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6 May 2020 6 May '20

5:51 p.m.

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49112

Bug ID: 49112 Summary: ELWAVE doesn't start - detects Wine as VM Product: Wine Version: 5.2 Hardware: x86 OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: -unknown Assignee: wine-bugs@winehq.org Reporter: dark.shadow4@web.de Distribution: ---

The program doesn't start, since it refuses to work in a VM but detects Wine as such.

Seems to work on older CPUs though, so maybe that's a clue.

Reported in the forums: https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33826

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8 May 8 May

10:42 p.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] ELWAVE doesn't start - detects Wine as VM

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--- Comment #1 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- Created attachment 67108 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=67108 +relay logs from old and new system

Adding logs from the forum.

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11:14 p.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] ELWAVE doesn't start - detects Wine as VM

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--- Comment #2 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- Might be related to bug 48789, maybe the same protection...

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9 May 9 May

3:18 p.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] ELWAVE doesn't start - detects Wine as VM

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--- Comment #3 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- *** Bug 48789 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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3:19 p.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] Multiple programs protected by Themida detect Wine as VM (ELWAVE, Freestyle 2: Street Basketball)

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Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de changed:

--- Comment #4 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- Found an old demo version of Themida which can be used to reproduce the problem.

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3:30 p.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] Multiple programs protected by Themida detect Wine as VM (ELWAVE, Freestyle 2: Street Basketball)

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Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de changed:

--- Comment #5 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- Sorry, never mind... The demo doesn't start on Wine, and protected executables from a VM can't be copied to a different machine...

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3:47 p.m.

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--- Comment #6 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- I managed to get two working executables to test though: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ymiwu3q2zdoljpt/themida_test.zip

So if someone better than me wants to debug this Anti-VM nonsense, feel free to do so.

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11 May 11 May

4:44 a.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] Multiple programs protected by Themida detect Wine as VM (ELWAVE, Freestyle 2: Street Basketball)

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Andrew Wesie awesie@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Andrew Wesie awesie@gmail.com --- You might want to try disabling UMIP (add clearcpuid=514 kernel parameter) and see if that helps.

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4 p.m.

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--- Comment #8 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- That indeed helps. I'm guessing we'd need to catch those instructions and handle them so the program works with UMIP enabled?

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7 Jan 7 Jan

6:16 a.m.

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--- Comment #9 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- Upgraded to a "Ryzen 7 3800X 8" now, and I can't reproduce the issue anymore. Not sure if that CPU supports UMIP...

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8 Jan 8 Jan

11:57 p.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] Multiple programs protected by Themida detect Wine as VM (ELWAVE, Freestyle 2: Street Basketball)

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--- Comment #10 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- Can someone with a modern Intel CPU try to replicate this? As noted, my AMD CPU doesn't have that issue.

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9 Jan 9 Jan

12:38 a.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] Multiple programs protected by Themida detect Wine as VM (ELWAVE, Freestyle 2: Street Basketball)

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--- Comment #11 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- I think this got fixed by https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/b91e7089ae70d2f7c81a4456e5b78fef498...

That would explain why I thought my CPU wasn't affected. I can run the "VM forbidden" exe properly, only with an older Linux kernel I get the error.

Can someone confirm?

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21 Feb 21 Feb

10:20 a.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] Multiple programs protected by Themida detect Wine as VM (ELWAVE, Freestyle 2: Street Basketball)

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Rafał Mikrut mikrutrafal@protonmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Rafał Mikrut mikrutrafal@protonmail.com --- With provided examples I see twice OK, so looks that this is fixed

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6:13 p.m.

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Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de changed:

--- Comment #13 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- Marking NOTOUTBUG then.

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23 Apr 23 Apr

11:52 p.m.

New subject: [Bug 49112] Multiple programs protected by Themida detect Wine as VM (ELWAVE, Freestyle 2: Street Basketball)

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--- Comment #14 from Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de --- *** Bug 49111 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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