[Bug 14236] New: Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

Summary: Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks
           Product: Wine
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=14525)
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Debug output from firing up Wine with Quickbooks.

I have just built Wine 0.9.61 under Gentoo. I fired up my copy of Quickbooks,
which appeared to work but still generated some diagnostic output as QB started
(attached).

The version of QB that I am running is 3.0. I know that it is old, but the
debug trace indicates that there are still problems with your emulation, so I
though that this was worth submitting. Last time that I tried this it did not
work at all.

The file system that QB resides on is a real NT4 system, Samba mounted on to
Linux-gentoo/x86.

I have done some fiddling around with QB under Wine. It appears to work OK, but
I have not tried doing any transactions that update the data files. I am
looking forwards to throwing out my 'doze box.

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

--- Comment #1 from Roderick Colenbrander   2008-07-02 06:05:01 ---
Running apps from a native windows partition and especially a network one isn't
supported. Second Wine 0.9.61 isn't supported anymore update to Wine 1.1.0.

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

Austin English  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Austin English   2008-07-02 08:26:09 ---
Invalid. Install quickbooks in wine (1.1.0) and try again. If it still doesn't
run, provided updated logs and reopen.

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

Raphael Mankin  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Raphael Mankin   2008-07-02 10:58:46 ---
I have now rerun this twice.

1. wine 0.9.61 with QB and files in the local (virtual) C drive. Similar error
as before.

2. Winde 1.1.0 as above. (similar errors)

AFAICT QB actually works. The diagnostic output does not appear to be
particularly poisonous. Still, it is something that ought to be cleared up.

I have put the trace files at http://mankin.org.uk/bugs/

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

--- Comment #4 from Austin English   2008-07-02 12:42:24 ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> I have now rerun this twice.
> - wine 0.9.61 with QB and files in the local (virtual) C drive. Similar error
>
> as before.
> - Winde 1.1.0 as above. (similar errors)

Did you install it in wine? Or just copy the files?
> AFAICT QB actually works. The diagnostic output does not appear to be
> particularly poisonous. Still, it is something that ought to be cleared up.

If it runs, their is no bug. Terminal output can be ignored. If it bothers you,
either run with WINEDEBUG=-all, or redirect to /dev/null.

Bug sounds invalid...

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

--- Comment #5 from Austin English   2008-07-02 12:44:01 ---
Also, please cd to the directory first, rather than 'raph@panache ~ $ wine
~/.wine/drive_c/qbooksw3/qbw.exe'

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

--- Comment #6 from Raphael Mankin   2008-07-02 13:20:14 ---
I have now rerun with a 'cd' to the program directory first. Similar errors as
before. See http://mankin.org.uk/bugs/wine_debug4.txt.

I have also tried running 'wine explorer.exe' and then double-clicking on the
QB program. Same sort of output as it starts QB.

The thing that bothers me is not that there is debug output as that what is
says is 'unhandled exception'. I have been in programming for long enough to
know that that tends to be bad news.

I shall continue to play with it to see how reliable it is and whether I can
actually do useful work with it. You seem to be so nearly there with the
emulation that it seems a shame not to clean up these remaining glitches -
though I dare say you may be getting a bit war weary after all these years of
effort ;-)

In answer to your question, I copied the files. The files were copied to my
current NT4 system from a previous one. This version of QB is quite unfussy; I
can't speak for newer ones.

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

James Hawkins  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from James Hawkins   2008-07-02 13:22:34 ---
Invalid.  You can't copy an installation from windows and expect it to work. 
What about all the registry entries and component registrations?  If you can't
install it in wine, open a bug report (check for duplicates first).

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

James Hawkins  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from James Hawkins   2008-07-02 13:22:42 ---
Closing.

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

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Raphael Mankin  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Raphael Mankin   2008-07-02 13:40:18 ---
This version does not use registry entries. It is far too old. It has worked
perfectly well for about 10 years without registry entries, it is not going to
start needing them now. There is no end of 'doze software that does not use the
registry.

If you don't *want* to investigate, just say so, but please don't make spurious
excuses. You seem to be so close to having a good product, why are you spoiling
it now?

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Vincent Povirk  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Vincent Povirk   2008-07-02 13:46:40 ---
Does the same setup (running Quickbooks over a network or copying the
installation into the C: drive) work on a Windows machine that has never had
Quickbooks installed?

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

James Hawkins  changed:

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--- Comment #11 from James Hawkins   2008-07-02 13:47:07 ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> This version does not use registry entries. It is far too old. It has worked
> perfectly well for about 10 years without registry entries, it is not going to
> start needing them now. There is no end of 'doze software that does not use the
> registry.

Policy.  You can't guarantee that the files are the only thing changed in the
system by the installer of this product.  You assume that's the case.
> If you don't *want* to investigate, just say so, but please don't make spurious
> excuses. You seem to be so close to having a good product, why are you spoiling
> it now?

You're not helping the project get any better by filing an invalid bug report
and not filing a valid bug report for the installer (assuming it doesn't work).
 As of this moment, there are 4024 open bug reports for us to deal with, so yes
we do have to pick and choose what we work on, and your report is getting
bumped because it goes against our policy of not copying installs from a
windows machine.

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

James Hawkins  changed:

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--- Comment #12 from James Hawkins   2008-07-02 13:48:34 ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> Does the same setup (running Quickbooks over a network or copying the
> installation into the C: drive) work on a Windows machine that has never had
> Quickbooks installed?

Vincent, don't incite him.  We don't support this configuration *whatsoever*. 
Bug reporters have responsibilities as well as the developers when filing bug
reports.  One of those responsibilities is to properly install the software in
wine.  Closing again.  Please do not reopen.

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

--- Comment #13 from Austin English   2008-07-02 14:07:52 ---
If the software runs fine, ignore the exception. If you find any _actual_ bugs,
please, by all means, file new reports.

[Bug 14236] Wine 0.9.61 *almost* runs Quickbooks

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14236

--- Comment #14 from Raphael Mankin   2008-07-03 03:35:11 ---
This version works perfectly when run froma netwrok drive. It also works when
copied.

This installation was never *installed*; it was *copied* (zip/unzip) from a
pervious machine over 10 years ago. IIRC it previously ran on W95/8. It appears
to be a simple, free standing executable with no clever stuff like registry
usage.