[Bug 30517] New: MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don't have option to select activity

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30517

Bug #: 30517
           Summary: MS Office 2007 applications are always on all
                    activities in KDE, they don't have option to select
                    activity
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.5.2
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
    Classification: Unclassified

KDE 4 has a feature set called activities. Activities are different from
virtual desktops, as they provide separate workspaces for separate workflows.
Additionally the possibility for virtual desktops are also present.

MS Office 2007 applications (Word, Excel, Powerpoint tested) somehow break this
feature, and they always appear on all activities, whereas they honor the
virtual desktops. Normally all windows have the option to select which virtual
desktop and which activity they should appear on, but MSO 2007 apps lack the
setting for choosing the activity because of the unusual titlebar*. This
wouldn't be a serious problem, if they wouldn't appear on all activities by
default. Normal apps (even windows apps) appear on the activity they are
started from by default.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Setup KDE to have at least 2 activities.
2. Start e.g. Word2007 on one activity, and also start some other apps (windows
or native Linux, normally doesn't matter)
3. Change activity. Now the second app is not visible, because it remained in
activity1, but Word 2007 is still visible.
4. Go back to activity1.

* A related (but not same) bug has been filed to KDE Bugtracking system:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298805

[Bug 30517] MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don't have option to select activity

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30517

Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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           Severity|normal                      |trivial

[Bug 30517] MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don't have option to select activity

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--- Comment #1 from Gábor Katona  2012-04-25 08:10:21 CDT ---
Sorry for the incorrect "importance" setting.

Regarding importance I would call it minor, because it is a "minor loss of
functionality", even if the functionality is a KDE one.

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Alexandre Julliard  changed:

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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |UPSTREAM

--- Comment #2 from Alexandre Julliard  2012-04-25 08:11:23 CDT ---
That's a KDE issue, Wine knows nothing about activities.

[Bug 30517] MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don't have option to select activity

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30517

--- Comment #3 from Gábor Katona  2012-04-25 08:13:41 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> That's a KDE issue, Wine knows nothing about activities.

I don't agree totally, because other apps started using wine honor activities.
Only MS Office 2007 apps not (2010 not tested). Also native apps work as
expected.

Based on this I think this is related at least partially to wine. I would
suggest to reopen the bug.

[Bug 30517] MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don't have option to select activity

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30517

--- Comment #4 from Alexandre Julliard  2012-04-25 08:17:59 CDT ---
The windows are different since they don't have standard decorations. That
doesn't make it a Wine bug, KDE should support all window styles.

[Bug 30517] MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don't have option to select activity

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--- Comment #5 from Gábor Katona  2012-04-25 08:22:00 CDT ---
I think the wine side of the bug is, that the app appears on all activities.
Other MSWindows apps appear only on the activity they are started from. Somehow
the office2007 window doesn't honor the setting which other apps (Windows apps)
accept.

I think it is a wine problem. I wouldn't think KDE tries to set different
things for Office apps.

[Bug 30517] MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don't have option to select activity

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30517

--- Comment #6 from Austin English  2012-04-25 12:28:23 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> I think the wine side of the bug is, that the app appears on all activities.
> Other MSWindows apps appear only on the activity they are started from. Somehow
> the office2007 window doesn't honor the setting which other apps (Windows apps)
> accept.
>
> I think it is a wine problem. I wouldn't think KDE tries to set different
> things for Office apps.

That's because KDE isn't accepting non-standard decorations (Office uses custom
decorations). You'll likely have similar behavior from other custom decorated
applications, e.g., Steam.

[Bug 30517] MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don 't have option to select activity

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Rosanne DiMesio  changed:

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           See Also|                            |https://bugs.kde.org/show_b
                   |                            |ug.cgi?id=274931

[Bug 30517] MS Office 2007 applications are always on all activities in KDE, they don 't have option to select activity

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--- Comment #7 from Rosanne DiMesio  ---
The KDE bug, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274931, is still open, though
mostly fixed. The issue keeping it open appears to be disagreement over the
default behavior, which is still to appear on all activities, but it is now
possible to confine undecorated windows (e.g., Office apps running in Wine) to
one activity.

The procedure:

1. Start the Office app you want to limit to one activity.
2. Press Alt-F3; this will bring up the window management menu.
3. Select More Actions => Special Application Settings
4. On the Size and Position tab: 
   --check "Activity" 
   --select "Apply Initially" from the dropdown list
   --select which activity you want it to start in from the other dropdown list
5. Click OK.

You have to close and restart the Office app for the change to take effect, and
since it's a per-application setting, you have to repeat the steps for each
Office app you want to limit to one activity.

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Austin English  changed:

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             Status|RESOLVED                    |CLOSED

--- Comment #8 from Austin English  ---
Closing.

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Austin English  changed:

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             Status|CLOSED                      |RESOLVED

--- Comment #9 from Austin English  ---
This was inadvertently caught up in my unclosed bugs filter. NOTOURBUG should
only be closed when fixed upstream.

Setting back to RESOLVED NOTOURBUG.

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