http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14394
Summary: tf2 crashes and locks at random Product: Wine Version: 1.1.0 Platform: PC-x86-64 OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs@winehq.org ReportedBy: johnmichael.fischer@gmail.com
Created an attachment (id=14708) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=14708) tf2-dump
After fighting with this issue since Wine .9.59 I finally was able to run TF2 in a terminal and get the output. Issue has occured across all NVIDIA-drivers since then and has also occured across all wine versions since then. Previous to this TF2 ran smoothly at high detail rates.
Gefore 8600 GTS.
Note: I have the chattr -R +S enabled for steamapps/myusername@myemailaddress.com as it is required to get into the game. Disabling it as soon as the game loads has no effect.
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John-Michael Fischer johnmichael.fischer@gmail.com changed:
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Vitaliy Margolen vitaliy@kievinfo.com changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2009-01-21 11:01:35 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.13 or newer) wine?
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--- Comment #2 from John-Michael Fischer johnmichael.fischer@gmail.com 2009-01-22 13:44:02 --- (In reply to comment #1)
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.13 or newer) wine?
I will update this ticket in the next week with current information.
Thank you JM
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--- Comment #3 from Daniel Devine ddevnet@gmail.com 2009-02-13 07:35:30 --- This is happening in 1.1.14.
I am using a Nvidia 9600GT OC - (AMD 5200+,4GB 800MHz RAM, MSI K9N SLI-V2 Mobo) on Fedora 10 (i386) - KDE 4.2 (with and without compositing). The Nvidia driver is 180.29 and it also happens on 180.27 and 180.25.
I compiled Wine from source and have also tried the latest Git (wine-1.1.14-433-g0cc91ab)
There seems to be no error output when the console (when launched form the console) - though I will inspect the debug channels when I get time.
It would be hard to regression test this because TF2 has had various issues that made it crash for a year now :(.
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--- Comment #4 from Alex Haan armeagle@hetnet.nl 2009-02-21 10:17:35 --- Hmm, I used to be able to play TF2 just fine a bit over a month ago. That was with a 1.12 version of Wine (probably GIT).
Recently I tried this other mod, Eternal-Silence, and that just 'suddenly' crashed at total random moments. Sometimes during launch, sometimes the moment I entered/joined the 'game', and one time I could play for a few minutes. The system out of that showed several memory errors though.
So I recompiled from GIT (wine-1.1.15-122-ge968f09), but the same was still happening. I didn't try TF2 till just today. With the same GIT build it also crashed, randomly. I don't seem to get clear errors on system out though But for both it crashes consistently when I try to open the game options (if I get there). I then uninstalled the GIT build and installed the Fedora10 packaged wine (1.1.14). There the game even does less.
I'll attach the wine steam.exe &> ..log files and the mdmp from the last time it crashed (with the mentioned wine GIT build).
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--- Comment #5 from Alex Haan armeagle@hetnet.nl 2009-02-21 10:18:50 --- Created an attachment (id=19590) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19590) wine steam.exe &> ..
No memory dump
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--- Comment #6 from Alex Haan armeagle@hetnet.nl 2009-02-21 10:20:23 --- Created an attachment (id=19591) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19591) wine steam.exe &> ..
got a mdmp out of this
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--- Comment #7 from Alex Haan armeagle@hetnet.nl 2009-02-21 10:21:04 --- Created an attachment (id=19592) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19592) wine steam.exe &> ..
memory dump of the 1.15 GIT build, starting TF2 trough Steam
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--- Comment #8 from mursusoft@gmail.com 2009-07-30 08:07:27 --- Still happens with 1.1.26 randomly after a 5-15 minutes of gaming. It locks up the whole system and computer must be rebooted.
Fedora 10 x86-64 Wine 1.1.26git Catalyst 9.7 Radeon 4850
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--- Comment #9 from Michael Abbott michael@araneidae.co.uk 2009-09-19 02:37:36 --- (In reply to comment #8)
Still happens with 1.1.26 randomly after a 5-15 minutes of gaming. It locks up the whole system and computer must be rebooted.
