[Bug 11638] New: Panzer General 2 doesn't work

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11638

Summary: Panzer General 2 doesn't work
           Product: Wine
           Version: 0.9.54.
          Platform: PC-x86-64
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Hello all,

I use Fedora 8 and wine 0.9.54 (the rpm provided by the official repos).

Wine appears somewhat ok. Anyways, I'm trying to run a W95/98 game, Panzer
General 2. The Wine site says it works fine.
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=124 2

I was able to get the game running by changing to a Virtual Desktop and it
loads to the main menu screen fine. However, after I start a scenario, the game
loads up with the game control menu, but the central part of the screen where
the map of the scenario should be doesn't change. It just stays the same
graphic as the previous main menu screen. Clicking on the button to look at the
strategic map crashes the game. Basically it appears anything with some bit of
graphics doesn't work.

I've changed Emulation to W95 or W98 for the program, and also played with the
Video modes, but none of this helps. Any ideas? It looks like a video problem.
> From the below error message, I'm wondering if I can change to an 8-bit window

for the game to work.

Note :
1. this bug seems to be exactly the same that when I wanted to use PG2 under
Win XP without having set the "Win 95/98 compatibility mode" in the properties
of its desktop shortcut.
2. I use the official game CD to install and run the game, not an ISO (I've
bought it).

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--- Comment #1 from Mars   2008-02-25 04:38:33 ---
I remember I got the same bug running the game under Win 95/98 without having
put the CD in it's drive.

This seems to be really a regression from previous versions

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--- Comment #2 from Lei Zhang   2008-02-26 02:00:47 ---
PG2 works just fine for me with Wine 0.9.56.

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--- Comment #3 from Luke Bratch   2008-02-26 04:37:37 ---
Mars, do not reply directly to wine-bugs, post in Bugzilla.  Email read:

"Thanx to report that !

I have not still the 0.9.56 version, Fedora hasn't packaged it.
I still use 0.9.55.

How do you launch OPanzer.exe ? with Wine File ?
What version of Win do you set ? 95 ? 98 ?

Thanx to help me. :)

Martial"

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--- Comment #4 from Lei Zhang   2008-02-26 11:28:50 ---
I installed PG2 into ~/.wine/drive_c/panzer2, then I did:

cd ~/.wine/drive_c/panzer2
wine PANZER2.EXE

I never changed my windows version, left it at the default - win2k. I don't
have an "OPanzer.exe"... was that a typo or are we talking about different
games here?

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--- Comment #5 from Mars   2008-02-26 14:39:29 ---
It's the same game. I've installed wine 0.9.56 from taball this afternoon, and
the problem still exists. I don't know why ...

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--- Comment #6 from Lei Zhang   2008-02-26 15:33:24 ---
Did you try with a clean .wine directory?

mv ~/.wine ~/.wine.bak
wineprefixcreate

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--- Comment #7 from Austin English   2008-06-03 13:24:38 ---
Is this still an issue in 1.0-rc3?

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--- Comment #8 from dan   2008-07-09 15:38:35 ---
I've been having this problem too since wine 9.46 (when I first tried it and
have been trying to run the game with each succesive version.  I am now running
wine 1.1 on Kubuntu 8.04 and to no avail.  The game is still displaying the
same symptoms as reported by the origional poster.

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--- Comment #9 from Mars   2008-07-10 11:58:12 ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> Is this still an issue in 1.0-rc3?

I currently use the Fedora 8 rpm wine-1.0-1.fc8. I don't want anymore to
compile from tarball. The game doesn't work with this version, I'll try again
later.

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--- Comment #10 from Austin English   2009-01-21 10:51:40 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.13 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #11 from dan   2009-01-21 20:18:40 ---

First off sorry Austin if you got my email.  I've spent a lot of time trying to
get this game to work and it's insulting to see it listed as "platinum" in the
Apps DB.

No no progress.  For the past four years or so I've been unsuccessful at
running it despite changing machines, distributions, keeping up with the latest
wine versions etc...

I don't know what I'm doing wrong that others can so easily make it work.  I
also suspect the App DB maintainers may be a bit too overzealous in their
reporting of a success.

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--- Comment #12 from Austin English   2009-01-21 22:01:52 ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> First off sorry Austin if you got my email.  I've spent a lot of time trying to
> get this game to work and it's insulting to see it listed as "platinum" in the
> Apps DB.

Hmm, no...
> No no progress.  For the past four years or so I've been unsuccessful at
> running it despite changing machines, distributions, keeping up with the latest
> wine versions etc...
>
> I don't know what I'm doing wrong that others can so easily make it work.  I
> also suspect the App DB maintainers may be a bit too overzealous in their
> reporting of a success.

