[Bug 49036] New: Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

Bug ID: 49036
           Summary: Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST
                    instruments in LMMS
           Product: Wine
           Version: 5.7
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
      Distribution: ---

System is Debian 10 with Staging 5.7.
Recent updates to WINE through Debian repos have rendered virtual instrument
plugins unable to load in LMMS 1.2.1 audio workstation. 
LMMS is an Appimage so I don't have terminal output to show.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

Olivier F. R. Dierick  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Olivier F. R. Dierick  ---
Hello,

WineHQ.org doesn't provide support for appimages.

Yet, someone might want to try to reproduce the issue with the standard windows
version of the application:
http://lmms.io/download#windows

Regards.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #2 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Olivier F. R. Dierick from comment #1)
> Hello,
>
> WineHQ.org doesn't provide support for appimages.
>
> Yet, someone might want to try to reproduce the issue with the standard
> windows version of the application:
> http://lmms.io/download#windows
>
> Regards.

Issue is not LMMS itself; VST plugins were working until I ran updates from
Debian last night, which pushed out updates to winehq-staging, wine-staging,
wine-staging-64, and wine-staging-i386:i386. These 4 packages were the only
updates that were pushed out yesterday in Debian Stable that were available for
my system.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

Zebediah Figura  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Zebediah Figura  ---
Is this bug present in upstream (non-Staging) Wine?

(Please see https://wiki.winehq.org/Download if your distribution does not
provide upstream Wine packages.)

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #4 from Olivier F. R. Dierick  ---
(In reply to mr.lumberg from comment #2)
> Issue is not LMMS itself; VST plugins were working until I ran updates from
> Debian last night, which pushed out updates to winehq-staging, wine-staging,
> wine-staging-64, and wine-staging-i386:i386. These 4 packages were the only
> updates that were pushed out yesterday in Debian Stable that were available
> for my system.

Hello,

Yes, I understand that the issue is with the VST plugins loaded externally by
the appimage.

I don't know how appimage works but you said that you can't get a terminal
output out of the appimage.

I suppose that the appimage is self-contained and can't be modified, so you
can't tell it to produce a terminal output.

Unless we can reproduce the issue without the appimage, the bug is invalid and
you'll have to ask the appimage maintainers for support.

Using the Windows version of LMMS directly will allow to confirm if the issue
is valid and get a terminal output for debugging.

Regards.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #5 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Olivier F. R. Dierick from comment #1)
> Hello,
>
> WineHQ.org doesn't provide support for appimages.
>
> Yet, someone might want to try to reproduce the issue with the standard
> windows version of the application:
> http://lmms.io/download#windows
>
> Regards.

Issue is not LMMS itself; VST plugins were working until I ran updates from
Debian last night, which pushed out updates to winehq-staging, wine-staging,
wine-staging-64, and wine-staging-i386:i386. These 4 packages were the only
updates that were pushed out yesterday in Debian Stable that were available for
my system. (In reply to Zebediah Figura from comment #3)
> Is this bug present in upstream (non-Staging) Wine?
>
> (Please see https://wiki.winehq.org/Download if your distribution does not
> provide upstream Wine packages.)

I can confirm that it's not; a laptop with WINE Stable installed runs these
plugins correctly. Feedback on the LMMS forum suggests similar.(In reply to
Zebediah Figura from comment #3)
> Is this bug present in upstream (non-Staging) Wine?
>
> (Please see https://wiki.winehq.org/Download if your distribution does not
> provide upstream Wine packages.)

I can confirm that it does not. A laptop of mine using Stable loads them
correctly, and feedback from the LMMS forum suggests same.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

Zebediah Figura  changed:

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            Product|Wine                        |Wine-staging
          Component|-unknown                    |-unknown

--- Comment #6 from Zebediah Figura  ---
Can the application be freely downloaded? Can you please provide instructions
to reproduce the problem?

Failing that, can you please provide terminal output?

Performing a regression test between staging and upstream, while
time-consuming, is a good way to help the bug get fixed quickly. See
https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine-Staging#Reporting_and_debugging_bugs_against_Staging
for details.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

Paul Gofman  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Paul Gofman  ---
(In reply to mr.lumberg from comment #5)
> I can confirm that it's not; a laptop with WINE Stable installed runs these
> plugins correctly. Feedback on the LMMS forum suggests similar.(In reply to
> Zebediah Figura from comment #3)
> > Is this bug present in upstream (non-Staging) Wine?
> >
> > (Please see https://wiki.winehq.org/Download if your distribution does not
> > provide upstream Wine packages.)
>
> I can confirm that it does not. A laptop of mine using Stable loads them
> correctly, and feedback from the LMMS forum suggests same.

You are mentioning Stable Wine version here, which is presumably 5.0. Does it
work with  Wine 5.7 development version?

