https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47087
Bug ID: 47087 Summary: Remove me as a maintainer for all applications on appdb Product: WineHQ Apps Database Version: unspecified Hardware: x86 OS: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: appdb-unknown Assignee: wine-bugs@winehq.org Reporter: aros@gmx.com Distribution: ---
I've been maintaining close to ten applications in AppDB for over five years and now after failing to accept a *single submission* for 3DMark for *just* *two weeks* because I was on vacation my request to restore maintainership of 3DMark has been rejected:
Your application to be the maintainer of was rejected. Your record as a maintainer of other apps *is poor*. Please try to improve the entries you already maintain, or remove yourself as maintainer from apps you no longer use, before taking on more responsibility. See: http://wiki.winehq.org/AppDB_Test_Results_Guidelines%C3%82
You know what, please remove me as a maintainer for all other applications as well. This is disgusting and I'm just appalled. You seriously lack manpower and you do not allow people any sort of leeway.
This could have been a request to revisit your automatic replies and policies in regard to AppDB maintainership approval but I'm already seriously ill and just trying to actually survive, so I'm not in a mood of fighting against bureaucracy, swift misjudgement or itch.
If whoever rejected my request wants to apologize, then we may forget this accident as a nuisance and I can keep on being a maintainer in AppDB.
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Fabian Maurer dark.shadow4@web.de changed:
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Robert Walker bob.mt.wya@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Robert Walker bob.mt.wya@gmail.com --- (In reply to Artem S. Tashkinov from comment #0)
If whoever rejected my request wants to apologize, then we may forget this accident as a nuisance and I can keep on being a maintainer in AppDB.
It was I who rejected the Maintainer reinstatement (noting in my defence that I've never personally removed any inactive Maintainers on AppDB!)
I must apologise that you've got to go to these length to contact Admin's on the site (it's a really rubbish setup - patches for the AppDB site are very welcome!)
I don't think we (Admin's) can re-add an application Maintainership to a standard AppDB user. So if you could kindly resubmit the request and link to this bug report (in the body) then we can re-add your maintainership.
I would kindly request, in return, that you start (slowly!) to bump some of your maintained applications to more up-to-date Wine versions. It is AppDB policy that Maintainers are expected to keep test submissions reasonably up-to-date with recent(ish) Wine release... In 2019 it's not really acceptable to maintain applications that have no tests, for _any_ version of the application, that are used a Wine version more recent than 1.x ... If you could therefore concentrate on getting these applications more up-to-date - that would be great! :-)
Thanks and sorry for the harsh policy enforcement on my part! Robert
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--- Comment #2 from Ken Sharp imwellcushtymelike@gmail.com --- (In reply to Robert Walker from comment #1)
It is AppDB policy that Maintainers are expected to keep test submissions reasonably up-to-date with recent(ish) Wine release... In 2019 it's not really acceptable to maintain applications that have no tests, for _any_ version of the application, that are used a Wine version more recent than 1.x
For every maintainer we lose, an admin has to process those requests. This policy needs to be reconsidered. Inactive or rarely-used applications are inevitable. It's not a sign of being a bad maintainer.
(In reply to Artem S. Tashkinov from comment #0)
after failing to accept a *single submission* for 3DMark for *just* *two weeks* because I was on vacation my request to restore maintainership
Once? After two weeks? That is truly insane and far too harsh. I'd understand if it was all the time but it doesn't sound like it happened more than once.
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Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net changed:
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--- Comment #3 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net --- As all of you know, the system automatically removes any maintainer who fails to process submissions within a week. Maintainers who are removed can reapply for reinstatement. Whether to accept that application is at the discretion of the admin processing it, and considering the maintainer's overall record in making that decision is perfectly valid.
Here is what Artem's record shows: 3DMark - most recent test report is for 2.10 Miranda - most recent test report is for 1.3.1 FAR Manager - most recent test report for 2.3 μTorrent - most recent test report is for 1.9.5 LibreOffice - most recent test report is for 1.5.29 Skype - most recent test report is for 2.1 WinSCP - most recent test report is for 3.5 Miranda NG - most recent test report is for 1.7.24 Irfanview - most recent test report is for 3.4 (and FYI, it was submitted by me)
As stated on https://wiki.winehq.org/AppDB_Maintainer_Guidelines, maintainers are expected to "Periodically submit your own test reports for the versions you maintain." We are pretty generous in interpreting that; for a supermaintainer, one test report for at least one version of the application per year should be sufficient. Artem clearly has not done anywhere near that, and IMO, rejecting his application for reinstatement was warranted.
Removing maintainers who are not doing their jobs does not burden the admins in any way.
Artem, you've gotten your apology from Rob; it's up to you whether you want to remain a maintainer. You can remove yourself from any entry you no longer wish to maintain by clicking the "Remove yourself as a maintainer" link on the relevant page(s).
This is not a bug.
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Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net changed:
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--- Comment #4 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net --- Closing.
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