[Bug 13470] New: Warhammer : Battle March (Loading)

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Summary: Warhammer : Battle March (Loading)
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.0-rc2
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=13387)
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Console logs

Actually, warhammer is playable at decent speed.
The troubleshooting is starting the game, or charging a map (mission, campaign,
etc.)

It requires arround 10min to have the first game menu... 
And it requires other 10minutes if you want to play.

The game is unplayble since it requires 20minutes to start gaming.
But the game itself even with highest options work very well.

The problem is the same with older wine versions.
And apparently the Warhammer mark of chaos (whitout battle march addon
installed)
Have the same loading problem.

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--- Comment #1 from Austin English   2008-11-24 16:08:48 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.9 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #2 from Troy James Sobotka   2008-12-21 12:15:01 ---
As of 1.1.0 via the Ubuntu Debian repoitories running version 1.0 of this game,
the problem persists.  It is impossible to patch the game and test it as the
copy protection issue prevents this game from being played.

I'd suggest that this bug is probably pertaining to the NOCD edition, as with
all of my experiments using a legally purchased copy, the game will not load
under Wine.

Related Bugs:
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16587

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--- Comment #3 from Troy James Sobotka   2008-12-29 12:03:18 ---
As of 1.1.11, this bug still exists.

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--- Comment #4 from Austin English   2008-12-29 12:55:11 ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> As of 1.1.11, this bug still exists.

Please attach terminal output.

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--- Comment #5 from Troy James Sobotka   2008-12-29 14:12:17 ---
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Full console output from Wine 1.1.11 running on 2.14 version of application

Notes:
 * Full console output up to main menu, including exit.
 * Version 2.14 of Warhammer: Battle March.
 * 1.1.11 version of Wine from WineHQ Ubuntu Intrepid repository.

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--- Comment #6 from Troy James Sobotka   2009-01-03 14:06:25 ---
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Warhammer: Battle March 2.14 output from Wine 1.1.12

Disc access loading issue confirmed again under 1.1.12.

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--- Comment #7 from Troy James Sobotka   2009-01-03 14:13:52 ---
Disc access bug is also blocking further resolution on bug 16765 (
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16765 )

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--- Comment #8 from Troy James Sobotka   2009-01-19 20:55:19 ---
Confirmed again (still not marked as confirmed) as of 1.1.13.

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--- Comment #9 from Austin English   2009-01-20 01:16:42 ---
Confirming then.

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--- Comment #10 from Austin English   2009-07-21 13:55:28 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.26 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #11 from Antoine Mazeas   2009-07-21 14:56:52 ---
I just tested, and I got the same terribly long loading times. Still an issue
as of 1.1.26, unfortunately.

The game runs great though, once it's loaded

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--- Comment #12 from Troy James Sobotka   2009-12-31 22:34:46 ---
Brutal load times remain.

This has to be a low level Wine issue. The load times are up into ten minutes
for a mission.

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--- Comment #13 from Troy James Sobotka   2009-12-31 22:35:16 ---
Forgot to mention - updated test performed with 1.1.35

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--- Comment #14 from Troy James Sobotka   2010-08-05 00:20:51 ---
Tested again on 1.2

Same issue. Excruciating loading times.

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--- Comment #15 from Valeriy Malov  2011-09-23 16:47:06 CDT ---
Still an issue in 1.3.28

Tried to hook it with strace in the middle of game loading, it just runs same
few calls in circles. Only thing that changes is times and gettimeofday
argument, sometimes gettimeofday is called twice.

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--- Comment #16 from Valeriy Malov  2011-09-23 16:49:01 CDT ---
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chunk of strace output loop during game loading

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--- Comment #17 from joaopa  2011-09-24 00:38:56 CDT ---
Does this demo show the same problem?

http://games.softpedia.com/get/Games-Demo/Warhammer--Mark-of-Chaos-Battle-Ma...

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--- Comment #18 from Valeriy Malov  2011-09-24 02:22:45 CDT ---
For me, demo seems to be unaffected. Loading times are somewhat long, but I
don't get black screen for five minutes before loading screen.

On a side note, from Google it seems like loading time is common problem for
people running it on a native OS too, so it could be an exaggerated bug from
the original game or even expected behavior.