Fedora 10 x86-64 Wine 1.1.26git Catalyst 9.7 Radeon 4850
How much RAM have you got on your system? I was having problems with TF2 completely unplayable for ages, but when I increased my machine's memory from 1GB to 2.5GB all the problems magically went away! TF2 is a real memory hog.
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--- Comment #10 from mursusoft@gmail.com 2009-09-26 12:20:43 --- (In reply to comment #9)
(In reply to comment #8)
Still happens with 1.1.26 randomly after a 5-15 minutes of gaming. It locks up the whole system and computer must be rebooted.
Fedora 10 x86-64 Wine 1.1.26git Catalyst 9.7 Radeon 4850
How much RAM have you got on your system? I was having problems with TF2 completely unplayable for ages, but when I increased my machine's memory from 1GB to 2.5GB all the problems magically went away! TF2 is a real memory hog.
I have 2GB of ram. Interesting could this be the issue maybe if I had 3GB or 4GB this wouldn't happen. Could someone test this? First with 2> and then 2< jut to see if it still locks up with more than 2GB or if it "cures" it.
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--- Comment #11 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2009-10-30 04:00:37 --- I also have this bug. Turn ingame steam off is required for me to start any Source game, chattr is required for me to start a map in TF2. -dxlevel 81, -nosound, and -novid have zero effect.
The game runs for about 5 minutes then locks up with 100% (out of 200%) cpu usage, there is nothing interesting in the log. I am on Debian Sid and I use fglrx 9.10 on my Radeon 4850. I do not use PulseAudio.
I can complete the Portal demo as well as the Half Life 2 demo (I only own TF2), so whatever the bug is, its unique to TF2 (of the three, at least).
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--- Comment #12 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2009-11-09 05:52:18 --- Using fglrx's Option "UseFastTLS" "2" makes TF2 crash faster. Where I used to get a couple minutes out of it, I'm not even making it to a minute.
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--- Comment #13 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2009-11-09 06:58:47 --- Setting VideoMemorySize above or below what I have does not effect the bug.
Setting UseGLSL to off causes the bug to appear earlier.
Setting Multisampling causes crash on vid start (was expected)
Setting OffscreenRenderingMode to pbuffer causes the bug to appear earlier and also have transparent garbage (looks like lighting related rendering), and setting to backbuffer disables lots of effects and does not effect the bug.
Turning Catalyst AI off, standard, or advanced does not effect the bug (likely, fglrx has no optimizations for HL2 or Wine).
Any settings in options, including enabling vsync, do not effect the bug. -dxlevel of everything from 80 to 95 do not effect the bug. Resolution does not effect the bug.
Bug #15162 seems to be a duplicate of this bug.
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Robbie robbiethe1st@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #14 from Robbie robbiethe1st@gmail.com 2010-04-13 04:24:10 --- *** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
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William J May may.11b@runbox.com changed:
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--- Comment #15 from William J May may.11b@runbox.com 2010-04-24 03:23:18 --- I saw the title and thought it was only fglrx problem only to see it started by an nvidia user....
I have this problem using clean Wine 1.1.42 32-bit, Catalyst 10.2. Mandriva 2010 kernel 2.6.31.6-mdv AMD 2.8Ghz, 4Gb RAM, ATI HD2600XT 256Mb
*stab in the dark* Doesn't TF2 use same graphics engine as HL2? What separates the two if HL2 runs just fine?
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--- Comment #16 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2010-04-24 04:51:20 --- It may actually effect HL2 as well, but I'm not entirely sure. Playing HL2 requires about two hours for it to lock up, and it may not be the same issue at all.
If it is the same bug, then TF2 is triggering it in ten minutes where HL2 takes over two hours. Portal seems to take more than that.
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--- Comment #17 from edward savage epssyis@gmail.com 2010-05-03 04:40:20 --- This bug only seems to affect ATI users. Is it still a problem?
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--- Comment #18 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2010-05-03 04:48:08 --- As far as I know, it is still a problem.