Try e-mailing the maintainer?

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--- Comment #13 from joaopa   2009-01-21 23:15:32 ---
Does the demo

http://www.download.com/Panzer-General-II-demo/3000-7562_4-10011300.html

show the same problems?

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--- Comment #14 from Rico   2009-01-22 11:40:52 ---
Please add your hardware/software specifications (graphics card name + driver
version, arch, ...). Could be that a specific render path is broken or that
this happens only on 64bit.

You could also attach a log (which includes the command to start the app).

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--- Comment #15 from dan   2009-01-23 17:12:36 ---

Doubt this is 64bit specific since I had this problem while using 32bit systems
(see "Note" at the end).  I seem to recall the d3d error as always being there
though.  All of my systems have been stock installations but I do keep up with
the latest files, sometimes to my detriment ;)

Hardware:

Processor: AMD X2 5600
Motherboard: ASUS M2N-E NF570ULTRA
EVGA 256Mb GForce 8600GTS

Software:

Ubuntu 64bit 8.10
Driver: NVidia driver version 177

Error after execution:

fixme:d3d:IWineD3DImpl_FillGLCaps OpenGL implementation supports 32 vertex
samplers and 32 total samplers
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DImpl_FillGLCaps Expected vertex samplers + MAX_TEXTURES(=8) >
combined_samplers
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32f77c,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_desktop_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to
8
fixme:d3d_surface:IWineD3DBaseSurfaceImpl_Blt Can't handle WINEDDBLT_ASYNC flag
right now.
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_Release (0x13d600) Device released with resources
still bound, acceptable but unexpected
fixme:d3d:dumpResources Leftover resource 0x145a20 with type
1,WINED3DRTYPE_SURFACE

Note:

I have also had the exact same problem on two machines one with a AMD T-bird
and the other with an Athlon XP processor.  Both used standard ASUS
motherboards (don't remember the exact but they had VIA chipsets).  Video cards
were PNY GForce4 MX440.  In both cases I used officially released NVidia
drivers.  Versions of Linux were a variety from Mandrake to the latest versions
of SUSE for two years up until about a year ago, to the latest versions of
Ubuntu.  I attempted to run the game with the latest dev releases of wine at
various times. over the past four years.

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--- Comment #16 from Rico   2009-01-24 06:20:18 ---
@dan: The demo runs here without any trouble. GTS8800 + 180.18. Could you try
it?

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--- Comment #17 from dan   2009-01-30 23:07:01 ---
Upgraded to 180 drivers still no go.  Same problem, looks like same error.

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--- Comment #18 from Mars   2009-01-31 03:40:12 ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> Upgraded to 180 drivers still no go.  Same problem, looks like same error.

I think it's NOT a driver or arch problem.
Remember that we got the same behavior under Win XP without having enabled the
Win95/98 compatibility mode.
Remember that we got the same behavior under Win 95/98 if the CD wasn't put
into the driver.

Couldn't it be a CR-ROM problem ? An hardware protection ?

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--- Comment #19 from dan   2009-01-31 12:20:35 ---
Win 95 or 98 doesn't make a difference.  The only difference the CDROM has is
that the cut scenes play but I still cant play once a scenario is launched. 
The map window is black and retains shadows of what was there before but no hex
field or units.  Scrolling over with my mouse the I get no feedback of the type
of hex it's over either.

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--- Comment #20 from Mars   2009-01-31 12:50:59 ---
Did you test this game under Win XP ? I did it and got the same bug : no map
gackground, but I can still view all units and control panel. I had to enable
Win95/98 compatibility mode to get a correct display under Win XP. It seems to
be the same bug that this one.

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--- Comment #21 from dan   2009-01-31 13:07:19 ---
I see what your saying.  No.  Linux only.  Been Windows free for 7 years.

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--- Comment #22 from Austin English   2009-08-05 10:15:38 ---
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.26 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #23 from dan   2009-08-05 11:18:02 ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> Is this still an issue in current (1.1.26 or newer) wine?

Yes.  I checked it as soon as .26 was availible for Ubuntu.

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--- Comment #24 from Mars   2009-08-18 14:17:50 ---
Recompiled from tarball, always the same bug...

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--- Comment #25 from Dmitry Timoshkov   2009-08-18 23:09:03 ---
Adding a comment is enough.

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--- Comment #26 from dan   2009-08-18 23:16:53 ---
(In reply to comment #25)
> Adding a comment is enough.

??? Not sure what you mean.

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--- Comment #27 from Vitaliy Margolen   2009-08-18 23:20:33 ---
Don't change original reported Wine version.