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--- Comment #19 from Troy James Sobotka  2011-09-24 11:20:51 CDT ---
Valeriy Malov 2011-09-24 02:22:45 CDT
"On a side note, from Google it seems like loading time is common problem for
people running it on a native OS too, so it could be an exaggerated bug from
the original game or even expected behavior."

I assure you it is _not_ an exaggerated bug report.

The loading time difference between Wine's implementation and the proper OS is
a radical departure. The proper OS clearly loads a good deal of high resolution
textures and such, but it is possibly 1/50th of the loading time via the Wine
implementation.

The loading time takes upwards of five minutes, sometimes into the eight to ten
minute range.

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--- Comment #20 from Austin English  2013-11-13 16:51:10 CST ---
This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for 2 years.
Is this still an issue in current (1.7.6 or newer) wine? If so, please attach
the terminal output in 1.7.6 (see http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log).

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--- Comment #21 from James Carthew  2013-11-18 15:24:29 CST ---
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Log file for Warhammer Battle March slow load times.

This is the debug output from running battle march. when running it had
extremely long loading times.

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--- Comment #22 from James Carthew  2013-11-18 15:26:28 CST ---
Tested in wine 1.7.4, issue is still occurring, confirmed on 3.10-3-amd64
debian 8.0 64-bit Jessie. 8gb ram, i7 i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz 8gb Ram, NVIDIA
Geforce 770 GTX 4GB running on a 120gb SSD.

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--- Comment #23 from Austin English  ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.7.36 or newer) wine? If so, please attach
terminal output.

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--- Comment #24 from [e-mail] ---
if you start the game like this

WINEDEBUG=-all, wine game.exe

Does it boost the starting speed radically?

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--- Comment #25 from [e-mail] ---
The last provided log contains 2 crashes and lots of console spam. Getting rid
of those could speed up the loading speed. Some of the comments indicated that
demo version is uneffected and this was said to be an issue with at windows
too.

Since there is no recent replies. Suggesting needinfo. It's hard to get this
marked fixed without someone having the game.

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--- Comment #26 from Rémi Basco  ---
(In reply to winetest from comment #24)
> if you start the game like this
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> WINEDEBUG=-all, wine game.exe
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> Does it boost the starting speed radically?

I follow your tip and start with WINEDEBUG=-all, but nothing change.

I use winehq-stable 6.0.1 from the WineHQ repository on Ubuntu MATE 20.04.2.

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--- Comment #27 from Federico Dossena  ---
Can confirm that the bug still exists in 6.18 (also tested with ESYNC and
FSYNC). I can't figure out the exact cause but I see the system doing MILLIONS
of context switches while loading, that may be a clue.

Config:
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
AMD Radeon RX 6900XT (Mesa driver)
Manjaro 21 with Linux 5.14 kernel
Wine 6.18 (tested mainline, staging, proton)

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--- Comment #28 from Stefan Lipsmeier  ---
The 'Warhammer: Mark of Chaos Performance Fix' solved the slow loading bug for
me. Just follow the instructions here:

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Warhammer:_Mark_of_Chaos#Slow_loading.2C_s....

You will only have to replace one DLL in the games directory.

I am running game version 2.14 from GOG under Linux Mint.
It fixed the issue running directly on Wine 5.0 and under Proton 7.0-5.

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--- Comment #29 from Federico Dossena  ---
(In reply to Stefan Lipsmeier from comment #28)
> The 'Warhammer: Mark of Chaos Performance Fix' solved the slow loading bug
> for me. Just follow the instructions here:
>  https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Warhammer:_Mark_of_Chaos#Slow_loading.
> 2C_stuttering.2C_etc.
>
> You will only have to replace one DLL in the games directory.
>
> I am running game version 2.14 from GOG under Linux Mint.
> It fixed the issue running directly on Wine 5.0 and under Proton 7.0-5.

I made that fix a few months ago. In my article
(https://fdossena.com/?p=whmoc/i.md) I explained the reason for the performance
issue, it's not really a wine bug, the game has some leftover debug code that
spams a system call that happens to be really slow on wine, so it's more of a
combination of dev stupidity and a wine shortcoming.