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--- Comment #19 from zilchonum zilchonum@gmail.com 2010-05-15 21:56:48 --- I've also experienced this bug several times in tf2 and looking at the feedback from GKrellM I can confirm that it is probably a memory issue. I think that perhaps wine has issues with paging memory (or maybe the page file isn't supported in wine, I don't know)?
I have also seen a similar effect in Call of Duty 4, where I could play any one level at a time but the game would hopelessly freeze upon loading another level without first going back to the level select menu. So this bug is not specific to steam games. However the CoD symptoms weren't as severe as tf2, I could still access the system monitor and kill the problematic processes, but when tf2 crashes none of the gnome hotkeys (ie alt-tab) work, and neither does the ctrl-alt-backspace combo for X.
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--- Comment #20 from Clément Danjou clement.danjou@vinaigredemiel.com 2010-05-29 19:28:47 --- I updated my motherboard BIOS (P45 NEO3 FR), because I needed VT-x support. I had no problem with TF2, now it crashes randomly ! :( No problem on L4D2 or Counter-Strike:Source, just TF2... Maybe an option activated in BIOS ? Any issue with VT-x activated ? I tried to reinstall steam and TF2, nothings change.
Q9550 @ 3,7Ghz MSI P45 NEO3 FR 8Go DDR2 MSI GeForce GTX275 OC 2x160Go in raid0 (system + TF2) 2x1To in raid1 Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64bits wine 1.2rc1/1.44 (same)
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--- Comment #21 from Clément Danjou clement.danjou@vinaigredemiel.com 2010-05-31 16:38:45 --- Forget my previous message. Overclocking issue, not wine related.
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--- Comment #22 from William J May may.11b@runbox.com 2010-07-18 12:45:33 --- Still an issue in 1.2-rc7. I am want to say it is fglrx because of the hardlock I get. But again, why have some Nvidia users reported it?
-Overclocking maybe, but my BIOS settings are fairly conservative. -Video memory allocation? Something both drivers lack??? -I just deduced it's not anything overheating.
I know TF2 is resource-heavy, but I had no problems under Windows except at the highest settings.
My System: AMD 2.8Ghz dual-core 4Gb DDR2 RAM @ 800Mhz Sapphire HD2600 XT 256Mb GDDR3
Mandriva 2010 32-bit Wine 1.2-rc7 Catalyst 10.6 (fglrx)
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--- Comment #23 from William J May may.11b@runbox.com 2010-07-18 13:12:13 --- Maybe everyone can specify what kind of crash they're experiencing:
CTD (Crash to Desktop, TF2 closes/Wine closes, OS unaffected)
X Server crash (can still switch terminals, use keyboard to Alt+F2 or Ctrl+Alt+F2)
hardlock (requires reset button) <- That's me.
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--- Comment #24 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2010-07-18 14:20:36 --- CTD. Very rarely do I get a hardlock (where alt-sysreq s u b comes in handy), and I suspect thats a fglrx bug, not a tf2 or wine bug.
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--- Comment #25 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2010-08-01 07:30:46 --- I have recently tested Cat 10.7 and Wine 1.2. Portal and TF2 still randomly crash, graphics settings and resolution still have no effect on the bug, however it seems to take longer now.
On the flip side, the new Steam client seems to be less pathological than before.
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--- Comment #26 from iekanat@gmail.com 2010-08-14 06:45:48 --- I can confirm that in my system TF2 locks down the system. It becomes totally non-responsive and I have to powerdown the machine each time.
My system Specs: Athlon XP 5600+ 4 GBs of RAM (This rules out the memory issues I guess) ATI HD 4850 1GB
Software Specs: Ubuntu 10.04 Wine 1.1.44
I am using the proprietary graphics driver that came with Ubuntu 10.04
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--- Comment #27 from Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com 2010-08-14 08:52:22 --- If you're getting hard locks of the whole system, where the mouse freezes too, then it's a system problem, not a wine problem; wine is just how you trigger it. Has anybody tried reporting this to the driver/graphics card vendor?
