[Bug 58421] New: Meta Trader 4 still does not start under Wine 10.9

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http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58421

Bug ID: 58421
           Summary: Meta Trader 4 still does not start under Wine 10.9
           Product: Wine
           Version: 10.9
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

After upgrading wine to 10.9 Meta Trader 4 still does not start.
But with this wine version it seams to be not the same issue as under wine 10.3
to 10.7 (described in https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58011 and
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_ug.cgi?id=57950 ).
This time there in no error message window (as it was under wine 10.3 to 10.7)
and a try to start MT4 in the linux terminal generates other error (not the
same as previously) as shown below:
https://pastebin.com/kBLVS6G8

Downgrading to wine 10.2-2 temporary solves the issue (MT4 starts, at least
under Manjaro Linux, with Windows 11 set in wine settings).

[Bug 58421] Meta Trader 4 does not start

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Ken Sharp  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Summary|Meta Trader 4 still does    |Meta Trader 4 does not
                   |not start under Wine 10.9   |start

[Bug 58421] Meta Trader 4 does not start

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--- Comment #1 from Ken Sharp  ---
> 003c:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.

How are you running this? Is it in a chroot/container?

Please show the result of
$ echo $DISPLAY

[Bug 58421] Meta Trader 4 does not start

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Ken Sharp  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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     Ever confirmed|0                           |1
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |NEEDINFO

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--- Comment #2 from win.user  ---
Normally, I start Meta Trader 4 by clicking on the MT4 icon. When I tried to
start Meta Trader 4 under wine 10.9 in this way, nothing was happening (no
error message window as it was under wine 10.3 to 10.7).

To see the errors under wine 10.9, I started MT4 (without any chroot/container)
in my default Linux terminal (xfce4-terminal) by typing the command "wine
terminal.exe" (and being in MT4 directory).

The result of "echo $DISPLAY" command is one line only: 
:0.0

[Bug 58421] Meta Trader 4 does not start

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Ken Sharp  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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       Distribution|---                         |ArchLinux
           Keywords|                            |download
                URL|                            |https://web.archive.org/web
                   |                            |/20101228171757/http://www.
                   |                            |metatrader4.com/files/mt4se
                   |                            |tup.exe

--- Comment #3 from Ken Sharp  ---
> wine terminal.exe

This is the 32-bit application, and as of 10.8-2 Arch, and therefore Manjaro,
switched to the new (experimental) WoW64.
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/wine/-/commit/b92e...

sha1: f6d9fd62eb68acfb25d169caab3fde43c653223e mt4-227.exe
https://web.archive.org/web/20101228171757/http://www.metatrader4.com/files/...

I tested on Manjaro but cannot recreate the issue. We probably have slightly
different versions, however.

With Wine 10.2-2:
$ winetricks -q mfc42
$ wine mt4-227.exe
Application starts fine.

$ echo disabled > ~/.wine/.update-timestamp # Only way to trigger any kind of
issue

With Wine 10.9:
$ wine terminal.exe
Crash caught by MT4 and exits

$ wineboot -u
$ wine terminal.exe
Application starts fine.

My guess is that you are using an old wineprefix.

Can you try running "wineboot -u" and then run MT4 again? If this fails can you
try a fresh install in a clean wineprefix?

[Bug 58421] Meta Trader 4 does not start

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--- Comment #4 from win.user  ---
I tried everything you suggested and it seems that this (experimental) WoW64
mode is responsible for all those problems - with every Windows program (not
just MT4) under wine-10.9.
So under  wine-10.9:
"wineboot -u" generates errors
and "winecfg" generates the same errors
and neither MT4 nor any other Windows program is starting.

After creating a new clean winprefix, there are still errors (although slightly
different) and nothing starts up.

All the errors generated by the individual attempts I posted below:
https://pastebin.com/3RDNRnri

Fortunately, wine-10.2-2 is working.

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--- Comment #5 from win.user  ---
After upgrading to wine 10.11 this issue still persists.

Additionally, I discovered that creating a new clean winprefix under Wine 10.9
(and under Wine 10.11) consists of only 6 folders with a total of 3 files.

Now the following error message seems to be understandable, because in this new
winprefix, in the directory ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/, where files like
.dll should be located, there are no files.
~~~
winecfg
wine: created the configuration directory '~/.wine'
002c:err:seh:NtRaiseException Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0 addr
0x6fffffc0daff
wine: could not load kernel32.dll, status c0000135
~~~

(And creating a new clean winprefix under wine 10.2-2 consists of 157 folders
with a total of 1767 files. And under this Wine version, everything works
correctly.)

[Bug 58421] Since Wine 10.9 it in not possible to run any program and create a new working wineprefix

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win.user  changed:

What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Summary|Meta Trader 4 does not      |Since Wine 10.9 it in not
                   |start                       |possible to run any program
                   |                            |and create a new working
                   |                            |wineprefix

[Bug 58421] Since Wine 10.9 it in not possible to run any program and create a new working wineprefix

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--- Comment #6 from win.user  ---
I created this bug report because of MetaTrader 4 (the only application I use
under Wine).

Now, however, I see that:
- the problem affects literally all programs under Wine, including those
pre-installed like: winecfg, wineboot or notepad. None of them can be started,
- in addition, since Wine 10.9, it is not possible to create a new and working
clean wineprefix (there are only three files in this new folder, instead of
about 1800 files).

This issue is similar as in the bug report:
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58335
Like the author of this bug report, my computer does not support AVX.
However, we differ in the Linux distribution. I use Manjaro Linux (based on
ArchLinux), and the author of Bug 58335 uses Fedora. And there is no info about
any problems with new wineprefix in Bug 58335.

I hope that the additional information will help you to diagnose the problem
and fix it.
In the meantime, I'm changing the title of this thread to be more adequate to
this issue.