

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           Severity|normal                      |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from Dmitry Timoshkov  2011-12-21 03:31:21 CST ---
It's a wiki, just add your comment/clarification there.

[Bug 29400] Bug submission requirements: guidelines not clear that you should be using the latest beta.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29400

--- Comment #2 from Rosanne DiMesio  2011-12-21 11:12:26 CST ---
IMO, the instructions are precisely correct as written: what is wanted is the
latest version, period. Most of the time this will be the latest development
version, but for the two weeks after a new major stable release it will be that
stable release.

As for the Ubuntu downloads page, what it suggests is that users might want to
stick with the stable version if it is working for them. If they're trying to
file bugs against it, obviously it's not.

[Bug 29400] Bug submission requirements: guidelines not clear that you should be using the latest beta.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29400

Austin English  changed:

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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED
           Severity|enhancement                 |normal

--- Comment #3 from Austin English  2011-12-27 05:49:12 CST ---
Page now says:

You are using the latest DEVELOPMENT version of Wine (not stable) (See
downloads for information on how to get the latest).

[Bug 29400] Bug submission requirements: guidelines not clear that you should be using the latest beta.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29400

Jerome Leclanche  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Jerome Leclanche  2012-02-29 19:21:46 CST ---
(In reply to comment #3)
Austin, would it be possible to create a javascript alert if, when submitting,
the reported version is older than the current one by 1-2 versions?

Something along the lines of:

You reported you are using wine-1.3.25. The most recent version is
wine-1.4-rc5. This bug may be invalid, you should try with the latest version.
  [OK]  [Cancel]

[Bug 29400] Bug submission requirements: guidelines not clear that you should be using the latest beta.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29400

Austin English  changed:

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             Status|RESOLVED                    |CLOSED

--- Comment #5 from Austin English  2012-02-29 21:02:51 CST ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #3)
> Austin, would it be possible to create a javascript alert if, when submitting,
> the reported version is older than the current one by 1-2 versions?
>
> Something along the lines of:
>
> You reported you are using wine-1.3.25. The most recent version is
> wine-1.4-rc5. This bug may be invalid, you should try with the latest version.
>   [OK]  [Cancel]

Presumably, sure. I don't know though, I know Newman doesn't want to edit the
code base substantially from source though.

Ask in #winehackers / wine-devel, I suppose.