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--- Comment #28 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2010-08-14 09:28:48 --- For me, Source games merely segfault/otherwise exit. Extremely rarely does X crash or the machine lockup altogether, and yes, I agree, those are driver bugs.
Now, something I have noticed, if I run X for, say, a month or two X eventually locks up when running a GL app. Wine+Source seems to trigger this in days (if I repeatedly start the Source game back up). This is a bug, but I wonder if Wine is accidentally triggering it more than it should.
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--- Comment #29 from Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com 2010-08-14 09:35:39 --- If you can give a reproducible recipe for triggering the crash with the latest OS and drivers, I suspect the driver vendor would love to hear about it.
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--- Comment #30 from William J May may.11b@runbox.com 2010-08-15 02:06:58 --- I left a feedback survey at support.amd.com about my hardlock. But seeing as I'm using Mandriva (and not the supported SuSE, Ubuntu, Redhat) I doubt they'll look into it.
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--- Comment #31 from Xpander xpander0@gmail.com 2011-09-17 11:38:56 CDT --- im in same boat
about 10 min gameplay and hardlock. mouse moves bot nothing responds, not even alt+ctrl+f1.
catalyst 11.8 wine 1.3.28
seems driver problem idd. knowing ati and their "good" linux support
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--- Comment #32 from Glenn sir.gimpy@gmail.com 2011-12-03 19:12:32 CST --- I am also experiencing this bug. I'm running 64-bit Arch Linux with:
Catalyst 11.11 Wine 1.3.33 kernel 3.1.4
Is there anything I can submit here or elsewhere to help get this noticed by the right people?
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--- Comment #33 from William J May may.11b@runbox.com 2011-12-04 12:11:57 CST --- If you're getting hardlocks with latest AMD drivers: http://www.amd.com/us/LinuxCrewSurvey Is your best bet.
This doesn't seem to be helping much, yet: https://www.linux.com/news/hardware/desktops/445331-amd-already-adds-on-two-...
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--- Comment #34 from Henri Verbeet hverbeet@gmail.com 2011-12-04 12:15:53 CST --- (In reply to comment #33)
This doesn't seem to be helping much, yet: https://www.linux.com/news/hardware/desktops/445331-amd-already-adds-on-two-...
It does if you actually use the free driver.
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--- Comment #35 from William J May may.11b@runbox.com 2011-12-05 13:55:32 CST --- So Henri's point was that if you're using ATI/AMD cards, try the open-source driver. It's much easier for developers to fix the problem (whether in Wine or the driver).
I have had to use fglrx for my HD2600 to play games, and it hardlocks. So it is no doubt a driver issue: Wine developers can do very little, if anything about it.
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--- Comment #36 from Patrick McFarland diablod3@gmail.com 2011-12-06 01:01:25 CST --- I am a developer if a popular FOSS OpenCL app. Until the OpenCL impl for Mesa/Gallium is finished enough to run my app, I am unable to switch.
The suggestion of switching away from fglrx is not currently viable, although I welcome the day that I can.
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--- Comment #37 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2013-12-05 16:33:57 CST --- (In reply to comment #36)
I am a developer if a popular FOSS OpenCL app. Until the OpenCL impl for Mesa/Gallium is finished enough to run my app, I am unable to switch.
The suggestion of switching away from fglrx is not currently viable, although I welcome the day that I can.
Nowadays r600g is usually a better option than fglrx on supported cards. Is this still an issue in 1.7.7 (or newer) wine and recent drivers?
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--- Comment #38 from Jarkko K jarkko_korpi@hotmail.com --- How valid this thread is now?
TF2 has own linux version now, wine has grown multiple versions since report, drivers have improved too.
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--- Comment #39 from Anastasius Focht focht@gmx.net --- Hello folks,
due to its age, this bug accumulated different issues over time. I can't reproduce this, resolving 'fixed'.
$ wine --version wine-1.7.16-134-g0ff879b
Regards
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--- Comment #40 from Alexandre Julliard julliard@winehq.org --- Closing bugs fixed in 1.7.17.
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