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #8 from [e-mail] ---
Created attachment 67023
  --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=67023
Wine-Staging 5.7 error w/ LMMS/VST

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #9 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Olivier F. R. Dierick from comment #4)
> (In reply to mr.lumberg from comment #2)
> > Issue is not LMMS itself; VST plugins were working until I ran updates from
> > Debian last night, which pushed out updates to winehq-staging, wine-staging,
> > wine-staging-64, and wine-staging-i386:i386. These 4 packages were the only
> > updates that were pushed out yesterday in Debian Stable that were available
> > for my system.
>
> Hello,
>
> Yes, I understand that the issue is with the VST plugins loaded externally
> by the appimage.
>
> I don't know how appimage works but you said that you can't get a terminal
> output out of the appimage.
>
> I suppose that the appimage is self-contained and can't be modified, so you
> can't tell it to produce a terminal output.
>
> Unless we can reproduce the issue without the appimage, the bug is invalid
> and you'll have to ask the appimage maintainers for support.
>
> Using the Windows version of LMMS directly will allow to confirm if the
> issue is valid and get a terminal output for debugging.
>
> Regards.

I attempted to install LMMS 32-bit release for Windows, which was unsuccessful;
please refer to attachment for text of error.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #10 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Zebediah Figura from comment #6)
> Can the application be freely downloaded? Can you please provide
> instructions to reproduce the problem?
>
> Failing that, can you please provide terminal output?
>
> Performing a regression test between staging and upstream, while
> time-consuming, is a good way to help the bug get fixed quickly. See
> https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine-
> Staging#Reporting_and_debugging_bugs_against_Staging for details.

Yes, it's freely available at https://lmms.io/download#linux.
At the request of another I've attempted to install the Windows version using
WINE and attached the error output.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #11 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Paul Gofman from comment #7)
> (In reply to mr.lumberg from comment #5)
> > I can confirm that it's not; a laptop with WINE Stable installed runs these
> > plugins correctly. Feedback on the LMMS forum suggests similar.(In reply to
> > Zebediah Figura from comment #3)
> > > Is this bug present in upstream (non-Staging) Wine?
> > >
> > > (Please see https://wiki.winehq.org/Download if your distribution does not
> > > provide upstream Wine packages.)
> >
> > I can confirm that it does not. A laptop of mine using Stable loads them
> > correctly, and feedback from the LMMS forum suggests same.
>
> You are mentioning Stable Wine version here, which is presumably 5.0. Does
> it work with  Wine 5.7 development version?

I've not attempted to use Development to install yet. My desktop has Staging
installed, the Laptop has Stable.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #12 from Olivier F. R. Dierick  ---
(In reply to mr.lumberg from comment #9)
> I attempted to install LMMS 32-bit release for Windows, which was
> unsuccessful; please refer to attachment for text of error.

Hello,

--- quote from attachment ---
wineserver crashed, please enable coredumps (ulimit -c unlimited) and restart.
--- end quote ---

Looks like bug 49011.
This is a regression in wine-devel/wine-staging 5.7.
This may explain the issue with VST plugins too.

Please, downgrade wine-staging to 5.6 and retry.

Regards.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

--- Comment #13 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Olivier F. R. Dierick from comment #12)
> (In reply to mr.lumberg from comment #9)
> > I attempted to install LMMS 32-bit release for Windows, which was
> > unsuccessful; please refer to attachment for text of error.
>
> Hello,
>
> --- quote from attachment ---
> wineserver crashed, please enable coredumps (ulimit -c unlimited) and
> restart.
> --- end quote ---
>
> Looks like bug 49011.
> This is a regression in wine-devel/wine-staging 5.7.
> This may explain the issue with VST plugins too.
>
> Please, downgrade wine-staging to 5.6 and retry.
>
> Regards.

I purged 5.7 and reinstalled 5.6 from the cache about four hours ago, and I can
confirm that is it working properly again.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

Zebediah Figura  changed:

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            Product|Wine-staging                |Wine
          Component|-unknown                    |wineserver
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #14 from Zebediah Figura  ---
(In reply to mr.lumberg from comment #13)
> I purged 5.7 and reinstalled 5.6 from the cache about four hours ago, and I
> can confirm that is it working properly again.

Okay, marking as a duplicate then. Thanks for testing.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 49011 ***

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

[e-mail] changed:

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         Resolution|DUPLICATE                   |FIXED

--- Comment #15 from [e-mail] ---
(In reply to Zebediah Figura from comment #14)
> (In reply to mr.lumberg from comment #13)
> > I purged 5.7 and reinstalled 5.6 from the cache about four hours ago, and I
> > can confirm that is it working properly again.
>
> Okay, marking as a duplicate then. Thanks for testing.
>
> *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 49011 ***

Happy to help.

[Bug 49036] Recent updates to Staging break compatibility with VST instruments in LMMS

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https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49036

Zebediah Figura  changed:

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         Resolution|FIXED                       |DUPLICATE
             Status|RESOLVED                    |CLOSED

--- Comment #16 from Zebediah Figura  ---
Please don't change the resolution from DUPLICATE; fixed status will be tracked
at the corresponding bug.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 49011 ***