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--- Comment #28 from Austin English   2009-08-21 20:52:41 ---
(In reply to comment #26)
> (In reply to comment #25)
> > Adding a comment is enough.
>
> ??? Not sure what you mean.

Don't change the version, just a comment saying 'Still present in wine 1.1.x'
is enough.

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--- Comment #29 from Mars   2009-08-22 07:43:03 ---
The bug remains with Wine 1.1.28 (compiled from sources on Fedora 8 i386).
Tried using Wine in Windows 95 compatibility mode.

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--- Comment #30 from Mars   2009-09-01 04:12:49 ---
TYI, the bug doesn't appear with this demo:
http://download.cnet.com/Panzer-General-II-demo/3000-7562_4-10011300.html

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--- Comment #31 from dan   2009-09-01 14:28:16 ---
Agreed.  I tried it this morning and it appears to work on my Ubuntu 9.04 64bit
system.  However, moving the cursor I can see there are still some video issues
but that may be a clue as to what is causing this with the full version.

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--- Comment #32 from dan   2009-09-04 13:07:49 ---
Just tried the latest 1.1.29 and no dice.  Still the same problem.

However, I ran accross openpg2 which uses some of the origional files and runs
well enough to do a battle or two but it's pretty buggy and unstable under
wine.

What I wouldn't give for a Linux naive game of this type (yes I've played
Battle for Wesnoth but there's nothing like a good WWII hex based strategy game
without a lot of gimmicks).

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--- Comment #33 from Morten Clausen   2009-12-14 12:27:33 ---
Check permissions on the directories. If any are read-only, even Windows will
show this error.

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--- Comment #34 from John Pietrzak   2010-01-19 13:14:51 ---
I had this same problem (no map display), but was able to fix it by copying the
entire "MAP" directory on the CD into the "panzer2" directory on the hard
drive.  I don't know why that would fix it, though.  (Maybe the installer
should have copied over the maps?)

Anyway, this might be something for others with this problem to try out...

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--- Comment #35 from Austin English  2011-03-29 19:30:42 CDT ---
This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for 6
months. Is this still an issue in current (1.3.16 or newer) wine?

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--- Comment #36 from John Pietrzak  2011-10-02 16:48:04 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #35)
> This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for 6
> months. Is this still an issue in current (1.3.16 or newer) wine?

I finally got around to trying this again.  Just installed wine 1.3.29, tried
PGII again, and had same behavior as before: blank black map screen.  After
copying the MAP directory off the CD and into the drive_c/panzer2 directory,
the game works as expected.

Apparently, either the files are not being copied over like they should, or the
game is not finding the files on the CD...

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--- Comment #37 from Morten Clausen  2011-10-03 06:43:09 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #36)
> (In reply to comment #35)
> > This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for 6
> > months. Is this still an issue in current (1.3.16 or newer) wine?
>
> I finally got around to trying this again.  Just installed wine 1.3.29, tried
> PGII again, and had same behavior as before: blank black map screen.  After
> copying the MAP directory off the CD and into the drive_c/panzer2 directory,
> the game works as expected.

As I recall it, the installer didn't copy the directory on Windows either so to
increase performance (and remove the need for having the CD in the drive) you
had to do it yourself. But if the directory was copied without removing the
read-only attribute on both directory and files, this behavior was also seen.

Maybe this should be marked as an original misfeature and just included in an
installation FAQ?

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--- Comment #38 from John Pietrzak  2011-10-03 11:29:34 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #37)
> As I recall it, the installer didn't copy the directory on Windows either so to
> increase performance (and remove the need for having the CD in the drive) you
> had to do it yourself. But if the directory was copied without removing the
> read-only attribute on both directory and files, this behavior was also seen.
>
> Maybe this should be marked as an original misfeature and just included in an
> installation FAQ?

Well, it's been forever since the last time I tried installing this game on a
Windows machine, so I may be losing my memory, but I don't recall ever having
this sort of problem back then.  (And the game does still hit the CD on Wine,
even after copying over the map files.)  Something odd must be going on
somewhere.

But yeah, I agree that it's a minor enough hurdle that pretty much any user
should be able to deal with it.  (I've already put a note in the Crossover
Tips&Tricks file for the game...)

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--- Comment #39 from Austin English  2013-11-13 16:52:08 CST ---
This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for 2 years.
Is this still an issue in current (1.7.6 or newer) wine? If so, please attach
the terminal output in 1.7.6 (see http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log).

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--- Comment #40 from Jarkko K  ---
Sorry pinging, but could someone try this?

Someone said that the demo isn't affected.

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--- Comment #41 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
Last response is over 3 years old, marking abandoned.
Feel free to reopen if you still have the problem with current Wine 1.7.36 (or
newer).

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Closing.