[Bug 24466] New: Sid Meier's Pirates! frequent hiccups, temporary lock-ups

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24466

Summary: Sid Meier's Pirates! frequent hiccups, temporary
                    lock-ups
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.3.3
          Platform: x86
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

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Sid Meier's Pirates! (patched to the latest 1.0.2 version) performs badly in
Wine. This issue is described in several test results on the Appdb page of the
game, too.
I can observe the following symptoms:
- After the intro video played, it takes almost 2 minutes to get into the main
menu (without noticeable hdd activity).
- When I get into the game and visit any places in the port (Governor,
Merchant, Tavern etc.) it usually takes the game 15-20 seconds to display the
next screen (although music plays continuously).
- While sailing, the game frequently "freezes" for 2-3 seconds without no
apparent reasons.

When those hiccups occur all animations freeze on the current screen until the
next screen is loaded but music plays fluently.
Reducing the screen resolution, graphical details or disable audio doesn't
help.

I remember playing this game several years ago in a native Win XP without this
issues.

No demo available.

Fedora 13 x86
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200+
3 GB Ram
Kernel 2.6.34.6
Nvidia 7600 GT / driver 256.53

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Stephen E. Baker  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Stephen E. Baker  2010-11-25 22:06:52 CST ---
I can confirm this happens for me as well on very different system specs.

Arch Linux (32 bit)
Core 2 Duo T7400
Radeon X1400 / mesa 7.9 r300g
2 Gb Ram
Kernel 2.6.36.1

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Stephen E. Baker  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Stephen E. Baker  2010-11-25 22:14:19 CST ---
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

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--- Comment #3 from Daniel Harvison  2011-06-09 12:31:15 CDT ---
I found that this bug is able to be worked around by using taskset. (ie,
taskset 01 "wine program.exe" seems to work quite well). So you could set up a
script with the following:

cd "game install dir"
taskset 01 wine program.exe

I use a wine explorer desktop in this case, so "wine explorer
/desktop=name,1024x768 program.exe" will launch the game in a window of the
size specified.

that would about do it, works for me. Using wine 1.3.21 under Ubuntu 11.04 with
an nvidia 260.

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--- Comment #4 from GyB  2011-06-09 13:58:46 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> I found that this bug is able to be worked around by using taskset. (ie,
> taskset 01 "wine program.exe" seems to work quite well).

Indeed, disabling one of the cpu cores (or using taskset) improves the
situation considerably: during sailing almost all of those hiccups have gone;
loading times are also much shorter between scenes.
Certain minigames (e.g. sword fighting) still behave erratically (there are
several seconds pause during gameplay).

wine-1.3.21-310-g7cd20a4

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--- Comment #5 from [e-mail] 2013-06-11 12:39:39 CDT ---
I am also experiencing some difficulties. The previously mentioned performance
issues I have not been having but I am having 2 problems. 
1. The mouse cursor frequently disappears

2. People in the game do not look correct. This pretty much makes the game
unplayable. You are unable to sword fight because the only thing that is
correct is the sword. The rest of the person is just an array of different
shapes. Also dancing is not possible due to the same reason sword fighting is
not playable.

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--- Comment #6 from GyB  2013-06-14 09:51:38 CDT ---
.(In reply to comment #5)
> I am also experiencing some difficulties. The previously mentioned performance
> issues I have not been having but I am having 2 problems.
> -
>
> The mouse cursor frequently disappears
> -
>
> People in the game do not look correct. This pretty much makes the game
>
> unplayable. You are unable to sword fight because the only thing that is
> correct is the sword. The rest of the person is just an array of different
> shapes. Also dancing is not possible due to the same reason sword fighting is
> not playable.

Please file a new bug report for the problems you have (disappearing mouse
cursor and incorrect rendering of objects). Also please specify what video
card/drivers you have installed. I don't have such problems with Nvidia binary
drivers 319.23.

The originally reported problem is still present for me, tested with
wine-1.6-rc1-58-g2fd3ec7. If I force the game to run only on 1 CPU core, the
slowdowns are significantly reduced. I don't have Windows installed, so can't
tell how the game behaves under native Windows on my dual-core system.

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--- Comment #7 from Austin English  ---
This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for over a
year. Is this still an issue in current (1.7.37 or newer) wine? If so, please
attach the terminal output in 1.7.37 (see http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log).

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Béla Gyebrószki  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
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Still present in 1.7.37

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Mike Ellery  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Béla Gyebrószki from comment #8)
> Created attachment 50840 [details]
> terminal output
>
> Still present in 1.7.37

This is from appdb.

"I play with Sabayon X64 15.08,Nvidia GTX650 TI Boost propretary drivers, 16Gb
Ram, 1 TB hdd; sometimes the screen freezes for 1-3 seconds during fights or
dancing, nothing unacceptable, but it's annoying"

1.7.53.

So according to this message there has been no change between 1.7.37-1.7.53.

There is no recent appdb test.

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--- Comment #10 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
The problem is still present for me in Wine 3.12 and in Wine-Staging, too.

The game loads to the main menu in roughly 20 seconds. When entering a colony
or town and switching between locations (merchant, tavern) the game freezes
temporarily for 5-10 seconds. Entering a mini-game also has a noticeable pause.
Short, but frequent pauses are present while sailing on the map.

A Wine patched with the esync patchset gives a much smoother gameplay: the game
loads to the menu in less than 8 seconds, those frequent and annoying freezes
during gameplay are non-existent. For example mini-games are loaded almost
instantly.
https://github.com/zfigura/wine/tree/esync

FWIW, I have the following specs:
AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600+
8 GB RAM
Nvidia 730 GT, drivers 396.24.10
Kernel 4.17.6

This was tested with the GOG.com version of the game.

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--- Comment #11 from joaopa  ---
Does the bug still occur with wine-7.0-rc3?

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--- Comment #12 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
(In reply to joaopa from comment #11)
> Does the bug still occur with wine-7.0-rc3?

I replaced my old PC with a newer one a while ago.
AMD 64 X2 -> Ryzen 5 5600X +lots of RAM so regression testing is a breeze now
:)

I can't reproduce the problem since then. The game runs fine, without
noticeable hiccups or stuttering.
To be sure, I compiled an old Wine 3.12, Kernel 4.14 and downgraded to Nvidia
396, but the problem didn't occur.
It seems a sufficiently powerful cpu can overcome the problem.

wine-7.0-rc3-8-g240f2f39632

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--- Comment #13 from joaopa  ---
If you can not test the bug anymore, you should close this bug ABANDONED.

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--- Comment #14 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
(In reply to joaopa from comment #13)
> If you can not test the bug anymore, you should close this bug ABANDONED.

There are others CC'd to this bug report. Maybe someone still can reproduce the
problem.

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--- Comment #15 from Stephen E. Baker  ---
I can confirm that this is still an issue in wine 9.5

dxvk seems to help most but not all of the time; possibly all the time after
the cache is populated.